Poll of the Day > Is Master Chief still the only Spartan

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Blightzkrieg 09/18/24 9:52:42 PM #1:	My Halo lore is really out of date --- http://i.imgur.com/1XbPahR.png <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:982185194] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>My Halo lore is really out of date </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwollenColon 09/18/24 9:55:45 PM #2:	Nah this spartan could kick master chiefs dickhole inside out https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d83c6e72.jpg <cite>SwollenColon posted [p:982185218] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>Nah this spartan could kick master chiefs dickhole inside out https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d83c6e72.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josh 09/18/24 10:39:22 PM #3:	nah there's 116 more --- So I was standing still at a stationary store... <cite>josh posted [p:982185671] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>nah there's 116 more</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ConfusedTorchic 09/19/24 12:58:48 AM #4:	he was never the only spartan --- see my gundams here https://imgur.com/a/F7xKM5r updated 08/01/24; hg mighty strike freedom <cite>ConfusedTorchic posted [p:982186910] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>he was never the only spartan</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cruddy_horse 09/19/24 1:20:31 AM #5:	ConfusedTorchic posted... he was never the only spartan <cite>Cruddy_horse posted [p:982187032] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>ConfusedTorchic posted... </cite><quote>he was never the only spartan</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 09/19/24 2:39:52 AM #6:	ConfusedTorchic posted... he was never the only spartan Didn't all the others die --- http://i.imgur.com/1XbPahR.png <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:982187519] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>ConfusedTorchic posted... </cite><quote>he was never the only spartan</quote>Didn't all the others die </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 09/19/24 4:45:19 AM #7:	Spartans are just Space Marines but lamer --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:982187997] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>Spartans are just Space Marines but lamer</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/19/24 8:43:09 AM #8:	He hasn't been the last Spartan since 2003. Blightzkrieg posted... Didn't all the others die Yes. Except they keep retconning that. First it turned out that there was one left, who was just shot in the head and kept in suspended animation until she could be revived, so they considered her technically not counting as a living Spartan. Then it turned out a couple others survived. Then some more. Then even more. Then they introduced the idea of different tiers of Spartans, and implied it was only the Spartan-IIs who were mostly wiped out. Then Halo 4 just decided they could make new Spartans whenever they wanted (the Spartan-IVs), which pretty much ruined the "last of their kind" motif forever in favor of being able to introduce new badasses whenever they feel like it. They didn't even manage to kill off all the Spartans in Halo: Reach, which was their literal "kill them all" game. ~~Jun survives.~~ It's similar to how Star Wars keeps introducing new Jedi in spite of all of them supposedly having been killed off in the purge. Yoda's "The last of the Jedi you will be" line has basically morphed into "Well, except for the hundred or so who all went into hiding and never got caught, tee hee!" Can't even blame Disney for that one, though - they were doing that crap in the EU even before Disney bought the franchise. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:982189370] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>He hasn't been the last Spartan since 2003.<cite>Blightzkrieg posted...</cite><quote>Didn't all the others die </quote>Yes. Except they keep retconning that.First it turned out that there was one left, who was just shot in the head and kept in suspended animation until she could be revived, so they considered her technically not counting as a living Spartan. Then it turned out a couple others survived. Then some more. Then even more. Then they introduced the idea of different tiers of Spartans, and implied it was only the Spartan-IIs who were mostly wiped out.Then Halo 4 just decided they could make new Spartans whenever they wanted (the Spartan-IVs), which pretty much ruined the "last of their kind" motif forever in favor of being able to introduce new badasses whenever they feel like it.They didn't even manage to kill off all the Spartans in Halo: Reach, which was their literal "kill them all" game. Jun survives.It's similar to how Star Wars keeps introducing new Jedi in spite of all of them supposedly having been killed off in the purge. Yoda's "The last of the Jedi you will be" line has basically morphed into "Well, except for the hundred or so who all went into hiding and never got caught, tee hee!"Can't even blame Disney for that one, though - they were doing that crap in the EU even before Disney bought the franchise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/19/24 8:52:36 AM #9:	ParanoidObsessive posted... He hasn't been the last Spartan since 2003. Yes. Except they keep retconning that. First it turned out that there was one left, who was just shot in the head and kept in suspended animation until she could be revived, so they considered her technically not counting as a living Spartan. Then it turned out a couple others survived. Then some more. Then even more. Then they introduced the idea of different tiers of Spartans, and implied it was only the Spartan-IIs who were mostly wiped out. Then Halo 4 just decided they could make new Spartans whenever they wanted (the Spartan-IVs), which pretty much ruined the "last of their kind" motif forever in favor of being able to introduce new badasses whenever they feel like it. They didn't even manage to kill off all the Spartans in Halo: Reach, which was their literal "kill them all" game. ~~Jun survives.~~ It's similar to how Star Wars keeps introducing new Jedi in spite of all of them supposedly having been killed off in the purge. Yoda's "The last of the Jedi you will be" line has basically morphed into "Well, except for the hundred or so who all went into hiding and never got caught, tee hee!" Can't even blame Disney for that one, though - they were doing that crap in the EU even before Disney bought the franchise. Yeah, basically Spartans kept getting added into the lore as fanservice. Especially when 343 came along. I think it's assumed going by the current lore that there are at least 16 spartan IIs alive, but yeah... there are spartan IIIs and IVs although I think most of the spartan IIIs got wiped out? <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:982189473] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite><quote>He hasn't been the last Spartan since 2003.Yes. Except they keep retconning that.First it turned out that there was one left, who was just shot in the head and kept in suspended animation until she could be revived, so they considered her technically not counting as a living Spartan. Then it turned out a couple others survived. Then some more. Then even more. Then they introduced the idea of different tiers of Spartans, and implied it was only the Spartan-IIs who were mostly wiped out.Then Halo 4 just decided they could make new Spartans whenever they wanted (the Spartan-IVs), which pretty much ruined the "last of their kind" motif forever in favor of being able to introduce new badasses whenever they feel like it.They didn't even manage to kill off all the Spartans in Halo: Reach, which was their literal "kill them all" game. Jun survives.It's similar to how Star Wars keeps introducing new Jedi in spite of all of them supposedly having been killed off in the purge. Yoda's "The last of the Jedi you will be" line has basically morphed into "Well, except for the hundred or so who all went into hiding and never got caught, tee hee!"Can't even blame Disney for that one, though - they were doing that crap in the EU even before Disney bought the franchise.</quote>Yeah, basically Spartans kept getting added into the lore as fanservice. Especially when 343 came along. I think it's assumed going by the current lore that there are at least 16 spartan IIs alive, but yeah... there are spartan IIIs and IVs although I think most of the spartan IIIs got wiped out?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/19/24 9:50:24 AM #10:	OhhhJa posted... Yeah, basically Spartans kept getting added into the lore as fanservice. Especially when 343 came along. I think it's assumed going by the current lore that there are at least 16 spartan IIs alive, but yeah... there are spartan IIIs and IVs although I think most of the spartan IIIs got wiped out? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jt9dfr5utCfSPp2g8kc5IH8Y1xuQFyTjWo0YaQdEzLg/edit?pli=1 Reading a post from somewhere else (I'm not sure how accurate they are, but they sound a lot more informed on modern stuff than I am), apparently something like 300 Spartan-IIIs may still be alive. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:982190060] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite><quote>Yeah, basically Spartans kept getting added into the lore as fanservice. Especially when 343 came along. I think it's assumed going by the current lore that there are at least 16 spartan IIs alive, but yeah... there are spartan IIIs and IVs although I think most of the spartan IIIs got wiped out?</quote>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jt9dfr5utCfSPp2g8kc5IH8Y1xuQFyTjWo0YaQdEzLg/edit?pli=1Reading a post from somewhere else (I'm not sure how accurate they are, but they sound a lot more informed on modern stuff than I am), apparently something like 300 Spartan-IIIs may still be alive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ConfusedTorchic 09/19/24 11:12:56 AM #11:	they never retconned anything the games never said he was the last and the books have always made mention of other Spartans out there the first book was alongside the first game in 2001 shit, sgt johnson was a spartan 1 lol --- see my gundams here https://imgur.com/a/F7xKM5r updated 08/01/24; hg mighty strike freedom <cite>ConfusedTorchic posted [p:982190994] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>they never retconned anything the games never said he was the last and the books have always made mention of other Spartans out therethe first book was alongside the first game in 2001shit, sgt johnson was a spartan 1 lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/19/24 11:14:33 AM #12:	ConfusedTorchic posted... they never retconned anything the games never said he was the last and the books have always made mention of other Spartans out there the first book was alongside the first game in 2001 There definitely have been details retconned <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:982191022] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>ConfusedTorchic posted... </cite><quote>they never retconned anything the games never said he was the last and the books have always made mention of other Spartans out therethe first book was alongside the first game in 2001</quote>There definitely have been details retconned </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ConfusedTorchic 09/19/24 11:20:33 AM #13:	OhhhJa posted... There definitely have been details retconned https://www.halopedia.org/List_of_inconsistencies_in_the_Halo_series nothing that suggests chief being the only spartan was retconned out, since he was never the last --- see my gundams here https://imgur.com/a/F7xKM5r updated 08/01/24; hg mighty strike freedom <cite>ConfusedTorchic posted [p:982191094] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite><quote>There definitely have been details retconned</quote>https://www.halopedia.org/List_of_inconsistencies_in_the_Halo_seriesnothing that suggests chief being the only spartan was retconned out, since he was never the last </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/19/24 11:29:01 AM #14:	ConfusedTorchic posted... https://www.halopedia.org/List_of_inconsistencies_in_the_Halo_series nothing that suggests chief being the only spartan was retconned out, since he was never the last Oh yeah, not that in particular I don't believe <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:982191188] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>ConfusedTorchic posted... </cite><quote>https://www.halopedia.org/List_of_inconsistencies_in_the_Halo_seriesnothing that suggests chief being the only spartan was retconned out, since he was never the last</quote>Oh yeah, not that in particular I don't believe </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/19/24 11:29:53 AM #15:	But there have been cases of dead spartans being retconned back alive i think <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:982191196] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>But there have been cases of dead spartans being retconned back alive i think </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 09/19/24 1:14:04 PM #16:	A Spartan II has never died, theyre just MIA. --- im gay <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:982192685] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>A Spartan II has never died, theyre just MIA.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 09/19/24 3:51:48 PM #17:	I'm a Spartan! --- "I don't question our existence, I just question our modern needs" Pearl Jam - Garden My theme song - https://youtu.be/-PXIbVNfj3s <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:982194733] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>I'm a Spartan!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/20/24 12:42:00 AM #18:	ConfusedTorchic posted... shit, sgt johnson was a spartan 1 lol Funny you should mention that, because that was also a retcon. ConfusedTorchic posted... the games never said he was the last and the books have always made mention of other Spartans out there In the manual for Halo: CE, the "Story So Far" section explicitly says that all of the Spartans were recalled to Reach, it was attacked, and that Master Chief is the last surviving Spartan. In The Fall of Reach (the original version, not the later edited rerelease), it's pretty clearly indicated that all the other Spartans are dead, even if it's never explicitly said outright. Linda gets shot in the head and dies, and is literally described as being clinically dead (though John thinks to himself that if he can get her into cryo maybe she can be revived later). James gets spaced. The other Spartans are described as being "lost" after the Covenant overran their position, even if we never see them die "on screen" (which is what makes it easy to retcon later). And then the whole planet gets glassed. At which point Master Chief thinks to himself that he may be the last Spartan left alive. As far as he knows, ALL of the others are dead. Yes, the story was changed later... but that's literally what "retcon" means. It wasn't until First Strike (which came out shortly before Halo 2, and was supposed to be a bridge between the two games) that they started implying other Spartans survived. They revived Linda and had it turn out that Kelly and Fred had miraculously survived Reach. Then Ghosts of Onyx established that Kurt had faked his death, Cole Protocol introduced the Grey Team who were actually MIA and not just dead, Halo Wars introduced the Red Team (who were also actually MIA), and introducing the Spartan-IIIs just muddied the whole thing up (and the Spartan-IVs pretty much killed it entirely). --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:982201395] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote><cite>ConfusedTorchic posted...</cite><quote>shit, sgt johnson was a spartan 1 lol</quote>Funny you should mention that, because that was also a retcon.<cite>ConfusedTorchic posted...</cite><quote>the games never said he was the last and the books have always made mention of other Spartans out there</quote>In the manual for Halo: CE, the "Story So Far" section explicitly says that all of the Spartans were recalled to Reach, it was attacked, and that Master Chief is the last surviving Spartan. In The Fall of Reach (the original version, not the later edited rerelease), it's pretty clearly indicated that all the other Spartans are dead, even if it's never explicitly said outright. Linda gets shot in the head and dies, and is literally described as being clinically dead (though John thinks to himself that if he can get her into cryo maybe she can be revived later). James gets spaced. The other Spartans are described as being "lost" after the Covenant overran their position, even if we never see them die "on screen" (which is what makes it easy to retcon later). And then the whole planet gets glassed.At which point Master Chief thinks to himself that he may be the last Spartan left alive. As far as he knows, ALL of the others are dead.Yes, the story was changed later... but that's literally what "retcon" means.It wasn't until First Strike (which came out shortly before Halo 2, and was supposed to be a bridge between the two games) that they started implying other Spartans survived. They revived Linda and had it turn out that Kelly and Fred had miraculously survived Reach. Then Ghosts of Onyx established that Kurt had faked his death, Cole Protocol introduced the Grey Team who were actually MIA and not just dead, Halo Wars introduced the Red Team (who were also actually MIA), and introducing the Spartan-IIIs just muddied the whole thing up (and the Spartan-IVs pretty much killed it entirely).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ConfusedTorchic 09/20/24 10:20:37 AM #19:	ParanoidObsessive posted... In the manual for Halo: CE, the "Story So Far" section explicitly says that all of the Spartans were recalled to Reach, it was attacked, and that Master Chief is the last surviving Spartan. One ship, the Pillar of Autumn, escapes with the last SPARTAN-II specifically spartan 2's, and no, it's not a retcon that he wasn't the last. every other one was either confirmed dead, or plain missing in action and presumed dead. and not many people know johnson is a spartan 1, his file claims he just has borens syndrome, which the audience knows is just a coverup to explain the medical anomalies in s1 soldiers. --- see my gundams here https://imgur.com/a/F7xKM5r updated 08/01/24; hg mighty strike freedom <cite>ConfusedTorchic posted [p:982205079] in Is Master ... [t:80849467]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite><quote>In the manual for Halo: CE, the "Story So Far" section explicitly says that all of the Spartans were recalled to Reach, it was attacked, and that Master Chief is the last surviving Spartan.</quote><quote>One ship, the Pillar of Autumn, escapes with the last SPARTAN-II</quote>specifically spartan 2's, and no, it's not a retcon that he wasn't the last. every other one was either confirmed dead, or plain missing in action and presumed dead. and not many people know johnson is a spartan 1, his file claims he just has borens syndrome, which the audience knows is just a coverup to explain the medical anomalies in s1 soldiers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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