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WingsOfGood 09/20/24 9:11:00 PM #1: |
Will we one day get pretentious game creative leads who look down on other games and say they aren't gaming like how we have pretentious directors say this is not cinema"? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GrandConjuraton 09/20/24 9:12:08 PM #2: |
We already have average players who say things like Candy Crush players aren't gamers. It's only a matter of time. --- Upon the water, the song of the birds still echo silent. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJKirby 09/20/24 9:12:32 PM #3: |
we have pretentious gamers who think there's "non-games" so yeah --- Not changing this signature until Beyond Good and Evil 2 is in my hand. August 25th, 2010. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 09/20/24 9:12:34 PM #4: |
Don't we already? --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 09/20/24 9:13:08 PM #5: |
WingsOfGood posted... Will we one day get pretentious game creative leads who look down on other games and say they aren't gaming like how we have pretentious directors say this is not cinema"?Yes one day Hideo Kojima will declare that "lesser" games than his are not real games. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Star Trek Prodigy is top tier Star Trek. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 09/20/24 9:15:15 PM #6: |
creativerealms posted... Yes one day Hideo Kojima will declare that "lesser" games than his are not real games. Kojima is based though ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wesastro911 09/20/24 9:15:52 PM #7: |
I mean incremental/idle games are looked down in disdain pretty much. Walking sims too ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthEnvoy 09/20/24 9:18:18 PM #8: |
We've had people claiming CoD/Madden and mobile games aren't real games since forever --- The artist formerly known as BipBapBam. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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W_S_C_M 09/20/24 9:37:03 PM #9: |
Visual novels --- Peacefully non-compliant/non-conformist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DodogamaRayBrst 09/20/24 9:38:08 PM #10: |
The guy who makes Zelda games already does this towards his older Zelda games. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kitt 09/20/24 9:44:09 PM #11: |
We've already had pretentious, up-their-own-ass game devs. See: Jonathan Blow and Phil Fish. Now look at their take on Japanese games... --- What is up, my sister!? https://m.imgur.com/pmc9XsI https://m.imgur.com/hfzvdPe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 09/20/24 9:48:17 PM #12: |
SSJKirby posted... we have pretentious gamers who think there's "non-games" so yeah We've had something of a reverse of that, where it was popular to call certain types of games "pretentious non-games" or "walking simulators". --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 09/20/24 9:48:35 PM #13: |
WingsOfGood posted... Kojima is based though Kojima's a clown who crawled up his own ass 20 years ago. On topic, of course. I'm sure at some point we'll have some absurd genre designation like there's "literary fiction" in books. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 09/20/24 9:50:07 PM #14: |
Guide posted... We've had something of a reverse of that, where it was popular to call certain types of games "pretentious non-games" or "walking simulators". I've maintained for years that "walking simulator" is a term only used by dumbasses. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nitro378 09/20/24 9:52:06 PM #15: |
vigorm0rtis posted... I've maintained for years that "walking simulator" is a term only used by dumbasses. IMO it's an accurate description of a certain type of game. --- Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 09/20/24 9:53:40 PM #16: |
I think it's fine to not like that sort of genre, though I also think most would be missing out by not giving at least some of them a try. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ultimate_reaver 09/20/24 9:53:54 PM #17: |
Walking simulators are definitely a thing that exist, the thing is that they are not automatically a bad thing --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nitro378 09/20/24 9:54:23 PM #18: |
ultimate_reaver posted... Walking simulators are definitely a thing that exist, the thing is that they are not automatically a bad thing They aren't, but they need a good pitch. --- Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 09/20/24 9:57:24 PM #19: |
Nitro378 posted... IMO it's an accurate description of a certain type of game. It's not. There's a game on steam where you actually simulate walking. Putting one foot in front of the other, that sort of thing-- you know, what simulators actually do. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordFarquad1312 09/20/24 10:01:02 PM #21: |
We already have shitty ass things that try too hard to be movies and fail miserably. --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssb_yunglink2 09/20/24 10:04:37 PM #22: |
vigorm0rtis posted... It's not. There's a game on steam where you actually simulate walking. Putting one foot in front of the other, that sort of thing-- you know, what simulators actually do.I mean this is just a semantics argument now. You know exactly what is meant by walking simulator. There are many games where the only real gameplay is walking around the world youre in. Would you rather narration simulator? --- Hee Ho ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 09/20/24 10:14:44 PM #23: |
I still see people say dumb shit like calling the modern God of War games movie games derisively --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 09/20/24 10:15:44 PM #24: |
The term "casuals" has been around for a long time, so... --- he/him/his ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 09/20/24 10:59:09 PM #25: |
vigorm0rtis posted... Kojima's a clown you didn't..... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 09/20/24 11:41:17 PM #26: |
Nitro378 posted... IMO it's an accurate description of a certain type of game.Any game that allows you to control a character that walks. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Star Trek Prodigy is top tier Star Trek. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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action52 09/20/24 11:42:39 PM #27: |
vigorm0rtis posted... Kojima's a clown who crawled up his own ass 20 years ago.In some ways, yes, but I don't think he gets all gatekeeper about what is or isn't a game. He likes lots of stupid shit, and I don't think he's anti mainstream or anything like that. He just wants to make weird pretentious shit because he likes it. --- man - noun. A miserable pile of secrets. EXAMPLE: What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets. But enough talk, HAVE AT YOU! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RasterGraphic 09/21/24 12:02:59 AM #28: |
WingsOfGood posted... Will we one day get pretentious game creative leads who look down on other games and say they aren't gaming like how we have pretentious directors say this is not cinema"? I'm actually pretty guilty of that myself tbh. I'm trying to be better about it, because I do sincerely feel "fun is subjective" and that devs should make the games they want ... but it's still hard for me to not see certain practices as a perversion. --- "Well, thanks to the Internet, I'm now bored with sex." - Philip J. Fry ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 09/21/24 9:11:29 AM #29: |
Note that I like Hideo Kojima and think all his games are great. But he does have pretentious air about him. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Star Trek Prodigy is top tier Star Trek. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 09/21/24 9:14:28 AM #30: |
creativerealms posted... Note that I like Hideo Kojima and think all his games are great. But he does have pretentious air about him. He is actually a fan of others. Like I don't recall him ever bashing other games but he has promoted several. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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action52 09/21/24 10:00:54 AM #31: |
WingsOfGood posted... He is actually a fan of others. Like I don't recall him ever bashing other games but he has promoted several.Exactly. He can be very pretentious but I've never seen him be a hater or an elitist. He mostly just likes gushing about what he likes. --- man - noun. A miserable pile of secrets. EXAMPLE: What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets. But enough talk, HAVE AT YOU! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DuuuDe14 09/21/24 10:04:23 AM #32: |
What are some examples of good mobile games? --- The Official Sons of Sparda of all GameFAQS boards. June 10, 2018. The day Dante returned to us. Do what you want, just don't expect to get paid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PBusted 09/22/24 10:37:33 AM #33: |
DuuuDe14 posted... What are some examples of good mobile games? Not sure I'd call them good but Alphadia is a fully fledged game that eventually got console releases. Sonic Origins as well. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeggetaX 09/22/24 10:39:05 AM #34: |
Yeah gatekeeping has always been a thing --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 09/22/24 10:40:12 AM #35: |
People have been doing that already, though I guess not to the extent of game developers saying those things. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mad-Dogg 09/22/24 10:58:21 AM #36: |
Kitt posted... We've already had pretentious, up-their-own-ass game devs. See: Jonathan Blow and Phil Fish.Came into this topic to post this, lol. That one video where dude look like he was about to ugly cry in a dark room just because soulja boy was cracking up will forever be great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWqnz-7iQbY --- GTag:MadDogg730 PSN:lMadDogg NNID:xMadDoggx NS friend code:5313-0564-0819 Go buy cyber shadow like right now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YoungMutual 09/22/24 11:06:27 AM #37: |
TheGoldenEel posted... I still see people say dumb shit like calling the modern God of War games movie games derisivelyuhhh they ARE movie games. You can like them but they are what they are --- YoungMutual ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeggetaX 09/22/24 11:13:28 AM #38: |
YoungMutual posted... uhhh they ARE movie games. You can like them but they are what they areAgreed. Also calling them movie games isn't calling them not games --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boomgetchopped3 09/22/24 11:14:32 AM #39: |
Im already like this with a lot of games. Stuff like Ubisoft sequels etc --- It's literally the same thing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 09/22/24 11:38:03 AM #40: |
VeggetaX posted... Agreed. Also calling them movie games isn't calling them not gamesYeah, they present as a movie with their storytelling but they are still very much games and have a significant amount of gameplay. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nemu 09/22/24 11:52:26 AM #41: |
Gaming/gamer has no real set definition, so there can be some dumb attempts at super narrowing it down. But making it too broad definitely makes it a worthless term if you're trying to do something like calculate statistics. You need to have a firm definition set in cases like that for it to have any validity. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kitt 09/22/24 11:51:01 PM #42: |
Mad-Dogg posted... Came into this topic to post this, lol. That one video where dude look like he was about to ugly cry in a dark room just because soulja boy was cracking up will forever be great.I love that video lol --- What is up, my sister!? https://m.imgur.com/pmc9XsI https://m.imgur.com/hfzvdPe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirtBasedSoap 09/22/24 11:58:07 PM #43: |
Druckmann!!!!! --- im gay ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nitro378 09/23/24 12:00:12 AM #44: |
vigorm0rtis posted... It's not. There's a game on steam where you actually simulate walking. Putting one foot in front of the other, that sort of thing-- you know, what simulators actually do. creativerealms posted... Any game that allows you to control a character that walks. Yes the pedantry is very impressive. --- Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 09/23/24 12:02:07 AM #45: |
YoungMutual posted... uhhh they ARE movie games. You can like them but they are what they arethe implication with calling games movie games (as an insult) is that they don't have solid gameplay and/or are basically walking simulators between cutscenes which is very much not true about God of War/Ragnarok tbh the criticism gets levied at a lot of modern games that deign to have good production values in their cutscenes even if they have engaging gameplay --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Snip-N-Snails 09/23/24 2:02:01 PM #46: |
Kitt posted... We've already had pretentious, up-their-own-ass game devs. See: Jonathan Blow and Phil Fish.Those two turning out to be anti-vaxxer chuds were some of the most pikachu shocked face revelations I learned --- #BLM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DodogamaRayBrst 09/23/24 2:07:44 PM #47: |
TheGoldenEel posted... the implication with calling games movie games (as an insult) is that they don't have solid gameplay and/or are basically walking simulators between cutscenes...No, that tracks. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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action52 09/23/24 4:57:19 PM #48: |
DodogamaRayBrst posted... ...No, that tracks.having gameplay you don't like =/= having no gameplay --- man - noun. A miserable pile of secrets. EXAMPLE: What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets. But enough talk, HAVE AT YOU! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DodogamaRayBrst 09/23/24 5:25:40 PM #49: |
I don't define a "movie" game as having no gameplay, rather that its gameplay is compromised for the sake of cinematic qualities. God of War absolutely is that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 09/23/24 7:21:14 PM #50: |
DodogamaRayBrst posted... I don't define a "movie" game as having no gameplay, rather that its gameplay is compromised for the sake of cinematic qualities.No it definitely is not lmfao, did you even play them the modern god of war games are closer to modern Legend of Zelda games than BotW/TotK good production values and good gameplay are not mutually exclusivethis is exactly the kind of post I was calling out with my original post imo god of war Ragnarok has 70 bosses lol compromised for the sake of cinematic qualities lmfao --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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