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Zikten 10/02/24 12:08:13 AM #2: |
It's out? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 10/02/24 12:09:08 AM #3: |
Why is it bad? --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turtlemayor333 10/02/24 12:10:29 AM #4: |
Zaslav cooking up another stinker? Shocking --- http://i.imgur.com/WWk7D.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hE7v5GL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sY9YLKe.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9e67vqt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mistere_Man 10/02/24 12:11:40 AM #5: |
Honestly it looked bad imo. --- Water+Fall=Radiation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 10/02/24 12:12:17 AM #6: |
I hear they don't fully commit to it being a musical. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Necronmon 10/02/24 12:12:49 AM #7: |
Why is it bad? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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the_crow13 10/02/24 12:14:47 AM #8: |
Half musical? Sounds like must watch --- You can have results or excuses. Not both. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YoshiMitsurugi 10/02/24 12:15:09 AM #9: |
Just wait until everyone sees the ending. Yikes! --- Born in blood. The Hurley Bird gets the worm. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 10/02/24 12:16:37 AM #10: |
Necronmon posted...
oof ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 10/02/24 12:18:26 AM #11: |
I guess I'll just pretend the first movie was a standalone then if it's not even bothering trying to be consistent with "Joker"'s character devolvement. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aloc 10/02/24 12:20:23 AM #12: |
--- Aloc will now post in PG or try ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Necronmon 10/02/24 12:21:17 AM #13: |
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Umbreon 10/02/24 12:21:31 AM #14: |
Necronmon posted...
Yeah that sounds like quite the mess. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 10/02/24 12:24:38 AM #15: |
Not like the first was any good either --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GrandConjuraton 10/02/24 12:25:00 AM #16: |
Smashingpmkns posted... Not like the first was any good eitherTrolling/10 --- Travel now; where they can't let you down, where you can't fail them now. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SomeLikeItHoth 10/02/24 12:28:06 AM #17: |
GrandConjuraton posted... Trolling/10It's a valid opinion. Joker took one of the greatest comic book villains of all time and made him a product of bullying who couldn't take it anymore, rather than a born psychopath who inherently loves chaos like he should be. --- FAM FOREVER | https://iili.io/HSJO4Uv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GrandConjuraton 10/02/24 12:29:23 AM #18: |
SomeLikeItHoth posted... It's a valid opinion. Joker took one of the greatest comic book villains of all time and made him a product of bullying who couldn't take it anymore, rather than a born psychopath who inherently loves chaos like he should be.Yeah, it made him a real character. Not a generic "evil is my entire being" villain. So horrible. --- Travel now; where they can't let you down, where you can't fail them now. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 10/02/24 12:32:38 AM #19: |
GrandConjuraton posted... Yeah, it made him a real character. Not a generic "evil is my entire being" villain. So horrible.I mean why not just make a new character then? Joker is like the biggest most established supervillain. Why take him and then make him a "real character" That to me just is a confession that your real character is so poor and you have no confidence in him that you have to use The Joker as a crutch. There's a reason why they never made a James Bond movie about James Bond having a crisis of faith in Catholicism after losing his window cleaning job. Because that's not James Bond, that's some random character you just made up --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 10/02/24 12:35:28 AM #20: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted... There's a reason why they never made a James Bond movie about James Bond having a crisis of faith in Catholicism after losing his window cleaning job. Yeah, it's like making Batman a deranged killer. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kradek 10/02/24 3:42:33 AM #22: |
2 Furious --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AbstraktProfSC2 10/02/24 5:02:35 AM #23: |
SomeLikeItHoth posted... It's a valid opinion. Joker took one of the greatest comic book villains of all time and made him a product of bullying who couldn't take it anymore, rather than a born psychopath who inherently loves chaos like he should be.you only watch the movies or somethin? theres a few different tellings of The Joker character but definitely no certain origin story. thats a large part of the appeal he was a failed comedian in The Killing Joke. it differs from The Joker movie but things built up for him to become Joker. he didnt "inherently love chaos" --- Talk about backseat fishing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZevLoveDOOM 10/02/24 5:09:43 AM #24: |
well i still wanna see it not only cause i saw the first but also im curious to see Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glob 10/02/24 5:29:01 AM #25: |
GrandConjuraton posted... Trolling/10 I dont think they are. I didnt mind the first one but its very much a film that has no reason to exist. Without the DC tie in it would more likely than not have been largely ignored, but then the DC tie in seems forced and unnecessary and doesnt really add anything, so the whole thing feels a bit pointless. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjnelson 10/02/24 6:26:13 AM #26: |
I didn't like the first one. It was like three hours (or however long) of pre-Joker getting swirlies, noogies, wet willies, and stuffed in lockers, followed by five minutes of Jokerdom. I appreciate back story, establishing a character, and trying to make him understandable, but I'd like to move on beyond establishing back story eventually, preferably sooner than the end. Smoking forty cartons a day isn't setting up a strong Joker, either. He'll eventually spar with Batman from a mobility scooter with an oxygen tank. --- I'm not here for friends. I'm here for the truth to the best of my knowledge of it, even if it's not what people want to hear. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hmnut7 10/02/24 6:40:18 AM #27: |
pjnelson posted... I didn't like the first one. It was like three hours (or however long) of pre-Joker getting swirlies, noogies, wet willies, and stuffed in lockers, followed by five minutes of Jokerdom. I appreciate back story, establishing a character, and trying to make him understandable, but I'd like to move on beyond establishing back story eventually, preferably sooner than the end. Smoking forty cartons a day isn't setting up a strong Joker, either. He'll eventually spar with Batman from a mobility scooter with an oxygen tank.Sort of agree with. It was the story about a sad mans fall from grace. But it was not about how a man because "The supervillain" the Joker. The Joker once beat a child to death with a crowbar, he paralyzed a woman to make a point, he routinely blows up buildings with innocent people inside, he is a criminal mastermind who can stay one step ahead of police, the commissioner and the world's greatest detective. The Joker isn't just some sad/angry/crazy guy with a gun. Arthur never becomes "the Joker" he just becomes more violent Arthur. I have no interest in seeing this film, at least not in theater. I can wait for streaming, and probably not even then. --- Starfire: "They are too numerous to fight. What shall we do?" Robin: "Fight anyway!" (pb) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DnDer 10/02/24 6:55:07 AM #28: |
pjnelson posted... I didn't like the first one. It was like three hours (or however long) of pre-Joker getting swirlies, noogies, wet willies, and stuffed in lockers, followed by five minutes of Jokerdom. Wait until you watch The Cherry Orchard, Rosemary's Baby, Harvey, Dr. Strangelove, Waiting for Guffman/Godot, Searching for Bobby Fischer, or Saving Private Ryan. You're going to be so pissed at all these absolutely terrible films and plays. It will be unbelievable how bad the trash is that they bait and switch you with. You'll just never believe or overcome it. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DnDer 10/02/24 6:58:45 AM #29: |
hmnut7 posted... Arthur never becomes "the Joker" he just becomes more violent Arthur. I think he does, because that's kind of the point of at least the most famous iteration of the Joker. We're all him. We "live in a society." And we're all just one bad day away from becoming him. And that's Arthur. That Joker. That's the cultural undercurrent that can turn a man into violence and violence into a movement. The first film worked for me when viewed through that lens, anyway. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 10/02/24 6:59:58 AM #30: |
i dont like the movie or its messaging but a different take on a character is perfectly valid --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 10/02/24 7:01:09 AM #31: |
DnDer posted... I think he does, because that's kind of the point of at least the most famous iteration of the Joker. We're all him. We "live in a society." And we're all just one bad day away from becoming him. the entire point of that monologue was that he is WRONG about 1 bad day being all it takes to make you like him its him making excuses for his own twisted actions --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kitt 10/02/24 7:03:00 AM #32: |
Smashingpmkns posted... Not like the first was any good either --- What is up, my sister!? https://m.imgur.com/pmc9XsI https://m.imgur.com/hfzvdPe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShadowMan033 10/02/24 7:09:17 AM #33: |
The description in that spoiler tag actually makes it sound p decent not gonna lie --- LSU Tigers - 2023 National Champions 1991, 1993, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2009, 2023 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 10/02/24 7:09:58 AM #34: |
The first one really didn't need a sequel --- See profile pic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AbstraktProfSC2 10/02/24 8:32:54 AM #35: |
hmnut7 posted... Sort of agree with. Joker isnt always Arthur Fleck though...did you completely miss the ending to the first movie? Albert King, Jack Napier, Jack White etc. theres no THE Joker Joker has almost always been multiple people --- Talk about backseat fishing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 10/02/24 10:13:05 AM #37: |
DnDer posted... I think he does, because that's kind of the point of at least the most famous iteration of the Joker. We're all him. We "live in a society." And we're all just one bad day away from becoming him. Except Batman (or rather Commissioner Gordon) showed him he was wrong. He gave Gordon the worst day of his life, and he still wanted Joker taken in "by the book." That "one bad day" was just Joker trying to justify his descent into madness to himself and was ultimately proven wrong. It was always his own fault. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZevLoveDOOM 10/02/24 10:14:36 AM #38: |
like others said, this movie could have been fine on its own. there was no need for a sequel... but now that we reached this point, i might as well watch it. lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY 10/02/24 10:14:43 AM #39: |
It looked terrible for the trailers so I am not at all surprised the actual movie sucked big time. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkninja42 10/02/24 10:29:25 AM #40: |
I read about the ending and it seems semi interesting, (if not probably very polarizing), but not enough to watch the rest of the film. But I also hated the first one and would've never watched this anyway --- I'm far from high end, I just know what suits me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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saspa 10/02/24 11:01:28 AM #41: |
GrandConjuraton posted... Yeah, it made him a real character https://youtu.be/SrJhGi1vUjo?t=273 --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZevLoveDOOM 10/02/24 11:16:32 AM #42: |
oh yeah, and as for the first movie, i liked it but didnt love it like most dudes did. heck i remember a lot of dudes pissed that Parasite won Oscar for best movie instead of this. personally tho, i felt like that movie deserved it way more! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 10/02/24 11:28:26 AM #43: |
SomeLikeItHoth posted... It's a valid opinion. Joker took one of the greatest comic book villains of all time and made him a product of bullying who couldn't take it anymore, rather than a born psychopath who inherently loves chaos like he should be. Someone never read The Killing Joke --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueTigerLion 10/02/24 11:30:14 AM #44: |
I hadn't been looking at Rotten Tomato scores apparently the first Joker movie is at 69%. Interesting number but people loved that one. 2nd one at 58%. Would be interesting to see if others say what TC said and it bad or it has a positive audience score. --- Hey now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 10/02/24 11:30:19 AM #45: |
I liked the moments of ambiguity in the first film that made you question what really happened, or whether what really happened even mattered. turning it into yet another "universe" is dumb. Should have been left as a standalone character examination. and who the fuck cares if it's canon to the comics or not? --- Jump! Jump! Slide! Slide! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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C_Pain 10/02/24 11:30:24 AM #46: |
Eh, the first one has a lot of haters despite being a masterpiece, so I'll reserve judgement. --- How quaint. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 10/02/24 11:40:18 AM #47: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... Someone never read The Killing Joke yea YOU as the moral of the killing joke is that one bad day DOESNT turn a person evil joker is just a monster and uses 1 bad day as an excuse for his actions thats literally stated in the comic and the awful animated film and the live action the dark knight which pulled from that story and virtually every other time its every come up in anything batman always throws it back in his face --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DnDer 10/02/24 11:55:35 AM #48: |
AceMos posted... batman always throws it back in his face And I think Batman might be kind of wrong. Gordon is the exception that proves (tests) the rule. Exception. And Batman (of all people) is a bit naive to think it couldn't happen to someone more normal and less stalwart than, say, the one lone, good cop in a city of bad cops. I bet, in the DC universe, if you took some random kid and gave him the worst day ever--say, killed his parents in front of him--it would more than likely shatter his psyche so bad he channels that broken energy into a tour de force of excessive force across his home town. At a minimum. With the only distinguishing feature being which direction (or which targets) you pointed him at. Is everyone one bad day away? Nah. But enough of them that Joker isn't really that off base, and Batman throws it in Joker's face to keep himself from realizing what a knifes edge he walks every night he goes out. A spicy take, I know, but I don't think it's that wild. Just a little spicy. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jerry_Hellyeah 10/02/24 12:05:19 PM #49: |
Lady Gaga playing Harley Quinn in a Batman-less Batman movie musical is an absolute worst-case scenario for me. --- This is a cool sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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luigi33 10/02/24 12:05:33 PM #50: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted... Joker is like the biggest most established supervillain. Why take him and then make him a "real character"Exactly. Its like trying to make Frieza a "normal" character. --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DnDer 10/02/24 12:13:36 PM #51: |
Jerry_Hellyeah posted... Lady Gaga playing Harley Quinn in a Batman-less Batman movie musical is an absolute worst-case scenario for me. What about Lady Gaga would make a movie bad out of the gate like that? Her Oscar-nominated acting chops, or her Oscar-nominated-and-winning music chops? --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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