Current Events > Kamala Harris says we should legalize weed.

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ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Do you want cigarettes and alcohol to be illegal as well

I'd be fine with cigarettes being illegal. All cigarettes do is calm you down a little bit, but make the inside of you look like shit.... sometimes the outside as well. I've seen 2 pack a day smokers who were in their 30s look like they were in their 50s. Alcohol has too many uses, so it should never be illegal.

UnfairRepresent posted...

It's a little rich given how many people she put behind bars for it but hey-ho.

if she locked someone up for it and now thinks it should be legal I call that a win. Hopefully she also wants to do something about the people locked up.

I dont know if she agreed with the law or not when she was prosecuting it, but even if she agreed with it back then, changing your mind is not hypocrisy.

The people kamala locked up for minor pot offenses rn:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e96aa6b2.jpg

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No

You're just vomiting up misinformed shit you've heard randomly?

You literally asked for it?

I should have put you on ignore a long time ago.

lol ok?

I mean if it's misinformed you should have no problem countering it rather than just insulting me and getting angry for talking to you.

Besides which most of that is not misinformed. People just sleep on weed causing psychosis and it pisses me off.

Most of those points are valid they're just not a strong enough argument to overturn body autonomy for me. I have a big libertarian streak in me. I don't think it's the governments job to determine what you're allowed to do with your own body. This defacto includes drugs legalization. At least for adults.

Lordgold666 posted...

The people kamala locked up for minor pot offenses rn:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e96aa6b2.jpg

To be fair she didn't create the laws.

UnfairRepresent posted...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/K0_VIJLHmmo

It's a little rich given how many people she put behind bars for it but hey-ho.

Enforcing the law and agreeing with it are two different things.

People criticize her for doing her job. Was she supposed to not do her job?

Lordgold666 posted...

The people kamala locked up for minor pot offenses rn:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e96aa6b2.jpg

This is the same argument of people saying there should be no student loan forgiveness because they paid off their loans without loan forgiveness.

bobbycorwin posted...

This is the same argument of people saying there should be no student loan forgiveness because they paid off their loans without loan forgiveness.

I don't think the dudes who were locked up for pot want other people to be locked up for pot.

It's more just "OH NOW YOU SAY THAT!?"

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Do you want cigarettes and alcohol to be illegal as well

No. People should be free to make their own choices. Its just that my friend who zi was a caretaker for would be alive today if she never picked up a cigarette.. It took my aunt and is taking my mother (not that I care). No one should suffer by something thats preventable. I will do anything in my power to educate people what it does. Same for smoking weed.

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It's a luxury, use the taxes to fund awareness and treatment for health issues from drugs and other diseases.

vycebrand2 posted...

No. People should be free to make their own choices. Its just that my friend who zi was a caretaker for would be alive today if she never picked up a cigarette.. It took my aunt and is taking my mother (not that I care). No one should suffer by something thats preventable. I will do anything in my power to educate people what it does. Same for smoking weed.

i understand wanting to educate people of the dangers of smoking cigs. Why do you hesitate to want weed legalized if youre okay with people making their own choices even if you disagree with them?

Lordgold666 posted...

The people kamala locked up for minor pot offenses rn:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e96aa6b2.jpg

Yes during her law career she locked up drug offenders. It's called doing her job. What's more important is what she does now. Preventing things like that from happening again for instance.

Seems like you're just being a devil's advocate, so I'm not directing any of this at you personally.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Gateway drug to crime or more severe drugs

This myth has been thoroughly debunked over the years. Alcohol has been proven to have much more of a "gateway" effect (which in my mind is already dubious), and it's highly regulated but perfectly legal.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Can cause psychosis and have serious severe effects on people's mental health without any prior warning

In very rare cases, certainly no more of an effect than other legal, regulated factors.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Is actually addictive despite what potheads claim

Anything can be "addictive." The dangers associated from being addicted to other drugs, like accidental overdose or debilitating withdrawal symptoms, do not exist for THC. Regular use is very safe for most people, and for those people who do abuse it it's relatively easy get clean.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Research is still inconclusive and limited

Because of it's Schedule 1 status (no medicinal purpose) for years and years. This was changed very recently IIRC.

UnfairRepresent posted...

It will negatively effect American culture and people's lives/health

It's already extremely widely used, and we have data from states that have legalized it for years. I don't see this being a real problem.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Something something space laser the Jews SJW woke mind virus communist

You got me there, nothing I can say will refute this belief.

Legalization/decriminalization has worked really well all over the country. It's beyond time to do it at a federal level.

creativerealms posted...

Yes during her law career she locked up drug offenders. It's called doing her job. What's more important is what she does now. Preventing things like that from happening again for instance.

She should still address this criticism to get ahead of it (if she hasn't already, I don't know).

UnfairRepresent posted...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/K0_VIJLHmmo

It's a little rich given how many people she put behind bars for it but hey-ho.

Better late than never; and its been apparent for a while that her stance on weed isnt what it used to be. Good on her.

ModernPost posted...

She should still address this criticism to get ahead of it (if she hasn't already, I don't know).

I think the official Harris stance is that she never pursued prosecution of weed smokers and prosecuted their crimes as misdemeanors when they could have been felonies.

But politicians never admit they were wrong so that's the best we're gonna get.

This is embarrassing

daftpunk_mk5 posted...

She's only saying that cause she's slipping in the polls. And if she's elected she's gonna sit on it for 4 years till it's re-election time

Chud says chud things.

Also, vycebrand2 is a huge chud who blocks people who call them out, FWIW.

mybbqrules posted...

Also, vycebrand2 is a huge chud who blocks people who call them out, FWIW.

Been seeing that a lot lately

Election has brought out the worst in people

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

i understand wanting to educate people of the dangers of smoking cigs. Why do you hesitate to want weed legalized if youre okay with people making their own choices even if you disagree with them?

Never said I did. It applies to all. You smoke it you should know the conquenses of doing so. I would like to know long term effects on the brain from other sources. Nothing is ever free of conquenses. My friend partaked. She had a abnormal brain. She had that because of a fall from a horse. She also was on Lorazepam. I want to see if a combo of those 3 would give her the delusions she had early in my stay with her. It's not unreasonable to ask this. Before we start opening the gates lets look into this.

Its completely absurd that marijuana was ever illegal to begin with. It was about racism the entire time and still is. To support people being legally penalized for marijuana is the opposite of modern. The VAST majority of the population wants it legal.

Also, I sure the fuck hope shes planning on doing something to force marijuana off the drug test panels. Nobody in the workforce OR the court system should be allowed to test someone for marijuana because its discrimination. In order to do this, we need to abolish or otherwise drastically restructure these fucking insurance companies who demand that every worker piss in a cup.

xsdarknesssx posted...

Why not, they are going to tax the hell out of it when the fed eventually does so it is practically a win win.

That's my thought as well. Colorado was the pilot, and at this point the tax revenue of every state that has legalized it is growing. It's a win win for job creation and opening a whole new revenue stream in the business sector.

Plus we could do with more people chilling the fuck out.

Payzmaykr posted...

Nobody in the workforce OR the court system should be allowed to test someone for marijuana because its discrimination.

IMO - testing "is this person under the influence right now" (or a reasonable proxy, such as a test that detects use within the last 3-5 hours or so) is acceptable; there are genuine safety reasons to have that. The kinds of tests that show "has this person been in the general vicinity of cannabis at any time in the last month" need to fuck right off though.

They already did in many places i thought?

did she really lock people up for it

lawyers never change

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I don't think they have yet; but that doesn't mean that laws can't be written with the future possibility of such in mind. Could be pretty generalized - "Drug tests are only permitted if they detect (a) current levels of intoxication, or (b) use within a prior period roughly consistent with the duration for which the drug is expected to impair". Obviously with better legalese than mine. And also likely would need to be some concentration in blood / breath / etc used as a proxy, much like how breath / blood alcohol content is used as a proxy for intoxication in drink drive. Yeah, I'm not explaining this well, my bad.

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I haven't personally encountered such cases so I'm not too sure; although I'd think drunkenness is a bit more noticable than cannabis influence. I'm not personally aware of companies breath-testing employees other than when actively suspected of being drunk, but I wouldn't have an issue with it - again, as long as it's detecting current use, not "had a few drinks a couple of nights ago" (which I don't think can be detected for alcohol anyway?).

LonelyStoner posted...

I very much prefer dispensaries over the prohibition bs. You know what youre getting, youre in a safe location, not dealing with weird dealers, and it isnt a bag of seeds and stems.

I no longer have to place a text at 5, ask 2 hours later whats up because of no response, yeah man i gotchu how about 8? 8 comes and goes with no word, so at around 8:45 I ask whats up. Ohhh sorry man fjhkowp;jwea igotchu

at 12:47AM I meet up with guy. I get a baggie of undetermined stuff that costs way more than it should.

yeah, the second I got my medical card I've never even looked back. This only happened with one guy a few times, but it has me scarred for life.

It's legal here already in Ohio, just need to federally legalize it

I love this debate on weed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyMhZhwe3gc

"I wrote a book and the media refused to talk about it."
"Ok so let's talk about your book."
"I'm LEAVING!"

There are far, far more important issues at hand than fucking weed, but whatever gets the votes, eh?

UnfairRepresent posted...

I love this debate on weed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyMhZhwe3gc

"I wrote a book and the media refused to talk about it."
"Ok so let's talk about your book."
"I'm LEAVING!"

I liked him more when he was called CosmicSkeptic, before he went to university and suddenly transformed into a pretentious douche. Not that anyone asked or cares.

El_Marsh posted...

There are far, far more important issues at hand than fucking weed, but whatever gets the votes, eh?

Sure, but its still the right move and a small right move is better than no right moves.

El_Marsh posted...

There are far, far more important issues at hand than fucking weed, but whatever gets the votes, eh?

Isn't it unfortunate that Kamala chose weed for literally the only issue she was allowed to talk about before the election? If only they were capable of talking about more than one issue, but alas.

Sure. I don't use it, but if someone else does that's their business.

HashtagSEP posted...

Isn't it unfortunate that Kamala chose weed for literally the only issue she was allowed to talk about before the election? If only they were capable of talking about more than one issue, but alas.

You hear people use this deflection all the time.

Especially with gay rights.

"PeopLE ArE DYinG And YOu WaNT To TalK ABouT GAy MArrAGIE!"

The implication being that government is ineffective because they simply only have enough time to deal with 1 or 2 or maybe 3 at a stretch issues.

Imagine your car has been stolen, you inform the police and they say "PEOPLE ARE BEING MURDERED AND YOU'RE CALLING US ABOUT THIS!?"

Bring back quality weed, not that cheap smelly chemical shit.

StateofZen posted...

Bring back quality weed, not that cheap smelly chemical shit.

smelly chemical shit?? man i dunno where you're getting your weed from.....

UnfairRepresent posted...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/K0_VIJLHmmo

It's a little rich given how many people she put behind bars for it but hey-ho.

Only if you are on that purity bs that acts like one can't evolve and grow over the years.

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I don't personally smoke it, but it's difficult to escape the smell in many areas of the DMV area.

I have nothing against weed being legalized. I only have 2 areas of complaint (which has little to do with the legalization.) I wish my younger sister was never introduced to it. The bad quality weed smells like ripe armpits

HashtagSEP posted...

Isn't it unfortunate that Kamala chose weed for literally the only issue she was allowed to talk about before the election? If only they were capable of talking about more than one issue, but alas.

It is kind of a big issue actually. Like half the prisoners in the US are in prison for weed related crimes. If weed weren't illegal, there might be a brief period of time where our lead as the country with the highest percentage of its population in prison is slightly diminished before they find another arbitrary harmless thing to make illegal to keep the slave labor supply high.

el_cheato posted...

It is kind of a big issue actually. Like half the prisoners in the US are in prison for weed related crimes. If weed weren't illegal, there might be a brief period of time where our lead as the country with the highest percentage of its population in prison is slightly diminished before they find another arbitrary harmless thing to make illegal to keep the slave labor supply high.

I was gonna say, there's a financial reason why the US has such a large prison percentage