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DoesntMatter
11/10/24 10:43:02 PM
#52:


LightHawKnight posted...
I mean there had to be a reason why republicans banned doj observers, when the observers were legally allowed to be there.
yeah. that is very fishy.

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Proto_Spark
11/10/24 10:43:50 PM
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DoesntMatter posted...
the audio clip was posted in a different topic, and i listened to it. they talk about how the democrats supposedly had a "go fast switch" for all the voting machines, which is verbiage taken from supposed switches that airplanes had in the 70s and 80s that allowed the pilot to bypass federally mandated speed limiters built into the airplane's systems in order to fly the plane at higher and potentially unsafe speeds.

they supposedly found out about these "go fast switches" that the democrats had and were banking on being able to use in order to "steal" the election, but they hacked into the machines and supposedly disabled the "go fast switches" so that when the democrats pulled the trigger on them and expected them to do their thing, they did nothing instead. they were talking about supposedly the same thing happened with the opposition government in Venezuela. their "go fast switches" didn't work when they thought they would.

it's curious, because they talk about the evidence for it being how the Harris campaign and people close to it were suspiciously confident that they would win the election, and their reaction to the results being not what you'd expect from people thinking the odds were 50/50 and they lost but people who thought it was 100% a lock and then lost. but then they also talk about how there was the same kind of confidence with the Trump campaign. so there is weird cognitive dissonance there. the dems are confident because they are cheating, but Trump is confident because he knows he's going to win. fucking ridiculous if you ask me.

but anyway, yeah, this definitely sounds like they were able to somehow get into the systems in ways that you are not supposed to be able to. this really needs to be looked into.

Another interesting thing they mentioned was that Trump pretty much always maintained a pretty significant lead in the popular vote, and that's simply not how it should've happened. Like Harris should have gotten a big bump in the northeast and when the West coast started tallying their votes, and that didn't really happen, and Trump should've gotten a bump in Florida, but Trump always was just consistently in front the whole time. Interesting especially towards the end of the night when the only places left to count were the really big cities that always went Blue, and that influx of Harris votes just never came.

Could definitely be interpreted as basically bragging about rigging the votes in a "not directly saying we did it" kind of way, but it could also potentially be Alex-Jones-esque conspiratorial jargon about "how they couldn't keep us down"

Definitely sounds like something that should be looked into.
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Frosted_Midna
11/10/24 10:47:02 PM
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Doubt anything will come through with it.

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apolloooo
11/10/24 10:48:09 PM
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I doubt they can affect millions of votes. We lost in every way possible.

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Mr_Karate_II
11/10/24 10:51:20 PM
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It should be looked into at the very least.


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Kolibri_X
11/10/24 10:56:01 PM
#57:


BunkerBoy posted...
I'm calling this out as bullshit as I did you

That's good, because oddly enough I don't think mods care about election conspiracy theories this time. The election was free and fair, and the only thing "hacked" were the hearts and minds of nearly 75 million voters by the captivating Donald J Trump.

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BlackScythe0
11/10/24 11:03:09 PM
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Get back to me when this shit makes it to a court room
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DoesntMatter
11/10/24 11:10:58 PM
#59:


Kolibri_X posted...
That's good, because oddly enough I don't think mods care about election conspiracy theories this time. The election was free and fair, and the only thing "hacked" were the hearts and minds of nearly 75 million voters by the captivating Donald J Trump.
maybe they "don't care" this time because last time, the literal only thing MAGA cultists were basing their election conspiracy theories on was the great holy immaculate word of their glorious orange god-emperor and nothing else. whereas this time we have all seen the incontrovertible evidence that there is no denying of armed rightwing militias appointing themselves as election security and camping out outside of polling locations in blue counties with guns, and ballot boxes being set on fire, and bomb threats being called in to polling places. and now a genuine recording of billionaire MAGA loyalists openly admitting to hacking into voting systems.

funny how that works, huh?

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Alucard188
11/10/24 11:12:20 PM
#60:


DoesntMatter posted...
the audio clip was posted in a different topic, and i listened to it. they talk about how the democrats supposedly had a "go fast switch" for all the voting machines, which is verbiage taken from supposed switches that airplanes had in the 70s and 80s that allowed the pilot to bypass federally mandated speed limiters built into the airplane's systems in order to fly the plane at higher and potentially unsafe speeds.

they supposedly found out about these "go fast switches" that the democrats had and were banking on being able to use in order to "steal" the election, but they hacked into the machines and supposedly disabled the "go fast switches" so that when the democrats pulled the trigger on them and expected them to do their thing, they did nothing instead. they were talking about supposedly the same thing happened with the opposition government in Venezuela. their "go fast switches" didn't work when they thought they would.

it's curious, because they talk about the evidence for it being how the Harris campaign and people close to it were suspiciously confident that they would win the election, and their reaction to the results being not what you'd expect from people thinking the odds were 50/50 and they lost but people who thought it was 100% a lock and then lost. but then they also talk about how there was the same kind of confidence with the Trump campaign. so there is weird cognitive dissonance there. the dems are confident because they are cheating, but Trump is confident because he knows he's going to win. fucking ridiculous if you ask me.

but anyway, yeah, this definitely sounds like they were able to somehow get into the systems in ways that you are not supposed to be able to. this really needs to be looked into.

So with no evidence, it's them basically saying, "yeah, we knew about their hack, so we hacked into their hack and broke their hack so they couldn't hack.". Does that sound about right? Am I reading it correctly?

It sounds like kids playing superhero on the playground and making up reasons why they are immortal and can't be beaten because of superpowers.

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DoesntMatter
11/10/24 11:13:29 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
So with no evidence, it's them basically saying, "yeah, we knew about their hack, so we hacked into their hack and broke their hack so they couldn't hack.". Does that sound about right? Am I reading it correctly?
i'm not entirely sure i understand it correctly, but as far as i can tell, yes

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Kolibri_X
11/10/24 11:35:04 PM
#62:


DoesntMatter posted...
funny how that works, huh?

Yeah, this election cope is hilarious.

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DoesntMatter
11/10/24 11:39:46 PM
#63:


Kolibri_X posted...
Yeah, this election cope is hilarious.
lol oh yeah, a fascist regime just took power in this country, potentially by illegitimate means, or maybe not, but either way by playing to the bigotry and xenophobia and gullibility of ignorant racists and sexists who want to see all the brown people gone from the country and want a world where women have no rights and can be forced into sexual subservience by any white male who wishes because it's "your body, my choice, forever". and in all likelihood they are going to get their wish.

fucking hilarious

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lilORANG
11/10/24 11:41:04 PM
#64:


Kolibri_X posted...
Yeah, this election cope is hilarious.
Next they'll stage a coup and storm the Capitol to prevent certifying the election!

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OrangeCrush980
11/10/24 11:57:30 PM
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What if they find that there was vote stuffing for Harris at a 2-1 ratio compared to Trump vote stuffing?

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DnDer
11/11/24 12:11:02 AM
#66:


Kolibri_X posted...
the captivating Donald J Trump.

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DoesntMatter
11/11/24 12:16:16 AM
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more on this, one of the replies in the chain has links to other people finding evidence and making claims of more voter fraud, and here's this one that is the "@Spoonamore" that is referenced in the original tweet:

https://xcancel.com/BBtwas1/status/1855010496732098822?s=19

basically an expert in the field of e-protection explaining exactly how these vote tabulation systems were hacked, how easy it really is, and how it will be easily verified that they were hacked with hand counts if they were to be done

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Zazabar
11/11/24 12:17:45 AM
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nothing is gonna happen. the man is already a convicted felon. even if Harris won, I couldn't imagine much would've happened to Trump, anyway.

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Srk700
11/11/24 12:24:13 AM
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Even if there was clear cut evidence that there was enough interference to flip the entire election and like 75% of America were in favor of giving Kamala the win, I dont trust Biden or Garland to actually take action. Especially the latter as hes shown himself to be nothing but a spineless coward over and over again.
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DoesntMatter
11/11/24 12:25:53 AM
#71:


Srk700 posted...
Even if there was clear cut evidence that there was enough interference to flip the entire election and like 75% of America were in favor of giving Kamala the win, I dont trust Biden or Garland to actually take action. Especially the latter as hes shown himself to be nothing but a spineless coward over and over again.
you're right. they are fucking cowards. but maybe Harris would take action?

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Deyestus
11/11/24 12:28:06 AM
#72:


Something just didn't seem right about this election. At the very least, it should be investigated, even if it doesn't turn anything up.

(Not saying it was rigged, but if there are some questionable components, no harm in looking into it, just to have a clear answer.)

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BlackScythe0
11/11/24 12:33:37 AM
#73:


Kolibri_X posted...
That's good, because oddly enough I don't think mods care about election conspiracy theories this time. The election was free and fair, and the only thing "hacked" were the hearts and minds of nearly 75 million voters by the captivating Donald J Trump.

What is going on this time? Last time conservatives were repeating debunked lies over and over and over again. Is there something I'm missing that makes this compare to last time?
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Notti
11/11/24 12:39:32 AM
#74:


Charismic_Zach_Gowen posted...
The audio was released. The Bluesky link just screenshotted the tweet. At the very least, Byrne should get an FBI visit from this.

https://x.com/jimstewartson/status/1855358589474640067


What these fully brain rotted chud conspiracy theorists are talking about is trying to reconcile why Dems cheated to win in 2020 and 2022, but why this conspiracy theory didn't work in 2024.

They don't seem to be saying they used some hack.

What they're saying is their stubborn maga patriotic fortitude caused Cheating Kamalas cheating hack finger to slip on the magic MOAR VOATS button.

So you see, all the SEEMINGLY FRUITLESS lawsuits of 2021 etc did work!

Our conspiracy theories were totally right. Our lawsuits did work. And here is our new conspiracy theory to explain why our conspiracy theory didn't appear in 2024!!1 see, we were right allll along!!

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DoesntMatter
11/11/24 12:44:16 AM
#75:


Notti posted...
They don't seem to be saying they used some hack.

What they're saying is their stubborn maga patriotic fortitude caused Cheating Kamalas cheating hack finger to slip on the magic MOAR VOATS button.
no, you are incorrect. they are not saying that Kamala's "hack finger" slipped. they said they got into the system and made it so that when the democrats' supposed hacking mechanism was supposed to work, it wouldn't.

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Zero_Destroyer
11/11/24 12:53:37 AM
#76:


This is about as deranged as the Dominion shit. Yeah man, they hacked it, but happened to leave off a downballot red wave that would've made plenty of sense with Trump's vote margins. Totally dude not absurdist at all

Identical to claiming that Dems cheated it for Biden but forgot to give them more house/senate seats lol

Anything to not look inwards

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Dark_SilverX
11/11/24 1:33:09 AM
#77:


It was a fair election. Try again.

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DoesntMatter
11/11/24 1:36:56 AM
#78:


Dark_SilverX posted...
It was a fair election. Try again.
nothing that Trump has ever done in his entire life has been fair. try again.

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firedoom666
11/11/24 1:47:44 AM
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Seems like baseless conspiracy theory to me.

People should not fall down to Trump's level

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-ZIO-
11/11/24 6:13:22 AM
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When they win: fair election, cry more.
When they lose: diapers full and storm the capital.

Weird.
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Hejiru
11/11/24 6:28:59 AM
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There wont be an investigation. Establishment democrats care more about optics than winning.

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thekosmicfool
11/11/24 6:50:03 AM
#83:


littlebro07 posted...
And if this actually turns out to be legit and the election results get redone and Harris winsMAGA will be (understandably) fucking outraged.

Uh...boo hoo? Like, understandably upset? IF they get upset at the people responsibe for cheating, sure. But we all know who they would ACTUALLY get upset at, and that would not be understandable.

That said, you need actual evidence. By all means, investigate and see what happens. But no one should be expecting anything to come of it or believing it's true with no evidence. We're better than that.


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gatorsPENSbucs
11/11/24 6:52:30 AM
#84:


Dark_SilverX posted...
It was a fair election. Try again.
Yah, this is pretty interesting. Spend 4 years insulting people who think it wasnt fair, but then immediately say it wasnt fair when their side loses.

Weird. Like a twilight zone episode.

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thekosmicfool
11/11/24 6:57:47 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Yah, this is pretty interesting. Spend 4 years insulting people who think it wasnt fair, but then immediately say it wasnt fair when their side loses.

Weird. Like a twilight zone episode.

They had every chance to prove their case. They also had a candidate who was whining that it was rigged the time he WON because he didn't get the popular vote, and was whining before he lost reelection that there would be cheating and it was impossible for him to lose otherwise.

That's why Trump humpers were made fun of. They backed the most election denying scuzzball there is.

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LeoRavus
11/11/24 7:00:59 AM
#86:


They could overturn the election results and send Donald packing???

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Monopoman
11/11/24 7:13:35 AM
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-ZIO- posted...
When they win: fair election, cry more.
When they lose: diapers full and storm the capital.

Weird.

Nah it's like playing games against some 5 year olds where they think anytime you win you cheated, and anytime they win it's obvious because they were good at the game.

Donald Trump has the mentality of a 5 year old that whines and bitches when he loses anything, but it has to always be rigged in that case. Shit he was petty as fuck about Hillary having more votes than him in 2016, he claimed she only got more votes because of illegals he just stopped whining about it because no one cared.

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-ZIO-
11/11/24 7:26:18 AM
#88:


It's just weird to bury it as fast as possible claiming it was a fair election given the chronic and historically known cheater wins. Three months ago he said he had all the votes he needed. Mike Johnson said they had a secret for winning the election. Elon Musk's Starlink was possibly used to count votes in swing states, not forgetting how hard he was campaigning for Trump. 50 bomb threats. Where did Trump's claims of cheating in Pennsylvania go?

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SauI_Goodman
11/11/24 7:45:51 AM
#89:


How come nobody's reporting this?

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SauI_Goodman
11/11/24 7:55:36 AM
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Until this picks up some steam other than what this Rick Taylor guys says, I can't really believe this will go anywhere.

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littlebro07
11/11/24 8:31:02 AM
#91:


thekosmicfool posted...
Uh...boo hoo? Like, understandably upset? IF they get upset at the people responsibe for cheating, sure. But we all know who they would ACTUALLY get upset at, and that would not be understandable.

By understandably upset I meant more that if you look at things from their warped point of view this would be the second time the election was stolen from them, only this time their guy actually won and then had victory forcibly taken from him.

So their outrage would make sense, based on how they view things. Im not saying we should treat them with kid gloves over it or anything like that, just that its something that we should all prepare for if this goes anywhere.


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littlebro07
11/11/24 8:34:02 AM
#92:


firedoom666 posted...
Seems like baseless conspiracy theory to me.

People should not fall down to Trump's level

2020 was baseless, as was proven by all of the investigations that turned up nothing. The whole conspiracy was just that votes magically appeared out of nowhere.

2024 has a lot of fishy shit that could turn out to be something, or it could all just be weird coincidence that had nothing to do with it.

Investigate any weird shit, and if it all turns out to be legit then so be it. Just dont storm the capitol >_>

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bobbycorwin
11/11/24 9:20:54 AM
#93:


Hejiru posted...
There wont be an investigation. Establishment democrats care more about optics than winning.

Establishment Dems are about to get some nice tax breaks from Trump. Ive wondered if they even care about winning anymore.

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Dyinglegacy
11/11/24 9:31:51 AM
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Sigh
it was pathetic when trumpets did it, its pathetic when you do it too

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DnDer
11/11/24 9:36:23 AM
#95:


Dyinglegacy posted...
Sigh
it was pathetic when trumpets did it, its pathetic when you do it to.

It was pathetic when Trumpers did is 60+ times in court and couldn't produce any concrete evidence at all, and were laughed out of court when they weren't rightfully (finally) disbarred.

It's not pathetic when you have major players from the side that "won" saying they sabotaged a federal election by manipulating voting tabulations on tape. That is an actual criminal conspiracy that there was a microphone present for.

And you think it's pathetic to want it investigated?

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Dyinglegacy
11/11/24 10:00:33 AM
#96:


DnDer posted...
It was pathetic when Trumpers did is 60+ times in court and couldn't produce any concrete evidence at all, and were laughed out of court when they weren't rightfully (finally) disbarred.

It's not pathetic when you have major players from the side that "won" saying they sabotaged a federal election by manipulating voting tabulations on tape. That is an actual criminal conspiracy that there was a microphone present for.

And you think it's pathetic to want it investigated?
A recording wouldnt be enough as ai can deepfake anything now. Youd need them on a stand in front of the world.

As is, its just conspiracy. And wishful thinking.

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ellis123
11/11/24 10:02:17 AM
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Dyinglegacy posted...
A recording wouldnt be enough as ai can deepfake anything now. Youd need them on a stand in front of the world.

As is, its just conspiracy. And wishful thinking.
Can you pack your bags faster?

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LearntoRead
11/11/24 10:05:03 AM
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I admit, Im following this, but I expecting nothing.
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Unknown5uspect
11/11/24 10:06:49 AM
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LearntoRead posted...
I admit, Im following this, but I expecting nothing.
We could have ironclad proof that this did indeed happen and nothing will come of it.

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GhostFaceLeaks
11/11/24 10:13:13 AM
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Even if it did happen this won't be on the news, our systems are too corrupt to care, and people stopped caring the moment Trump won anyways.

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tommyrocket
11/11/24 10:39:57 AM
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I listened to most of the audio. It's non-stop projection from coming from them. Also rambling about "algorithms", when, judging by how they spoke about it, they don't know what that is, they just try to act like they do. They also brought religious divine intervention ("the Hand of God") into it, like uneducated anti-science idiots. Sure, sure, something that can't possibly exist totally intervened in a machine. Keep telling yourselves that.

Another ridiculous thing they said: "Deepstate women of color"

These guys literally just say anything and expect it to stick. Knowing their base, it unfortunately will.
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WingsOfGood
11/11/24 10:50:55 AM
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Is it really evidence if what they guy says he did is absolute nonsense?
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