Current Events > I've only played one MegaMan X game, and I fucking hated it

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https://x.com/SyPoNecroCDi/status/1858220941056053503

This whole sequence btw

What x is that x6?

Having played them all, I'd say most X games are pretty bad, besides 1 and 4.

I'll recognize that from X5 easily because that stage is either piss easy or rage inducing depending on if you care about getting the armor pieces. >_>

Though i do think "bad game design" as currently used is an extremely narrow-sighted catchphrase that gets thrown around too easily just because people don't like a thing.

I really only like x-x4 , tried playing x5 more then 1st thu but I just can't get into it I don't like x5 and >

It's X5

I got it on sale for 2 bucks and deleted that shit so fast. I turned the game on twice and realized the frame rate was low the first time cuz 2nd attempt was actually smooth.

The only reason I know that's X5 is because of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmV26O4Erdw

I've been following that Robin Poe guy because he's the only dev making a Zelda 2 clone and he certainly has some unique takes every once in a while

Ah, X5. One of the first games I ever played, took me like a year to beat it as a kid but by god I toughed it and X6 out. Getting all the orbs for the armor piece in that stage was such a pain, lol.

Please play X7 before commenting further

Well let me just said don't let mm x5 leave a rotten taste in your mouth, x-x4 are actually fun and are playable without breaking your fingers on stupid jumps in the sigma stages . Seriously x-x4 was Great classics and hope you give them a shot or at least check them out on YouTube

megamanfreakXD posted...

Please play X7 before commenting further

NO don't unless you want to play one worst then x5

I agree with the other posters. Anything after X4 is iffy to downright slog.

X2 and X3 have slight issues as well. They built off the chassis of X1 but some how feel less polished, imo. But X4s jump to PS1 was huge. Love that game and X1 is just a classic.

Also why is the X1 remake still in jail on the PSP?

Isnt X6 like the worst offender

I'll be honest, I've never liked X4. X5 and X6 gave me a false expectation of the series, when I got to play X4 a few years later I beat it that day and went "yo what, this was lame".

They're no X7 though, I've seen people put them on the same level and that's just. Oof.

I loved X1-X3. Rented them all the time and played the fuck out of them as a kid, still enjoyed them with the MMX Collection later on.

X5 and X6 I tolerated but they didn't click as much for me. Enjoyable enough, but no real desire to go back.

X4 I got annoyed by the boarding sections and just said fuck it, never even beat it.

Never played any that came after 6.

In either X5 or 6 (can't remember) there's a part with a crushing ceiling where you have to duck to survive...

ok, cool cool - games have done this for ages, Mario 3, Megaman 4, Contra 2.

What Megaman X5 (or 6) does? You can let GO of the duck button to instantly die, even if the wall is moving upwards and is slightly too low

X willingly crushes himself solely under his own power

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Isnt X6 like the worst offender

It is
https://youtu.be/vb289DOh1gM?si=ERcGycxUKYv7-KTN

X6 has moments where the nightmare virus might generate blocks that dont allow you to move forward in the stage unless you have the right armor, which also requires a lot of effort and even random luck.

X6 is worse than X7, simply because X7 lets you play the game normally. X6 will kick you in the face and say why are you hitting yourself while texting pictures of it to your mom

https://youtu.be/0XnKNOyCFlE?si=Cmq-WwKsgVEwYwPy

Obligatory Duff McWhalen

I believe people would have far less issues with X5 if the gameplay flow wasn't continuously broken by Alia saying obvious nonsense for you at every segment.

I liked X5 except for two things: that stupid squid boss and his aforementioned stage. It's not like Volt Kraken was difficult or his design was bad or anything. It was the way he fought. At times he would just try to slowly float into you. Like seriously... punch, tackle, whip with the tentacles or SOMETHING. Don't just try to limply make contact <_<

joe_stalin518 posted...

NO don't unless you want to play one worst then x5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_D2lX8tfi4

It's like if you hop over the the funny ass Dragon Ball boards, nobody knows how to use their words, it's a bunch of borderline nonverbal folks that just say "bad writing".

megamanfreakXD posted...

Please play X7 before commenting further

I always wondered if X8 was genuinely good, or the pain that was X7 just made me think it was.

loafy013 posted...

I always wondered if X8 was genuinely good, or the pain that was X7 just made me think it was.

X8 was pretty good. It was alright. It wasnt great. But it was fine.

CE_gonna_CE posted...

X8 was pretty good. It was alright. It wasnt great. But it was fine.

It is fun for what it is. But it was X8 that made me realize how much Megaman loses its charm when it isn't pixel art.

X5-X7 are more meme than game, if you enjoy sidescrolling platformers and whatnot try one of the other ones

If it makes you feel any better, Squid Adler's ride chaser stage is by far the hardest one in the X series. Sounds to me like you just got unlucky choosing that first.

X2 had a ride chaser stage where the ride chaser was completely optional. X4 had one that was actually a lot of fun. X5 had this one. X7 had one that was terrible but easy enough to just get through. X8 had two, and one was passable while the other was annoying (but not as annoying as this one).

The actual worst thing in the series is collecting those reploids in the bottom right corner of Infinity Majinininninionon's stage in X6. Also Infinity Majijninijjijoon's name. What the hell is a Majijijnjijojijojon anyway?

tt is literally what every single friend i've ever had that played any MMX game has said to me

I play through 1-6 every year or two. 1-4 are great. I actually like 6 more than 5, as 5s time limit schtick is diametrically opposed to how I like to play through these.

Im not sure why, but most of my life, the way I like to play these is going through every stage to get all possible stuff then dying to get back to stage select before fighting any boss, then repeat after the boss. So at every phase, I have all possible heart tanks, armor pieces, etc.

For 5 and 6, I do three playthroughs each:

1. One with only Zero collecting life ups and defeating bosses
2. One with only X defeating life ups and defeating bosses
3. One where the life ups and bosses are evenly split between X and Zero

I actually like x5 and x6
:(

Ricemills posted...

I actually like x5 and x6
:(

I like them too, but 6 more than 5.

ReturnOfDevsman posted...

What the hell is a Majijijnjijojijojon anyway?

Just looked it up. Always assumed it was a scientific name for an amoeba, but it appears to be the Japanese for water flea (mijinko), since they half-assed the english translation of X6.

loafy013 posted...

Just looked it up. Always assumed it was a scientific name for an amoeba, but it appears to be the Japanese for water flea (mijinko), since they half-assed the english translation of X6.

It's a backlash on X5's name translation that took too many liberty, so they translate X6 names close to the original.

Ricemills posted...

It's a backlash on X5's name translation that took too many liberty, so they translate X6 names close to the original.

I can't believe that that have done that which was done by them.

X8 is fine. X5 is overhated. X6 is underbaked. X7 is a fucking travesty. There is no world where it's a better game than X6, simply because X4's basis is so fundamentally solid that even when a game is as jank as X6 it's still miles ahead of the absolute mess that is everything about X7's gameplay.

People say X6 onward is where it gets bad, but it really started with X5. X1 > X2 > X3 > X4 imo

loafy013 posted...

I always wondered if X8 was genuinely good, or the pain that was X7 just made me think it was.

I think X8's bosses are genuinely fun, it's just the levels to get to them blow

Kaldrenthebold posted...

People say X6 onward is where it gets bad, but it really started with X5. X1 > X2 > X3 > X4 imo

This. I have been hating on dumb X5 decisions ever since X5 first became a thing. X5's hour countdown doesn't even matter since the game will decide to do the RNG failure or success parts on it's own (and if you don't get the result you want just reload your game and do it again. Whole thing is a waste of time). X5 has a system where the maverick bosses level up when the countdown goes lower, and when they get a high enough level you get equippable parts for X and zero. However if you play the game naturally bosses won't get a high enough level to drop their parts until only like, 4 or 3 mavericks is left to fight.......this means if you want the 8 total parts/1 from every single maverick boss you have to intentionally kill yourself and burn the clock until only 8 or 7 hours is left to go. (Its 8 hours to go I think. I really don't like replaying X5 like that so I'm going off the top of my head with this, I just know that offing yourself and running down the clock to level the bosses up is what you need to do for those parts).

Also ever since zero got his own story mode since X4 X5 is the only game where you can't collect all the heart parts with him unless you do some really stupid off the wall shenanigans with invincibility/something like that. (The heart piece in crescent grizzly's stage).

Most of X5's stages in general is kind of boring. Grizzly's is cool, the firefly's is also cool, dinorex, the rose, and the bat's are ok. Spiral pegasus' is kind of boring, and squid+especially the whale's is stages no one actually wants to play through.

Now X6 is definitely a rushed game with it's share of poor design, but I still think X6 is a bit overhated compared to the total piece of crap X7 was. X8 ain't even a bad game overall outside of the dumb man-o-war bike level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XnKNOyCFlE

I think the only legitimately great X games are the SNES ones. Maybe X4 too. The rest range from outright bad to divisive, I feel like the X series would've benefitted from stopping at five like the creator wanted it to.

Funny to see Robin Poe pop up here though.

X1 - X3 are the best ones

BakonBitz posted...

I think the only legitimately great X games are the SNES ones. Maybe X4 too. The rest range from outright bad to divisive.

Funny to see Robin Poe pop up here though.

I feel like 4 is a bit overrated.

Its a good game, I really enjoyed it, dont get me wrong, but the only reason it is viewed better than 5 and 6 in hindsight is because of the gaping flaws and BS that 5 and 6 have.

And 6 has way more BS than 5 far as Im concerned.

Kaldrenthebold posted...

People say X6 onward is where it gets bad, but it really started with X5. X1 > X2 > X3 > X4 imo

X5 was a clever idea. It just wasn't what people wanted from an X game. It took the MGS2 approach of showing you the game it shouldn't be.

Let me explain.

This is the only game in the series where you have an actual how to play option in the main menu. In addition to showing off the new gameplay features that slow you down (in the spinoff most notably differentiate from the parent series by the dedicated go fast button), it also advised you to analyze the situation and figure out which enemies to attack and which to simply pass by. The game then begins, with an all-new Operator chatting in your ear to give you Intel regularly.

X and Zero, our series veterans (keep in mind, Alia is the series newcomer) and consequently, the ones who get how this works, have this conversation:

Zero: Anyway, where is Sigma?!
X: He took off. Alia is looking for him now, but she can't pick up any readings.
Zero: He is a virus... ... he can't be seen or analyzed correctly like other data. You have to feel his evil energy. That's the only way to find him.
X: I see...

So basically, Zero just cast doubt on the whole game philosophy to this point, especially in terms of what's new about it.

Sure enough, it all backfires and the Hunters succeed in completing phase one of Sigma's evil scheme by spreading the virus all over the world.

The game continues from there, complete with more "slow down and think about it" types of challenges (for example, the flying platforms with spikes that you have to duck to get past, and the laser bug maze). It even does the time limit thing to specifically discourage many players' play style. And even the game's instruction booklet gives you nonsense advice on how to handle this: "You should handle to Mavericks that are easiest for you first"... as if you know, before fighting them, which are easiest for you. Then there's Dynamo, who positively screws up any strategic use of time that you had planned out.

After a series of additional failures by following the "slow down and think about it" approach, and so much being legitimately left to chance in spite of it (the branching story moments are partially random and you can only help your chances one way or the other), we come back to this observation again:

X: ....... ...What are you... talking about?! ...What's up... Why do you... ......... ...wait... ...I don't know... exactly why... ... but I know what you are thinking... ...You told me once before, right? "There are things that cannot be seen or analyzed correctly as data." ...We have to feel... There are things that we can only feel... ...I feel it very strongly...now...

But it's too late. Not a single one of the game's three endings is a happy one. The message here is, stop trying to overthink things. Which, oddly enough, is what I'm doing right now. You know, the typical anime cliche.

Now, notice I said it's a clever game, and it is. But I also said it's not the game players wanted, and I stand by that also. I do think it's a fun game to play, for a lot of reasons. It's just not one that plays a lot like the earlier games in the series. And the things that are deliberately obtuse are still obtuse.

And I thought that story-wise, it was frankly peak MMX. Having an actual cast of Maverick Hunters for the first time (instead of X and Zero plus or minus one contact sometimes) was a great move that really made the organization feel real for once. I also thought that the mission planning sequences were cool.

It's a game I really like, that I don't think gets enough credit for the clever ideas it brought. But it's certainly unconventional, and I don't fault anybody for finding that frustrating.

Honestly I think X4 is kinda slow and boring and prefer X5 because I just feel more engaged in the platforming and action.

Both are better than X6's clusterfuck level design though >_>

2Pacavelli posted...

X1 - X3 are the only ones

Fixed.

Well if your first Mega Man X game is 5, 6, or 7, then of course you're going to hate it.

One run in X5 I just started up the game and fired the laser and it worked and just skipped to end game lol