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Maze_ 01/11/25 11:29:02 AM #1: |
Did you know that wrestling is mentioned four times in the Bible? One was a literal wrestling match (Gen. 32:24). Another wrestling match involved a relationship between two women (Gen. 30:8). The other two places that mention wrestling involve spiritual battles: against spiritual wickedness (Eph. 6:12) and against those who oppose the truth (Jude 3). This first wrestling match involved a patriarch named Jacob and an angel. It is recorded in Genesis 32:22-30. Jacob was returning to his home in Canaan after having been away many years. As he traveled, he came to the ford Jabbok. That afternoon, he sent his family across the ford, but he remained by himself. And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of day (Gen. 32:24). It was a long bout. Many things happened during that night match. When the angel did not prevail against Jacob, he touched the hollow of Jacobs thigh and the hollow of Jacobs thigh was out of joint (Gen. 32:25). Jacob would not let the messenger go until he received a blessing from him (Gen. 32:26). Jacobs name was changed from Jacob to Israel (Gen. 32:27-28). Jacob had power with God and with men and prevailed that evening (Gen. 32:28). Jacob received a blessing (Gen. 32:29). Jacob named the place Peniel (Gen. 32:30). He chose that name because he had seen God face to face, and his life was preserved (Gen. 32:30). The second wrestling match was a struggle between two women who were married to the same man. The women are Leah and Rachel. Their husband was Jacob. Jacob originally desired Rachel to be his wife. He labored seven years to obtain her. However, the custom of the day demanded that the elder daughter be married first. Thus, he first received Leah as a wife. When he agreed to work another seven years, he was given Rachel also. The battle between these two sisters started when children were brought into the family. Leah was able to conceive, but Rachel was not able at first. Leah bore Jacob four sons initially: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, and Judah. And when Rachel saw she bare Jacob no children, Rachel envied her sister (Gen. 30:1). Rachel devised a plan whereby she could have children through her handmaid Bilhah. And she gave Bilhah her handmaid to wife: and Jacob went in unto her (Gen. 30:4). Two sons were born to Bilhad, Dan and Naphtali. It was Rachel who chose Naphtalis name. And Rachel said, With great wrestlings have I wrestled with my sister, and I have prevailed: and she called his name Naphtali (Gen. 30:8). The battle between these two sisters did not stop at that point. They continued their struggle until eleven sons and one daughter were brought into the family. Another son would be born later named Benjamin. The years during which these children were being born were very tumultuous. The struggles must have been difficult for all involved. Remember, Rachel described the difficulties as great wrestlings. https://carolinamessenger.wordpress.com/2020/02/20/the-bibles-wrestling-matches-victor-m-eskew/ Ended in submission too. None of that DQ run in bullshit. --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 01/11/25 11:31:47 AM #2: |
Hoarah Loux is essentially a WWE character. --- Science and Algorithms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wanderingshade 01/11/25 11:32:56 AM #3: |
Do you think Bible characters helped invent Pankration? --- "You're made of spare parts, aren't ya, bud?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CRON 01/11/25 11:33:47 AM #4: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/83c9fabf.jpg --- Thanks for reading! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HighSeraph 01/11/25 11:34:32 AM #5: |
Didn't the ancient greeks invent wrestling? --- She/Her Crimsoness' Alt Dynamite with a laser beam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 01/11/25 11:35:18 AM #6: |
God is a just a shitty booker nowadays. He keeps letting the heels win every single time. --- Fix your hearts or die. When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wanderingshade 01/11/25 11:40:15 AM #7: |
HighSeraph posted... Didn't the ancient greeks invent wrestling? The ancient greeks invented MMA. They were basically watching UFC at the Theater of Delphi. --- "You're made of spare parts, aren't ya, bud?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LincolnDuncan 01/11/25 11:41:00 AM #8: |
I mean yeah, Austin 3:16 is one of my favorite verses. I believe it says "I just whooped your ass" --- "I'm not a very nostalgic person, I neither have regrets nor occasions for self-congratulations." - Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 01/11/25 12:10:21 PM #9: |
Wasn't the angel in the first story actually secretly God? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hejiru 01/11/25 12:16:02 PM #10: |
Zikten posted... Wasn't the angel in the first story actually secretly God? Its debated, but yeah thats the most common interpretation. --- The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 01/11/25 12:20:41 PM #11: |
Imaginate having a wrestling match with God. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragulaRULEZ 01/11/25 12:45:41 PM #12: |
There was wrestling in the Tolkien Bible too (Tulkas in The Silmarillion). --- "I'm going to have to disagree with everything you say from now on. Go ahead, say babies shouldn't be skinned alive, see which side I'm on." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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a-c-a-b 01/11/25 12:53:32 PM #13: |
My favourite part of the Bible is when Jesus bashed that one dude with a folding chair. --- Save for your doomed future ... Copied to Clipboard!
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j_coat 01/11/25 1:49:03 PM #14: |
Reading the bold text in JRs voice. --- Play my free full-length RPG game today! (I only login to Gamefaqs once or twice a month these days, I'm more active on Itch) https://jco.itch.io/universal-wars ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shotgunnova 01/11/25 1:51:25 PM #15: |
Baw god, that's Jericho's music! --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZevLoveDOOM 01/11/25 1:52:28 PM #16: |
Biblemania going wild brother! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfDevsman 01/11/25 2:09:43 PM #17: |
I don't get the Jacob one. It's like the most random thing there is. Dude's just minding his own business, waiting for his brother to probably kill him, and this dude shows up out of nowhere, fights him, realizes the sun is coming up, uses superpowers to win and then is like "by the way, I'm God and your name is now Israel" and leaves. And Israel's just like ok then. And then continues to meet with his brother, lol. --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 01/11/25 2:11:49 PM #18: |
But what did they write on the signs back then --- Sack to crack, going to town ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JohnEtrav 01/11/25 2:13:45 PM #19: |
Gods Old Testament finisher was the stone cold stunner. --- Let's get down to brass tacks. How much for the ape? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kuuko 01/11/25 2:22:53 PM #20: |
ReturnOfDevsman posted... I don't get the Jacob one. It's like the most random thing there is.It is super fucking random but also in character for the older Yahweh stories. He's not yet an ethereal presence from another plane of existence. He frequently has a physical presence and just comes and hangs out with people a lot, like the gods of Greek myth often do (or more accurately, like the gods of all the other Canaanite myths often do). Similarly in Genesis, Yahweh just shows up to Abraham's house one day with two other unnamed dudes. And Abraham's like "are u God?" and God's like "ya that's me". And they hang out and chill for a bit. Or also among my favorite stories is an extremely brief, extremely confusing, encounter in Exodus where Moses and his wife are traveling and stop at an inn. But then when they get there, God's there. And he's like "I'm going to kill you". And Moses and his wife panic and circumsise their baby. And this presumably stops God from killing them. And then the story just moves on as if that was normal. --- https://i.imgur.com/dzGMd.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IMNOTRAGED 01/11/25 2:34:42 PM #21: |
Kuuko posted... Or also among my favorite stories is an extremely brief, extremely confusing, encounter in Exodus where Moses and his wife are traveling and stop at an inn. But then when they get there, God's there. And he's like "I'm going to kill you". And Moses and his wife panic and circumsise their baby. And this presumably stops God from killing them. And then the story just moves on as if that was normal. This is the one that always gets me. The only way it could possibly make the slightest bit of sense is if you look at it within the likely historical context, which was that Moses was a god in some contemporary religion and the story is basically mocking him and showing Yahweh's superiority --- DEBO ERA "Be ruthless with systems; be kind to people." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ADW 01/11/25 3:31:01 PM #22: |
Foppe posted... Imaginate having a wrestling match with God. WWE has done it https://www.wwe.com/shows/backlash/2006/matches/22851061 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Maze_ 01/11/25 4:19:27 PM #23: |
ADW posted... WWE has done itAnd God lost --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 01/11/25 4:21:50 PM #24: |
Wrestling was done in Ancient Greece. And they did it naked too. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragulaRULEZ 01/11/25 4:30:27 PM #25: |
a-c-a-b posted... My favourite part of the Bible is when Jesus bashed that one dude with a folding chair.Was it when he expelled the merchants from the Temple? --- "I'm going to have to disagree with everything you say from now on. Go ahead, say babies shouldn't be skinned alive, see which side I'm on." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 01/11/25 8:40:07 PM #26: |
For perhaps some explanation on Yaweh walking around like a Greek god...... if you go back far enough, the Hebrews used to have multiple gods. Nobody knows exactly what caused the change but at some point they got rid of all the other gods, and made the last one left their only one ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 01/11/25 8:41:25 PM #27: |
Yeah but how good was the Angel's entrance theme? And why wasn't this a ladder match? I mean come on Jacob is known for that kinda thing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthDemented 01/11/25 8:54:35 PM #29: |
Yea, did good old jr say "BAH GOD! PONTIOUS STOMPED A MUD HOLE IN JESUS AND WALKED IT DRY" --- Paula Wood. My love, my life. 1980-2021 https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198210788964/#sort=order ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toonstrack 01/11/25 8:59:12 PM #30: |
IMNOTRAGED posted... This is the one that always gets me. The only way it could possibly make the slightest bit of sense is if you look at it within the likely historical context, which was that Moses was a god in some contemporary religion and the story is basically mocking him and showing Yahweh's superiority Was it not because Moses hadn't circumcised the son, so tzipporah hastily did so in his stead? The way it's written, God does not actually speak so we don't get his POV it just states "God intended to kill him" meaning that he must hav given Moses or tzipporah an ultimatum and tzipporah went through with it. In fact the way it's written it could be that Moses was not even aware of what was going on til tzipporah addressed him with the remark after the fact. Its definitely a perplexing passage --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mistere_Man 01/11/25 9:08:29 PM #31: |
Foppe posted... Imaginate having a wrestling match with God. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WOM5X8yV86o&pp=ygURZ3VtYmFsbCBpbWFnaW5hdGU%3D --- Water+Fall=Radiation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Robot2600 01/12/25 5:25:44 PM #32: |
so jacob...a dude, wrestled an angel, and won and that's how israel got its name? im skeptical. --- April 15, 2024: The Day the Internet Died ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 01/12/25 6:21:12 PM #33: |
I had a book of Bible stories when I was a kid. There was a picture I'd look at twenty times every day: Jacob wrestles with the angel. I don't really remember the story, or why the wrestling --just the picture. Jacob is young and very strong. The angel is...a beautiful man, with golden hair and wings, of course. I still dream about it. Many nights. I'm...It's me. In that struggle. Fierce, and unfair. The angel is not human, and it holds nothing back, so how could anyone human win, what kind of a fight is that? It's not just. Losing means your soul thrown down in the dust, your heart torn out from God's. But you can't not lose. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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name_unknown 01/12/25 6:37:13 PM #34: |
Abe Lincoln supposedly has a W-L record of 300 to 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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qwerti 01/12/25 6:42:59 PM #35: |
proverbs 25:4 instead and preferred --- 18/10 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 01/12/25 6:45:17 PM #36: |
Don't fuck with me! I have the power of God and wrestling on my side! --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SauI_Goodman 01/12/25 6:54:35 PM #37: |
What are some biblical references in wwe history you can remember? Chris Jericho and his walls of Jericho Mideon Kane as Cain Vince mcmahon as Satan/ the devil Any more? --- Italian, French, German. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Maze_ 01/13/25 7:22:31 AM #39: |
SauI_Goodman posted... What are some biblical references in wwe history you can remember? ADW posted...
--- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mazingetter 01/13/25 8:51:53 AM #41: |
Foppe posted... Imaginate having a wrestling match with God. Do A Powerbomb! from Image Comics. That's Jesus Christ as the referee. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/efbcdf54.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/39c5085a.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/57af988c.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 01/13/25 8:52:30 AM #42: |
Zangief could beat God --- See profile pic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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joaquintall 01/13/25 10:30:58 PM #43: |
And Judas with the RKO on Christ! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KiwiTerraRizing 01/13/25 10:45:52 PM #44: |
Irony posted... Zangief could beat God What if god had a projectile and great spacing? --- Trucking Legend Don Schneider! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_____Cait 01/13/25 10:49:51 PM #45: |
There is an anime called Battle of the Gods iirc. It is about the gods getting together and pitting famous gods like Zeus, VS famous humans in history or literature, where Adam is one of them. The humans get some help from the gods. its really weird but kind of intriguing p. --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 01/13/25 11:09:31 PM #46: |
_____Cait posted... There is an anime called Battle of the Gods iirc. It is about the gods getting together and pitting famous gods like Zeus, VS famous humans in history or literature, where Adam is one of them. The humans get some help from the gods.I saw the first season of that. It was pretty good ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_____Cait 01/13/25 11:15:32 PM #47: |
Zikten posted... I saw the first season of that. It was pretty good I think Adam was granted the ability to copy and perfect moves of his opponents. He was also nude, sans one leaf. I couldnt tell if it were meant to be taken seriously or not. --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Maze_ 01/14/25 2:58:54 AM #48: |
_____Cait posted... Sounds like not --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 01/14/25 1:58:51 PM #49: |
Maze_ posted... Sounds like notIts kind of a mix of serious and silly I think. Basically the premise is the gods decide to wipe out humanity but they allow us to compete in a tournament to try to prove our worth and change their mind. The whole story is just 1 big tournament arc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaikyoStyle 01/14/25 2:00:23 PM #50: |
Yeah David and Jonathan were just wrestling. Nothing more. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Vetinari 2028. Make Ankh-Morpork Great Again! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Notti 01/17/25 5:35:04 AM #51: |
ZevLoveDOOM posted... Biblemania going wild brother! Deacon Savage laying down the biblical wisdom: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8C4lK41SX-Q --- http://youtube.com/TheYoungTurks/videos http://youtube.com/SamSeder/videos http://RightWingWatch.org http://reddit.com/r/BreadTube http://fb.me/OccupyDemocrats ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SauI_Goodman 01/17/25 6:45:27 PM #52: |
Lmao just pulling cream out of thin air --- Italian, French, German. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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