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WingsOfGood
01/21/25 11:47:40 AM
#53:


Kaldrenthebold posted...
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-lift-pause-2000-pound-bomb-supply-israel-walla-news-reports-2025-01-20/?utm_source=reddit.com

And boom goes the dynamite

again but Biden
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BlackScythe0
01/21/25 11:50:51 AM
#54:


sfcalimari posted...
Reminder that Dio was one of the biggest "yeah but genocide joe" topic derailers for all of last year until he went unsurprisingly quiet after election day.

Well you know people say one thing and work for another then pretend to be shocked they got what they worked for instead of what they asked for.
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Pitbuller_26
01/21/25 11:51:20 AM
#55:


They better fucking come up with a name for Trump and Vance for this. They better get their asses in those streets protesting him since this is worse.

Be consistent, don't switch up now.
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Tmaster148
01/21/25 11:52:36 AM
#56:


Pitbuller_26 posted...
They better fucking come up with a name for Trump and Vance for this. They better get their asses in those streets protesting him since this is worse.

Be consistent, don't switch up now.

Oh that shipped has already sailed. There was a time when pro-palestine protestors could have showed they cared about the situation in Gaza by protesting Trump as well. But they didn't, because it was never about helping Gaza.

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Kain_Highwind
01/21/25 11:53:39 AM
#57:


Tmaster148 posted...
Oh that shipped has already sailed. There was a time when pro-palestine protestors could have showed they cared about the situation in Gaza by protesting Trump as well. But they didn't, because it was never about helping Gaza.
shut the fuck up

Therew as no reason to protest Trump because that's like protesting a brick wall. Literally no chance of him changing his mind, while there was with Harris

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Tmaster148
01/21/25 11:54:57 AM
#58:


Kain_Highwind posted...
shut the fuck up

Therew as no reason to protest Trump because that's like protesting a brick wall. Literally no chance of him changing his mind, while there was with Harris

And would you say that strategy was successful?

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BlackScythe0
01/21/25 11:55:17 AM
#59:


Kain_Highwind posted...
shut the fuck up

Therew as no reason to protest Trump because that's like protesting a brick wall. Literally no chance of him changing his mind, while there was with Harris

"Trump doesn't have to earn our vote we will just give it to him if Kamala doesn't earn it!"
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Kain_Highwind
01/21/25 11:55:28 AM
#60:


Tmaster148 posted...
And would you say that strategy was successful?
glad liberals are using genocide as a gotcha told ya so

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Tmaster148
01/21/25 11:56:14 AM
#61:


Kain_Highwind posted...
glad liberals are using genocide as a gotcha told ya so

You didn't answer the question. Was the strategy of avoiding protesting Trump's views towards Palestine successful in helping Palestine?

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loafy013
01/21/25 11:56:23 AM
#62:


Kain_Highwind posted...
shut the fuck up

Therew as no reason to protest Trump because that's like protesting a brick wall. Literally no chance of him changing his mind, while there was with Harris
Why should they? If there was no chance trump would change his mind, why did those people do everything in their power to dissuade people voting for Harris? If they didn't vote for her, they showed they didn't care if trump won or not.

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HashtagSEP
01/21/25 11:56:45 AM
#63:


Kain_Highwind posted...
glad liberals are using genocide as a gotcha told ya so

You've been doing that this whole time. You've even gleefully been going "I told you so" since, when you thought, for some reason, that Trump was behind the ceasefire.

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Deej
01/21/25 11:57:00 AM
#64:


Kain_Highwind posted...
shut the fuck up

Therew as no reason to protest Trump because that's like protesting a brick wall. Literally no chance of him changing his mind, while there was with Harris
Fucking lmao

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BlackScythe0
01/21/25 11:58:24 AM
#65:


Kain_Highwind posted...
glad liberals are using genocide as a gotcha told ya so

Liberals didn't force the free Palestine movement to so effectively work against their own stated goals to a degree that makes people wonder if the movement was high jacked by Trump supporters to help him.
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Kain_Highwind
01/21/25 11:58:42 AM
#66:


HashtagSEP posted...
You've been doing that this whole time. You've even gleefully been going "I told you so" since, when you thought, for some reason, that Trump was behind the ceasefire.
I never even posted about Trump and teh ceasefire

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Kain_Highwind
01/21/25 11:59:16 AM
#67:


Tmaster148 posted...
You didn't answer the question. Was the strategy of avoiding protesting Trump's views towards Palestine successful in helping Palestine?
"Pwetty pwease Mr Twump can you not be a Repubwican?"

Do you see how stupid this sounds?

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WingsOfGood
01/21/25 12:00:41 PM
#68:


Kain_Highwind posted...
shut the fuck up

Therew as no reason to protest Trump because that's like protesting a brick wall. Literally no chance of him changing his mind, while there was with Harris

Why should he shut up?
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HashtagSEP
01/21/25 12:01:03 PM
#69:


Kain_Highwind posted...
I never even posted about Trump and teh ceasefire

Kain_Highwind
01/15/25 2:14:36 PM
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undefined posted...
Maybe dems would have tried to win if they knew Trump winning the election would lead to a ceasefire

So I see we're just lying now.


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BlackScythe0
01/21/25 12:01:48 PM
#70:


Kain_Highwind posted...
"Pwetty pwease Mr Twump can you not be a Repubwican?"

Do you see how stupid this sounds?

So the better strategy is "Please please please don't vote for the only one of the two people who will help us!" can't say I follow the strategy.
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Kain_Highwind
01/21/25 12:02:17 PM
#71:


HashtagSEP posted...
So I see we're just lying now.
okay I forgot a single post I made a week ago sue me

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Kain_Highwind
01/21/25 12:02:38 PM
#72:


BlackScythe0 posted...
So the better strategy is "Please please please don't vote for the only one of the two people who will help us!" can't say I follow the strategy.
I didn't say not vote for her

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WingsOfGood
01/21/25 12:02:50 PM
#73:


BlackScythe0 posted...
So the better strategy is "Please please please don't vote for the only one of the two people who will help us!" can't say I follow the strategy.

if you want Trump to win

and he won

so
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BlackScythe0
01/21/25 12:04:00 PM
#74:


Kain_Highwind posted...
I didn't say not vote for her

The Free Palestine movement did.
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CADE_FOSTER
01/21/25 12:04:48 PM
#75:


But I'm not sure about Kamala Palestinians are not going to exist by this time next year
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Tmaster148
01/21/25 12:05:02 PM
#76:


Kain_Highwind posted...
"Pwetty pwease Mr Twump can you not be a Repubwican?"

Do you see how stupid this sounds?

So it's fine to protest democrats and get people to not vote for them. But it crosses the line if it's a republican.

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WingsOfGood
01/21/25 12:05:58 PM
#77:


when you are more worried about holding one over Biden and by extension Kamala

than actually putting the person into office who might help the Palestinian people

aka not actually caring about the people but your moral highground
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Deej
01/21/25 12:09:52 PM
#78:


Both sides are the same, but also only one side is worth protesting, because the other side would never change its mind
Also also you shouldn't vote for the side that would potentially change its mind, because reasons

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HashtagSEP
01/21/25 12:11:17 PM
#79:


Kain_Highwind posted...
okay I forgot a single post I made a week ago sue me

I'm not sure why people always think "Oh lol I didn't remember my trolling so sue me" is a good response.

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Kain_Highwind
01/21/25 12:13:26 PM
#80:


HashtagSEP posted...
I'm not sure why people always think "Oh lol I didn't remember my trolling so sue me" is a good response.
"trolling"

yeah sure

keep wondering why teh dems keep losing the elections that should be easiest to win

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HashtagSEP
01/21/25 12:16:00 PM
#81:


Kain_Highwind posted...
"trolling"

yeah sure

keep wondering why teh dems keep losing the elections that should be easiest to win

Oh, so it wasn't trolling? You really were just trying to give Trump credit for the ceasefire and gloat about it?

Okay. That's probably even worse.

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emblem-man
01/21/25 12:17:32 PM
#82:


Kain_Highwind posted...
shut the fuck up

Therew as no reason to protest Trump because that's like protesting a brick wall. Literally no chance of him changing his mind, while there was with Harris



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Kain_Highwind
01/21/25 12:18:28 PM
#83:


HashtagSEP posted...
Oh, so it wasn't trolling? You really were just trying to give Trump credit for the ceasefire and gloat about it?

Okay. That's probably even worse.
I'm disappointed int he liberals for blowing the easiest election ever

Losing to an 80 year old dementia patient fascist shouldn't be possible but here we are

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WingsOfGood
01/21/25 12:19:36 PM
#84:


Kain_Highwind posted...


keep wondering why teh dems keep losing the elections that should be easiest to win

so protesting the dems makes them lose

hmmm

what would happen if you protest the repubs instead?

oh maybe the point was to make the dems lose
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Kain_Highwind
01/21/25 12:20:34 PM
#85:


WingsOfGood posted...
so protesting the dems makes them lose

hmmm

what would happen if you protest the repubs instead?

oh maybe the point was to make the dems lose
who said i wanted the dems to lose

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Tmaster148
01/21/25 12:21:29 PM
#86:


WingsOfGood posted...
so protesting the dems makes them lose

hmmm

what would happen if you protest the repubs instead?

oh maybe the point was to make the dems lose

It's literally this meme:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9ece810f.jpg
They spent all this time making Harris out to be a villain while ignoring the threat of Trump and then want to complain that Dems lost an "easy" election when they spent no effort in fighting against Trump.

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BlackScythe0
01/21/25 12:21:30 PM
#87:


HashtagSEP posted...
Oh, so it wasn't trolling? You really were just trying to give Trump credit for the ceasefire and gloat about it?

Okay. That's probably even worse.

Trump supporters give him credit for everything good and blame bad stuff on anyone else.
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Kain_Highwind
01/21/25 12:22:43 PM
#88:


Tmaster148 posted...
It's literally this meme:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9ece810f.jpg
They spent all this time making Harris out to be a villain while ignoring the threat of Trump and then want to complain that Dems lost an "easy" election when they spent no effort in fighting against Trump.
Getting the Dems to condemn genocide was fighting against Trump

I was always saying they would win in a landslide if they pushed back against Israel and would lose if they didn't and look

Guess I was right

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Kain_Highwind
01/21/25 12:23:16 PM
#89:


But liberals dont wanna take any responsibility and keep the same positions they always have while saying "MAYBE THE REPUBLICANS SHOULD CHANGE YOU SHOULD PROTEST THEM INSTEAD"

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HashtagSEP
01/21/25 12:24:06 PM
#90:


Kain_Highwind posted...
Getting the Dems to condemn genocide was fighting against Trump

I was always saying they would win in a landslide if they pushed back against Israel and would lose if they didn't and look

Guess I was right

So, wait. Are the protest voters responsible or not? You say this is why Trump won, but then you also say there weren't enough protest voters to change the outcome.

Which is it?

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Foppe
01/21/25 12:24:36 PM
#91:


...so when Israel breaks the ceasefire and USA continues to support them with firearms, can we start calling him Genocide Trump?

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Tmaster148
01/21/25 12:24:39 PM
#92:


Kain_Highwind posted...
Getting the Dems to condemn genocide was fighting against Trump

I was always saying they would win in a landslide if they pushed back against Israel and would lose if they didn't and look

Guess I was right

You already said it was pointless to protest Trump, because he wasn't going to change his mind. You already forfeited the fight against him. You simply only fought the dems and the dems lost because you ignored the larger threat.

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legendary_zell
01/21/25 12:24:43 PM
#93:


I told people to vote for Harris, but understood why they couldn't bring themselves to do that. I don't think that decided the election, but if it did that was a strategic mistake by both the Harris campaign and protest voters/abstainers that will have terrible consequences.

Biden facilitated a genocide.

Trump will accelerate it.

These are the facts and you discredit yourselves by asserting that everyone with these factual stances secretly wanted Trump to win.

Protesting is not going to do anything now unless it's big enough to shut down society and be immune to repression. There will have to be a shift to other tactics, namely shutting down the infrastructure facilitating the war. Which is probably always the thing most likely to work.

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WingsOfGood
01/21/25 12:24:56 PM
#94:


Kain_Highwind posted...
But liberals dont wanna take any responsibility and keep the same positions they always have while saying "MAYBE THE REPUBLICANS SHOULD CHANGE YOU SHOULD PROTEST THEM INSTEAD"

no the point is people protesting has consequences

Kamala had to deal with idiots shouting at her in her rally and she responded to them

Trump did not

imagine if Trump did, he might not have won

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Kain_Highwind
01/21/25 12:25:03 PM
#95:


HashtagSEP posted...
So, wait. Are the protest voters responsible or not? You say this is why Trump won, but then you also say there weren't enough protest voters to change the outcome.

Which is it?
They failed in changing the dems mind so no they didn't work cause the dems are stubborn

That's on dnc leadership, not the protests

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LightSnake
01/21/25 12:25:10 PM
#96:


Kain_Highwind posted...
But liberals dont wanna take any responsibility and keep the same positions they always have while saying "MAYBE THE REPUBLICANS SHOULD CHANGE YOU SHOULD PROTEST THEM INSTEAD"

Maybe you should, actually. What happened to "protest is about society and disruption!" Seems to go away the second people suggest maybe protesting the right wing every single time.

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legendary_zell
01/21/25 12:25:37 PM
#97:


Foppe posted...
...so when Israel breaks the ceasefire and USA continues to support them with firearms, can we start calling him Genocide Trump?

Yes.

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WingsOfGood
01/21/25 12:26:07 PM
#98:


Foppe posted...
...so when Israel breaks the ceasefire and USA continues to support them with firearms, can we start calling him Genocide Trump?

when he starts deporting Palestinians Americans, even citizens

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Kain_Highwind
01/21/25 12:26:07 PM
#99:


WingsOfGood posted...
no the point is people protesting has consequences

Kamala had to deal with idiots shouting at her in her rally and she responded to them

Trump did not

imagine if Trump did, he might not have won

but if you wanted Trump to win then it makes sense why you wouldn't try to tank his optics and rather do it for Kamala
Protesting trump at his rallies wouldn't cause him to lose

maga cultists are zombies - their minds won't change
trump would ignore them - his mind wouldn't change

dems can be pressured from time to time

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CADE_FOSTER
01/21/25 12:26:25 PM
#100:


If you didn't vote for Kamala this is your fault end of
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loafy013
01/21/25 12:26:35 PM
#101:


Kain_Highwind posted...
Getting the Dems to condemn genocide was fighting against Trump
And that was done by discouraging people to vote for Harris.

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LightSnake
01/21/25 12:27:01 PM
#102:


legendary_zell posted...
Yes.

They're not going to. Much of the pasty communists who screamed "Genocide Joe" are just going "tee hee we're smol beans" or just dropping it entirely, just like they were dead silent about Trump's foreign policy for years.


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