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WingsOfGood 01/22/25 6:04:22 PM #52: |
WingsOfGood posted... the act was a congressional bill now what if a private sector violated the law would his DOJ go after them? my guess is no so essentially this is like a signal to them they don't have to follow that law anyways ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CobraGT 01/22/25 6:04:31 PM #53: |
Wow! Does this interfere with states rights? Many states have DEI. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 01/22/25 6:05:04 PM #54: |
Westernwolf4 posted... I agree that it is useful to keep in mind the difference between laws and executive orders and that Trump cant just repeal existing laws. if a company violates the Equal Employment Opportunity Act of 1965 who prosecutes them? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smiffwilm 01/22/25 6:06:52 PM #55: |
Necronmon posted... The plan is to take away anything owned by anyone but a rich straight white biological man though.Fixed it. Even a poor white straight biological man will face the consequences as the rest of us. --- My Mario Maker 2 ID is 6RG-5XK-JCG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZaruenKosai 01/22/25 6:07:43 PM #56: |
So their issue with DEI was never about wanting to hjire people based on their merit or talent. It was always about not wanting to hire minorities. Yes we already all knew that, but there were right wingers trying to convince us that minorites would get hired regardless of DEI if they had Skill, but of course, with this happening it's obvious that they want to go back to hiring only white people for the good high paying jobs, and leave the shitty minimum wage, hard labor jobs for the minorities. DEI was always there to right the wrong and rebalance the scales so that Minorites would have an opportunity they would otherwise never have or get , and not because thye are not skilled, but because racist bigots in charge only want to hire white people for the good jobs, and force minorities towards the crappy jobs. In fact, I am sure many bigots would rather hire a less skilled person over a minority. --- RTX 4080 - 7800X3D - LFII 360mm - Enthoo 719/Luxe 2 + 7 140mm ARGB Fans - B650EF - 850w + Plat - 120 Inch Epson 5050UB + 77 Inch S90C OLED ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eat_More_Beef 01/22/25 6:11:14 PM #57: |
LeCh0nk posted... Minorities are generally more racist than white people, especially when they think they're one of the good ones. Shut the fuck up. --- I wrote a horror novel, called "Spare Parts." A whole damn novel! You can check it out, and other free short stories at http://www.aarondeck.com ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Westernwolf4 01/22/25 6:11:40 PM #58: |
WingsOfGood posted... if a company violates the Equal Employment Opportunity Act of 1965 The EEOC. There is an admin process, and the EEOC can enforce the act in federal court. --- An opinion does not turn into a fact simply because the person holding it feels strongly about it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 01/22/25 6:12:12 PM #59: |
ZaruenKosai posted... So their issue with DEI was never about wanting to hjire people based on their merit or talent.Yeah, this is something opponents of DEI, affirmative action, and the like either don't understand, or refuse to. Without these programs in place, the guys in charge--often rich White men--will just hire White men regardless of their skill (or lack thereof) and based solely on nepotism or connections (or just being a White male). --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Melchar 01/22/25 6:13:04 PM #61: |
WingsOfGood posted... if a company violates the Equal Employment Opportunity Act of 1965Actually they will probably be happy to prosecute them. In that way, they can take it to the Supreme Court and get the hold thing deemed unconstitutional and thrown out. --- Nothing can happen 'till you swing the bat. The Internet Makes You Stupid ... Copied to Clipboard!
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621 01/22/25 6:13:11 PM #62: |
Westernwolf4 posted... The EEOC. There is an admin process, and the EEOC can enforce the act in federal court. will that committee still be around, though? I'd imagine trump would want to get rid of it for being "woke". or at least replace the people there --- Allmind exists for all mercenaries. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 01/22/25 6:19:50 PM #64: |
Westernwolf4 posted... The EEOC. There is an admin process, and the EEOC can enforce the act in federal court. about that... https://www.eeoc.gov/commission The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) is a bipartisan Commission comprised of five presidentially appointed members, including the Chair, Vice Chair, and three Commissioners. The Chair is responsible for the administration and implementation of policy for and the financial management and organizational development of the Commission. The Vice Chair and the Commissioners participate equally in the development and approval of Commission policies, issue charges of discrimination where appropriate, and authorize the filing of suits. In addition to the Commissioners, the President appoints a General Counsel to support the Commission and provide direction, coordination, and supervision to the EEOC's litigation program. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cynrascal 01/22/25 6:20:31 PM #65: |
But, how would this decrease the price of eggs? --- Asocial, not introverted. Know the difference. Maybe those JRPGs villains were on to something about humanity being trash. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 01/22/25 6:20:59 PM #66: |
621 posted... will that committee still be around, though? I'd imagine trump would want to get rid of it for being "woke". or at least replace the people there Trump appoints the people in charge of it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sandalorn 01/22/25 6:23:11 PM #67: |
Hey guys....we've been told not to Fear Monger about this stuff by the super smart club so... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Melchar 01/22/25 6:24:47 PM #68: |
Cynrascal posted... But, how would this decrease the price of eggs?Funny you should mention that, I just got back from the store and eggs were 10 cents for a dozen. Also everything was in black and white, everyone was wearing fedoras, all of the women were chaste and traditional, and there were only white people. Unfortunately for me I am hispanic though so I began to fade away and had to go home before that got any worse. I'm still a little transparent. All worth it though for the American dream becoming a reality again! --- Nothing can happen 'till you swing the bat. The Internet Makes You Stupid ... Copied to Clipboard!
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havean776 01/22/25 6:26:48 PM #69: |
Sandalorn posted... Hey guys....we've been told not to Fear Monger about this stuff by the super smart club so...Yeah guys stop being such downers! You're killing my mood! --- "I will either find a way, or make one." Hannibal Barca ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 01/22/25 6:27:45 PM #70: |
Melchar posted... Funny you should mention that, I just got back from the store and eggs were 10 cents for a dozen. Also everything was in black and white, everyone was wearing fedoras, all of the women were chaste and traditional, and there were only white people. Unfortunately for me I am hispanic though so I began to fade away and had to go home before that got any worse. I'm still a little transparent. All worth it though for the American dream becoming a reality again! thanks you for your sacrifice! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Westernwolf4 01/22/25 6:29:17 PM #71: |
WingsOfGood posted... about that... Yeah, but the EEOC was created by the Civil Rights Act, to enforce the Civil Rights Act initially. To get rid of it, you again have a problem that it is in a law that can only be amended by Congress. Trump may be able to mess with it, but he cant just submit an EO getting rid of it. I have to say though, after reading more I could be wrong in the first place that EEOC has jurisdiction over this fact. I assumed it did because its purpose is to enforce all laws relating to federal employment discrimination. And I already knew it covered the Civil Rights Act and the Rehabilitation Act, which is a pretty wide swath. But reading further, I dont see this act, I didnt see it as one it was charged with enforcing. I have been a lawyer for 20 years, but employment law is not one of my areas of practice, so I shouldnt speak out of turn. My thoughts on this area should be taken with a grain of salt. I do know that Trump cant simply revoke laws with EOs. Sadly, I think Congress is going to do much of what he wants, so,.. --- An opinion does not turn into a fact simply because the person holding it feels strongly about it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephirothe 01/22/25 6:29:34 PM #72: |
Does this mean companies can now refuse to hire someone on the grounds that they are white and/or Christian? Asking for a friend. And cause Id low-key love to see that happen, and the epic temper tantrums that it will surely cause. And because itll certainly make a statement about why laws/policies like the EEOA exist, should exist, and are beneficial that Im (maybe optimistically) hoping might get through to people --- "It would imply the regeneration of mankind, if they were to become elevated enough to truly worship sticks and stones" - Henry David Thoreau ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkace77450 01/22/25 6:31:28 PM #73: |
Another win for Project 2025. Obama being elected triggered a rise in white grievance that will ultimately doom this county. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Melchar 01/22/25 6:31:34 PM #74: |
Sephirothe posted... Does this mean companies can now refuse to hire someone on the grounds that they are white and/or Christian? Asking for a friend. And cause Id low-key love to see that happen, and the epic temper tantrums that it will surely cause. And because itll certainly make a statement about why laws/policies like the EEOA exist, should exist, and are beneficial that Im (maybe optimistically) hoping might get through to peopleNo you can't do that because it would be racist towards white people. --- Nothing can happen 'till you swing the bat. The Internet Makes You Stupid ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 01/22/25 6:34:26 PM #76: |
I never understood why equal opportunity act/civil rights made white people feel like they were being discriminated against. --- I want you to grab your nuts. Grab your balls. I want you to take a handful, and just grab your nuts real quick. Swivel 'em around in a circular motion. -LTG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 01/22/25 6:35:27 PM #77: |
LightningAce11 posted... I never understood why equal opportunity act/civil rights made white people feel like they were being discriminated against. because when you've been privileged your whole life, equality starts to feel "unfair" --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Necronmon 01/22/25 6:36:04 PM #78: |
I never understood why equal opportunity act/civil rights made white people feel like they were being discriminated against. Privilege is everything to them, if they are not instantly better then everyone just for existing then then they are feeling outrage every second till" everyone gives them the respect they deserve. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 01/22/25 6:37:22 PM #79: |
Westernwolf4 posted... Yeah, but the EEOC was created by the Civil Rights Act, to enforce the Civil Rights Act initially. To get rid of it, you again have a problem that it is in a law that can only be amended by Congress. Trump may be able to mess with it, but he cant just submit an EO getting rid of it. my point is Trump is over the prosecuting bodies whether it be the DoJ or the EEOC he appoints the guys over them so he now signals the government will act his way in this bill this thread is about if a private sector business follows the same, the burden to prosecute falls to Trump appointments... meaning.... but maybe senate does block it, we will see ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 01/22/25 6:39:16 PM #80: |
Sephirothe posted... Does this mean companies can now refuse to hire someone on the grounds that they are white and/or Christian? Asking for a friend. And cause Id low-key love to see that happen, and the epic temper tantrums that it will surely cause. And because itll certainly make a statement about why laws/policies like the EEOA exist, should exist, and are beneficial that Im (maybe optimistically) hoping might get through to people do that and Trump himself will be after you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Westernwolf4 01/22/25 6:41:06 PM #81: |
WingsOfGood posted... my point is Trump is over the prosecuting bodies whether it be the DoJ or the EEOC Oh, I absolutely get your point. I just wanted to emphasize that Trump cant just create law out of thin air. But dont get me wrong-I recognize this is bad any way you slice it. --- An opinion does not turn into a fact simply because the person holding it feels strongly about it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 01/22/25 6:41:11 PM #82: |
Another win for the non voters and third party protest voters. --- "I dreamt I was a moron." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 01/22/25 6:44:40 PM #83: |
darkace77450 posted... Another win for Project 2025.Sometimes I wonder if we elected a Black man as President too early. Not that I'm opposed to a Black President at all (I voted for Obama both times), but in 2008, America still had lingering racial resentment following the Civil Rights movement of the 1950's and prior, and his election absolutely ignited a powder keg of White anger that led to Trump being elected the first time, and then being reelected with a vengeance. --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toonstrack 01/22/25 6:44:42 PM #84: |
Robot2600 posted... no, i don't think they can, to be honest. they probably still have to make up some excuse or say you didnt feel like a good fit for the office culture or something weak like that. If you're in an at will state like me they barely have to provide a reason at all --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthEnvoy 01/22/25 6:45:14 PM #85: |
This absolute fucking moron is really gonna set the US back 100 years and it's only been 2 days. I'm not sure the country will even still be around by the end of his term. Assuming there is an end since "You won't have to vote anymore!" --- I disposed of doubt long ago. This will be a day long remembered. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SAlYAN 01/22/25 6:45:41 PM #86: |
Westernwolf4 posted... Trump may be able to mess with it, but he cant just submit an EO getting rid of it.People keep saying this, or some variation therein. "He can't do X with just an executive order." To everyone parroting this: who the hell os going to stop him? When has "not being allowed to do something" EVER stopped him? What, is Congress gonna stop him? Good luck; he's already burying them in so much bullshit to review that they'll never keep pace. And are we seriously going to count on republican defectors to keep this shit at bay? Yeah. OK. The courts? You mean the ones he's fucking stacked, top to bottom? "Well, so long as it's challenged, he can't enforce it." Gee. Wouldn't it be a shame if he had a 931 page document telling him exactly how to staff every agency with sycophants to let him bypass that and act quickly, with impunity? Wouldn't it be a shame if he filled his advisor positions with all the people who WROTE that fucking document? Stop preening about checks and balances; more than anything else, Trump has shown us just how much of our government was held together with Gentlemen's Agreements. Our entire system is being blown wide open, in real time, and there's not a damn person around to stop it. --- Doesn't take a lot of brains to be a good fighter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 01/22/25 6:46:30 PM #87: |
Solar_Crimson posted... Sometimes I wonder if we elected a Black man as President too early. Not that I'm opposed to a Black President at all (I voted for Obama both times), but in 2008, America still had lingering racial resentment following the Civil Rights movement of the 1950's and prior. It will always be "too early" for bigots. These people were always vile. They just was given an excuse to take the mask off. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 01/22/25 6:49:42 PM #88: |
SAlYAN posted... People keep saying this, or some variation therein. "He can't do X with just an executive order."Yup this guy says the same thing, we're fucked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVTSGYLgGPI I can't imagine where we'll be by December of next year but one thing's certain, everybody not rich and white will have a shitload less rights and a lot of them will either be in camps or jail cells or dead from no longer being able to afford medical treatments --- A worthless existence ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GhostFaceLeaks 01/22/25 6:52:12 PM #89: |
tremain07 posted... I can't imagine where we'll be by December of next year but one thing's certain, everybody not rich and white will have a shitload less rights and a lot of them will either be in camps or jail cells or dead from no longer being able to afford medical treatments It's more likely he's going to make orders to have anyone who is in these affected groups as well as those who voted against him to be shot by cops and the military. That is what'll be inevitable. --- "Do you like Scary movies?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Necronmon 01/22/25 6:54:35 PM #90: |
It's more likely he's going to make orders to have anyone who is in these affected groups as well as those who voted against him to be shot by cops and the military. That is what'll be inevitable. Even Putin has not gone THAT extreme. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 01/22/25 6:57:36 PM #91: |
Necronmon posted... Even Putin has not gone THAT extreme.He's not modeling his administration after Putin. He's modeling it after Orban. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Accolon 01/22/25 6:58:02 PM #92: |
Tyranthraxus posted... He's not modeling his administration after Putin. He's modeling it after Hitler. --- http://i.imgur.com/XAMp8.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Westernwolf4 01/22/25 7:04:06 PM #93: |
SAlYAN posted... People keep saying this, or some variation therein. "He can't do X with just an executive order." If you read the rest of my post and the ones after, you would know I am not doing any of the things you describe here. I am glad I made a convenient springboard for you though. --- An opinion does not turn into a fact simply because the person holding it feels strongly about it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSj4Wingzero 01/22/25 7:06:56 PM #94: |
Sephirothe posted... Does this mean companies can now refuse to hire someone on the grounds that they are white and/or Christian? Asking for a friend. And cause Id low-key love to see that happen, and the epic temper tantrums that it will surely cause. And because itll certainly make a statement about why laws/policies like the EEOA exist, should exist, and are beneficial that Im (maybe optimistically) hoping might get through to people It's absolutely going to happen, but the evangelicals will just bomb that business, since they've conveniently ignored the "thou shalt not kill" part of the Bible unless it applies to babies that aren't even fully-formed humans yet Solar_Crimson posted... Sometimes I wonder if we elected a Black man as President too early. Not that I'm opposed to a Black President at all (I voted for Obama both times), but in 2008, America still had lingering racial resentment following the Civil Rights movement of the 1950's and prior, and his election absolutely ignited a powder keg of White anger that led to Trump being elected the first time, and then being reelected with a vengeance. What ended too early was Reconstruction. The Southern states should have been treated as occupied enemy territories for another 30 years. The former leaders of the Confederacy should have been tried and shot. Anyone who served in the Confederate States' legislature or upper-echelon of military leadership should have had their property confiscated and given to Black Americans. --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Necronmon 01/22/25 7:09:40 PM #95: |
What ended too early was Reconstruction. The Southern states should have been treated as occupied enemy territories for another 30 years. The former leaders of the Confederacy should have been tried and shot. Anyone who served in the Confederate States' legislature or upper-echelon of military leadership should have had their property confiscated and given to Black Americans. I wonder how much would have changed if "Honest Abe" lived through the war. We had horrible presidents take over after major wars and make things so much worst then if the ones before them were still alive. But we seen time and again that at least in America, once the fighting is over the powers at be just wanted to go back to the status quo and half ass the after math. They just wanted things to " calm down" so they half assed the after math of the Civil War. After World War one they just wanted things to calm down so they did not protest things much and that led to WW2, and then in ww2 we were to tired to finish Russia after Hitler and thus we got the Cold War. And after the Cold War we just assumed Russia was done and they came back and destroyed us. The lesson is, never bother with treaties its never over till the enemy is completely eradicated, its never over till then. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 01/22/25 7:13:23 PM #96: |
Wow he's evil. --- "So this is how liberty dies, with Thunderous applause." Padme Amidala ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSj4Wingzero 01/22/25 7:26:00 PM #97: |
Necronmon posted... I wonder how much would have changed if "Honest Abe" lived through the war. We had horrible presidents take over after major wars and make things so much worst then if the ones before them were still alive. Lincoln's "ten percent plan" was incredibly lenient. He was OK with letting states back into the union as long as 10% of the populace swore allegiance to the union. The "Radical Republicans" were the few who actually gave a shit about Black people, but the Radical Republicans were voted out by newly-wealthy Northern industrialists who profited from the second Industrial Revolution and cared more about money than about civil rights. --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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littlebro07 01/22/25 8:17:46 PM #98: |
God I wish I could live in the alternate universe where Trump didnt turn his head at the exact right moment. --- https://i.imgtc.com/MGGa6Os.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 01/22/25 8:24:15 PM #99: |
SAlYAN posted... People keep saying this, or some variation therein. "He can't do X with just an executive order."Agreed, but you're slightly wrong on the courts and that's our only sliver of hope. While the the supreme court is somewhat stacked, Biden placed a fuck ton of federal judges himself. So it's not stacked top to bottom. --- THE Ohio State: 14-2 National CHAMPIONS | Las Vegas Raiders: 4-13 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rexdragon125 01/22/25 8:30:31 PM #100: |
ssjevot posted... Already did that. You must have missed the memo. We let the executive gain more and more power for decades and all warnings were dismissed. This is a leopards ate my face moment for most of America. Remember when we let Obama assassinate American citizens with drone strikes? That's a great precedent that I am sure will not get abused.Reminder that the military purge EO is still in the queue. Then his cabinet wants him to invoke the Insurrection Act ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deyestus 01/22/25 8:34:53 PM #101: |
SAlYAN posted... People keep saying this, or some variation therein. "He can't do X with just an executive order."So basically, we just give up and accept our fate? FUCK THAT! --- "America...is a lie." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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havean776 01/22/25 8:37:47 PM #102: |
Deyestus posted... So basically, we just give up and accept our fate? FUCK THAT!What would you have us do? It's the second fucking day and he is already setting up to destroy America. We have no seneate no Supreme Court not fucking anything. Soon the miltary will be Trump yes men. What do you want us to do? --- "I will either find a way, or make one." Hannibal Barca ... Copied to Clipboard!
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