Board 8 > MCU General 19: Could the MCU be Born Again?

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Johnbobb 05/04/25 1:30:31 AM #152:	FFDragon posted... Probably ~~because she didn't matter. And never mattered.~~ ~~but if that's the case she just shouldn't be in the movie~~ --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs <cite>Johnbobb posted [p:984946774] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>FFDragon posted... </cite><quote>Probably because she didn't matter. And never mattered.</quote>but if that's the case she just shouldn't be in the movie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 05/04/25 4:46:03 AM #153:	colliding posted... no one needs to watch Iron Fist I saw the first three episodes, real slow. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:984947686] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>colliding posted... </cite><quote>no one needs to watch Iron Fist</quote>I saw the first three episodes, real slow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mega_Mana 05/04/25 8:20:56 AM #154:	Because she represented what this life had become for Yelena. A useful tool going places and doing things and would meet her end without fanfare to a bullet in the head. She even comments with an emptiness in her voice about the death after, like that's what she expects in her future. Taskmaster is less a character because of this, but it's not the first time. Crossbones went the same way; a sub-character with great fight scenes and mirroring the protagonist that could lead to bigger things, but instead is killed off in Act One to shift to the real plot. --- "if you get a meatblock and a digdogger block in the same dungeon is that a hotdogger block" - Cokes on Z1R, go Para Para <cite>Mega_Mana posted [p:984948446] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Because she represented what this life had become for Yelena. A useful tool going places and doing things and would meet her end without fanfare to a bullet in the head. She even comments with an emptiness in her voice about the death after, like that's what she expects in her future.Taskmaster is less a character because of this, but it's not the first time. Crossbones went the same way; a sub-character with great fight scenes and mirroring the protagonist that could lead to bigger things, but instead is killed off in Act One to shift to the real plot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 05/04/25 1:16:10 PM #155:	MCU Taskmaster sucks and who gives a fuck what happens to her. Just an utterly nothing character that is just a prop for the theme of Black Widow. There's absolutely nothing interesting about the character. And that isn't even getting into how it's a waste of the outstanding comic book version of the character. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:984950592] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>MCU Taskmaster sucks and who gives a fuck what happens to her. Just an utterly nothing character that is just a prop for the theme of Black Widow. There's absolutely nothing interesting about the character.And that isn't even getting into how it's a waste of the outstanding comic book version of the character.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mnk 05/05/25 12:25:29 AM #156:	v_charon posted... I personally loved it. It felt like it had the heart that a lot of the more recent additions (Deadpool aside) offerings from Marvel have had. The character interactions are the star of this, and I feel like they're really well done. ~~I really loved Sentry as well, very tragic while also being very sinister. The moment where Red Guardian is talking to the little girl and she's voided away was really shocking to me.~~ ~~There was a huge collective gasp in my theater when that happened.~~ --- Change is weird. <cite>mnk posted [p:984956547] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>v_charon posted... </cite><quote>I personally loved it. It felt like it had the heart that a lot of the more recent additions (Deadpool aside) offerings from Marvel have had. The character interactions are the star of this, and I feel like they're really well done. I really loved Sentry as well, very tragic while also being very sinister. The moment where Red Guardian is talking to the little girl and she's voided away was really shocking to me.</quote>There was a huge collective gasp in my theater when that happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 05/05/25 12:37:35 PM #157:	So uh, I guess this isn't a spoiler anymore but I'll spoil it anyway. They're just outright changing the title of the movie to New Avengers everywhere on the official social media platforms? Like they're calling the movie New Avengers and everything instead of Thunderbolts. Why not just call it New Avengers from the jump? Just end my suffering. I still haven't seen it yet but I'm going to begrudgingly watch it and probably enjoy it and still think it's a total misstep and misusage of the Thunderbolts. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:984960884] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>So uh, I guess this isn't a spoiler anymore but I'll spoil it anyway.They're just outright changing the title of the movie to New Avengers everywhere on the official social media platforms? Like they're calling the movie New Avengers and everything instead of Thunderbolts. Why not just call it New Avengers from the jump? Just end my suffering.I still haven't seen it yet but I'm going to begrudgingly watch it and probably enjoy it and still think it's a total misstep and misusage of the Thunderbolts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bryans7 05/05/25 2:05:04 PM #158:	Saw it last night. Pretty good. Solid 8/10. Don't really have much to say about it, it was enjoyable. On the last end credits scene: ~~It was filmed 4 weeks ago, on the set of Doomsday by the Russos.~~ --- https://i.imgur.com/zBZVUai.jpg <cite>bryans7 posted [p:984961830] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Saw it last night. Pretty good. Solid 8/10. Don't really have much to say about it, it was enjoyable.On the last end credits scene: It was filmed 4 weeks ago, on the set of Doomsday by the Russos.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 05/05/25 2:05:59 PM #159:	Maybe that's why the title had an asterisk! --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:984961844] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Maybe that's why the title had an asterisk! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackDra90n 05/05/25 2:17:03 PM #160:	I'm not surprised that they're changing their marketing but it feels a bit early. --- http://psnprofiles.com/Drayxs <cite>BlackDra90n posted [p:984961997] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>I'm not surprised that they're changing their marketing but it feels a bit early.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mega_Mana 05/05/25 2:34:18 PM #161:	bryans7 posted... Saw it last night. Pretty good. Solid 8/10. Don't really have much to say about it, it was enjoyable. On the last end credits scene: ~~It was filmed 4 weeks ago, on the set of Doomsday by the Russos.~~ That's another quibble. Why Fourteen Months Later? I get on a timeline scale why, but they do not feel like a team that's been together anywhere close to that length of time in the scene. Walker's shield is still scuffed and bent without even a PR paint job, Yelena acts like it's their first week in the Watchtower, and, like, this is still the entire team and dynamic? Like, Guardians 3 had ~~a look at the future team and it was a future team! Updated costumes and rosters and dynamics and Groot. Here it just... feels as false a time jump as this post-Blip MCU.~~ --- "if you get a meatblock and a digdogger block in the same dungeon is that a hotdogger block" - Cokes on Z1R, go Para Para <cite>Mega_Mana posted [p:984962308] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>bryans7 posted... </cite><quote>Saw it last night. Pretty good. Solid 8/10. Don't really have much to say about it, it was enjoyable.On the last end credits scene: It was filmed 4 weeks ago, on the set of Doomsday by the Russos.</quote>That's another quibble. Why Fourteen Months Later? I get on a timeline scale why, but they do not feel like a team that's been together anywhere close to that length of time in the scene. Walker's shield is still scuffed and bent without even a PR paint job, Yelena acts like it's their first week in the Watchtower, and, like, this is still the entire team and dynamic? Like, Guardians 3 had a look at the future team and it was a future team! Updated costumes and rosters and dynamics and Groot. Here it just... feels as false a time jump as this post-Blip MCU.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grand_Kirby 05/05/25 2:50:15 PM #162:	I saw the new marketing and just laughed and laughed. Movies are so broken now. --- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan <cite>Grand_Kirby posted [p:984962504] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>I saw the new marketing and just laughed and laughed. Movies are so broken now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 05/05/25 4:50:34 PM #163:	"I'm sorry, I was on meth!" Great movie AND the MCU's first canonical meth user. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:984963923] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>"I'm sorry, I was on meth!"Great movie AND the MCU's first canonical meth user. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 05/06/25 5:51:09 PM #164:	Thunderbolts* Thoughts Definitely the best since Guardians 3, which isn't really saying a lot. I think it's probably better than any other Phase 4 or 5 films (including Spider-Man: No Way Home, which I'm not a fan of). Bucky and Yelena both ruled. The rest of the crew were definitely still on a lower level of likability, but they weren't annoying or completely irrelevant, so kudos to the director/writing team (I note that there's only two writers on this film, compared to five on the last two MCU projects). All that being said, I didn't love the ending sequence - a little too Persona 4 for my taste. Like I get that they weren't going to beat the Void through punching or a mcguffin or something, but it's still the second MCU movie in a row now where the conflict is resolved through basically therapy-lite / accepting your emotions or whatever. Also the speed at which this movie ends is so strange. Regarding the end credits scene: a 14 months timeskip is a wild decision that doesn't really make sense. I have no real clue about the actual MCU timeline, but I don't see the point unless this movie was supposed to take place earlier than it actually does (but it doesn't, because it makes a reference to brave new world and the President). Maybe Doomsday takes place during that period or something? --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:984976548] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Thunderbolts* ThoughtsDefinitely the best since Guardians 3, which isn't really saying a lot. I think it's probably better than any other Phase 4 or 5 films (including Spider-Man: No Way Home, which I'm not a fan of).Bucky and Yelena both ruled. The rest of the crew were definitely still on a lower level of likability, but they weren't annoying or completely irrelevant, so kudos to the director/writing team (I note that there's only two writers on this film, compared to five on the last two MCU projects). All that being said, I didn't love the ending sequence - a little too Persona 4 for my taste. Like I get that they weren't going to beat the Void through punching or a mcguffin or something, but it's still the second MCU movie in a row now where the conflict is resolved through basically therapy-lite / accepting your emotions or whatever. Also the speed at which this movie ends is so strange. Regarding the end credits scene: a 14 months timeskip is a wild decision that doesn't really make sense. I have no real clue about the actual MCU timeline, but I don't see the point unless this movie was supposed to take place earlier than it actually does (but it doesn't, because it makes a reference to brave new world and the President). Maybe Doomsday takes place during that period or something? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mnk 05/06/25 6:05:53 PM #165:	colliding posted... Thunderbolts* Thoughts Definitely the best since Guardians 3, which isn't really saying a lot. I think it's probably better than any other Phase 4 or 5 films (including Spider-Man: No Way Home, which I'm not a fan of). Bucky and Yelena both ruled. The rest of the crew were definitely still on a lower level of likability, but they weren't annoying or completely irrelevant, so kudos to the director/writing team (I note that there's only two writers on this film, compared to five on the last two MCU projects). All that being said, I didn't love the ending sequence - a little too Persona 4 for my taste. Like I get that they weren't going to beat the Void through punching or a mcguffin or something, but it's still the second MCU movie in a row now where the conflict is resolved through basically therapy-lite / accepting your emotions or whatever. Also the speed at which this movie ends is so strange. Regarding the end credits scene: a 14 months timeskip is a wild decision that doesn't really make sense. I have no real clue about the actual MCU timeline, but I don't see the point unless this movie was supposed to take place earlier than it actually does (but it doesn't, because it makes a reference to brave new world and the President). Maybe Doomsday takes place during that two year period or something? Presumably it's just timeskipping the New Avengers to when Doomsday takes place. Fantastic Four is the only other movie coming out before it, and I don't foresee any of them making cameo appearances in Iron Heart or Wonder Man, so we most likely won't be seeing them again before Doomsday. --- Change is weird. <cite>mnk posted [p:984976690] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>colliding posted... </cite><quote>Thunderbolts* ThoughtsDefinitely the best since Guardians 3, which isn't really saying a lot. I think it's probably better than any other Phase 4 or 5 films (including Spider-Man: No Way Home, which I'm not a fan of).Bucky and Yelena both ruled. The rest of the crew were definitely still on a lower level of likability, but they weren't annoying or completely irrelevant, so kudos to the director/writing team (I note that there's only two writers on this film, compared to five on the last two MCU projects). All that being said, I didn't love the ending sequence - a little too Persona 4 for my taste. Like I get that they weren't going to beat the Void through punching or a mcguffin or something, but it's still the second MCU movie in a row now where the conflict is resolved through basically therapy-lite / accepting your emotions or whatever. Also the speed at which this movie ends is so strange. Regarding the end credits scene: a 14 months timeskip is a wild decision that doesn't really make sense. I have no real clue about the actual MCU timeline, but I don't see the point unless this movie was supposed to take place earlier than it actually does (but it doesn't, because it makes a reference to brave new world and the President). Maybe Doomsday takes place during that two year period or something? </quote>Presumably it's just timeskipping the New Avengers to when Doomsday takes place. Fantastic Four is the only other movie coming out before it, and I don't foresee any of them making cameo appearances in Iron Heart or Wonder Man, so we most likely won't be seeing them again before Doomsday.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 05/07/25 5:07:13 AM #166:	People are saying that they are surprised this was more like Guardians of the Galaxy than Suicide Squad, but Sebastian Stan equating the dysfunctional character dynamics to The Breakfast Club gave me that vibe to begin with - never mind The Avengers was like that too. I know it has been more than a decade since either movie but my god. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:984981475] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>People are saying that they are surprised this was more like Guardians of the Galaxy than Suicide Squad, but Sebastian Stan equating the dysfunctional character dynamics to The Breakfast Club gave me that vibe to begin with - never mind The Avengers was like that too. I know it has been more than a decade since either movie but my god.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackDra90n 05/07/25 8:56:34 AM #167:	colliding posted... Regarding the end credits scene: a 14 months timeskip is a wild decision that doesn't really make sense. I have no real clue about the actual MCU timeline, but I don't see the point unless this movie was supposed to take place earlier than it actually does (but it doesn't, because it makes a reference to brave new world and the President). Maybe Doomsday takes place during that period or something? ~~I always imagined that the MCU lives in "real time". Doomsday comes out in like a yearish so that kinda tracks to me.~~ --- http://psnprofiles.com/Drayxs <cite>BlackDra90n posted [p:984982546] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>colliding posted... </cite><quote>Regarding the end credits scene: a 14 months timeskip is a wild decision that doesn't really make sense. I have no real clue about the actual MCU timeline, but I don't see the point unless this movie was supposed to take place earlier than it actually does (but it doesn't, because it makes a reference to brave new world and the President). Maybe Doomsday takes place during that period or something?</quote>I always imagined that the MCU lives in "real time". Doomsday comes out in like a yearish so that kinda tracks to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 05/10/25 3:54:50 PM #168:	Just saw Thunderbolts. Really good. Love the themes of dealing with depression and mental health struggles. Finding the people that can help you get through life. Bring you light. And Yelena/Florence was amazing. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:985021358] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Just saw Thunderbolts. Really good.Love the themes of dealing with depression and mental health struggles. Finding the people that can help you get through life. Bring you light.And Yelena/Florence was amazing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 05/11/25 4:19:17 AM #169:	So from what I gather Thunderbolts is basically if Guardians of the Galaxy was a group therapy session? --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:985027850] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>So from what I gather Thunderbolts is basically if Guardians of the Galaxy was a group therapy session?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aecioo 05/11/25 7:49:24 AM #170:	LinkMarioSamus posted... So from what I gather Thunderbolts is basically if Guardians of the Galaxy was a group therapy session? who did you gather this from --- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ <cite>Aecioo posted [p:985028573] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>LinkMarioSamus posted... </cite><quote>So from what I gather Thunderbolts is basically if Guardians of the Galaxy was a group therapy session?</quote>who did you gather this from</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 05/12/25 4:35:08 AM #171:	From what Ive read about the movie. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:985038267] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>From what Ive read about the movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JustLurking 05/13/25 6:51:48 PM #172:	Jessica Jones officially return for Daredevil Season 2 <cite>JustLurking posted [p:985056120] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Jessica Jones officially return for Daredevil Season 2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 05/13/25 6:52:38 PM #173:	praise the lord MCU is back from the dead --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:985056126] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>praise the lordMCU is back from the dead</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 05/13/25 11:06:43 PM #174:	Now give us Mike Colter and Finn Jones. Give Finn a chance with a better material. Just straight up give us a Heroes for Hire show. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:985058375] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Now give us Mike Colter and Finn Jones. Give Finn a chance with a better material. Just straight up give us a Heroes for Hire show.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 05/14/25 4:05:24 AM #175:	Right after I finished Season 1 no less! No real compunction to move on from there for now. I do find it interesting that the first four Revival Doctors have all played comic book villains. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:985059875] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Right after I finished Season 1 no less! No real compunction to move on from there for now. I do find it interesting that the first four Revival Doctors have all played comic book villains.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Not_an_Owl 05/14/25 12:04:58 PM #176:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpW36ldAqnM Seems like it might be fine? Ryan Coogler's stuff is generally pretty good. --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. <cite>Not_an_Owl posted [p:985063214] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpW36ldAqnMSeems like it might be fine? Ryan Coogler's stuff is generally pretty good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MartinFF7 05/14/25 12:20:46 PM #177:	Not_an_Owl posted... Seems like it might be fine? Ryan Coogler's stuff is generally pretty good. "Executive Producer" doesn't mean anything tbh. The fact this has been on the shelf over 2 1/2 years before releasing now doesn't really instill confidence... Trailer looks good though, yeah. I won't be watching the show but I will mark out if the long-ago casting rumour of ~~Sacha Baron Cohen playing Mephisto~~ actually is true, esp. if they maintain comic accuracy there. <cite>MartinFF7 posted [p:985063406] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Not_an_Owl posted... </cite><quote>Seems like it might be fine? Ryan Coogler's stuff is generally pretty good.</quote>"Executive Producer" doesn't mean anything tbh. The fact this has been on the shelf over 2 1/2 years before releasing now doesn't really instill confidence...Trailer looks good though, yeah. I won't be watching the show but I will mark out if the long-ago casting rumour of Sacha Baron Cohen playing Mephisto actually is true, esp. if they maintain comic accuracy there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 05/14/25 12:29:06 PM #178:	A reminder that Ironheart has always been an awful character and hasn't really improved in the comics, and nobody cares about her for a good reason. I never thought much of her in Wakanda Forever either, so I'm not terribly inspired by this show, and I'm more annoyed that the Hood seems kinda lame in this. And yeah, the way they've treated this show means that they have no faith in it right now either. So temper your excitement. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:985063530] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>A reminder that Ironheart has always been an awful character and hasn't really improved in the comics, and nobody cares about her for a good reason.I never thought much of her in Wakanda Forever either, so I'm not terribly inspired by this show, and I'm more annoyed that the Hood seems kinda lame in this.And yeah, the way they've treated this show means that they have no faith in it right now either. So temper your excitement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
swordz9 05/14/25 12:34:43 PM #179:	Im not sure it has felt like they had faith in a fair amount of the non-movie MCU stuff. Once the box office started getting weaker it felt like they just put less effort into them. Even Daredevil Born Again while enjoyable left some to be desired and before that I feel like it was Loki S2 that got promoted while the stuff in between was kinda just given minimal stuff if anything. I forgot Echo even came out <cite>swordz9 posted [p:985063597] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Im not sure it has felt like they had faith in a fair amount of the non-movie MCU stuff. Once the box office started getting weaker it felt like they just put less effort into them. Even Daredevil Born Again while enjoyable left some to be desired and before that I feel like it was Loki S2 that got promoted while the stuff in between was kinda just given minimal stuff if anything. I forgot Echo even came out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 05/16/25 12:53:34 AM #180:	Alright, my opinion on Thunderbolts after having finally seen it. I know I've been sour on it as a whole since they announced the roster. I think it's pretty over hyped and it's better than a lot of recent stuff, but it just has a lot of issues with it that just keeps it from being truly great. I don't think the depression themes completely landed here in general, and I just think the climax of the movie was half baked in terms of how it delivered on the theme. I think overall it did good with it here and there, but I just don't feel like they really delivered on it with most of the characters. Taking the time to actually develop most of them would have actually helped a lot more. Ghost and Bucky get nothing in this movie, and US Agent gets partial development but they just don't seem interested in giving him any more of it. I dunno, I feel like it's an extremely flawed film and I don't really feel excited about any New Avengers flare because this team kinda sucks? They're just not that interesting. US Agent, Yelena, and Red Guardian carry the load for personality and everyone else is just completely whatever. And power wise it's just not interesting and whatever real Avengers team they make will be many times more interesting because at the very least they'll be a bit diverse. I dunno. Good movie overall but does absolutely nothing to inspire the future of the MCU and I don't really care about seeing this team together again. As a bonus, imagining comics Ghost as an Avenger is so funny. They should've had MCU Ghost be closer to him instead of sarcastic girl number 2. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:985083268] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Alright, my opinion on Thunderbolts after having finally seen it. I know I've been sour on it as a whole since they announced the roster.I think it's pretty over hyped and it's better than a lot of recent stuff, but it just has a lot of issues with it that just keeps it from being truly great.I don't think the depression themes completely landed here in general, and I just think the climax of the movie was half baked in terms of how it delivered on the theme. I think overall it did good with it here and there, but I just don't feel like they really delivered on it with most of the characters. Taking the time to actually develop most of them would have actually helped a lot more. Ghost and Bucky get nothing in this movie, and US Agent gets partial development but they just don't seem interested in giving him any more of it.I dunno, I feel like it's an extremely flawed film and I don't really feel excited about any New Avengers flare because this team kinda sucks? They're just not that interesting. US Agent, Yelena, and Red Guardian carry the load for personality and everyone else is just completely whatever. And power wise it's just not interesting and whatever real Avengers team they make will be many times more interesting because at the very least they'll be a bit diverse.I dunno. Good movie overall but does absolutely nothing to inspire the future of the MCU and I don't really care about seeing this team together again.As a bonus, imagining comics Ghost as an Avenger is so funny. They should've had MCU Ghost be closer to him instead of sarcastic girl number 2.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 05/16/25 9:01:41 AM #181:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... Ghost and Bucky get nothing in this movie I've heard that Ghost was originally going to have a subplot with Taskmaster where they bond over being experiments and Ghost becomes a mentor for her. Then they basically cut Taskmaster from the movie and didn't give Ghost anything to replace that subplot. I really like this team. The characters and their dynamics. But I agree they are a shitty Avengers team. Calling them the Avengers Bteam even seems generous. I think that is intentional though. Them being the New Avengers is literally a publicity stunt. A desperate, unplanned, last second move by Val to stay out of prison. They shouldn't be the Avengers and only got the name because no one was using it. Sam's team will be the obvious real Avengers team and these guys will give up the name and either go back to Thunderbolts or come up with a new name. And then they can focus on being a good guy black ops team, which is what they should be. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:985085151] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite><quote>Ghost and Bucky get nothing in this movie</quote>I've heard that Ghost was originally going to have a subplot with Taskmaster where they bond over being experiments and Ghost becomes a mentor for her. Then they basically cut Taskmaster from the movie and didn't give Ghost anything to replace that subplot.I really like this team. The characters and their dynamics. But I agree they are a shitty Avengers team. Calling them the Avengers Bteam even seems generous. I think that is intentional though. Them being the New Avengers is literally a publicity stunt. A desperate, unplanned, last second move by Val to stay out of prison. They shouldn't be the Avengers and only got the name because no one was using it. Sam's team will be the obvious real Avengers team and these guys will give up the name and either go back to Thunderbolts or come up with a new name. And then they can focus on being a good guy black ops team, which is what they should be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 05/16/25 2:41:55 PM #182:	Bucky had an entire scene in the middle of the movie that was the highlight of the entire film but I guess if you're talking about character development, it's true he didn't really develop. But at this point I'm just happy if cool characters get to do cool things. --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:985088432] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Bucky had an entire scene in the middle of the movie that was the highlight of the entire filmbut I guess if you're talking about character development, it's true he didn't really develop. But at this point I'm just happy if cool characters get to do cool things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 05/16/25 3:05:54 PM #183:	He also already has gone through a ton of development. His only real development in this particular movie had to do with trying to learn how to be a senator. ~~and he basically learns he is terrible at it and goes back to being a hero.~~ --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:985088655] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>He also already has gone through a ton of development. His only real development in this particular movie had to do with trying to learn how to be a senator. and he basically learns he is terrible at it and goes back to being a hero.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 05/16/25 3:19:59 PM #184:	Do you like your avengers with a super soldier? What about a red super soldier? What about a lady super soldier? How about another super soldier? Oh hey this one is tech at least. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:985088802] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Do you like your avengers with a super soldier? What about a red super soldier? What about a lady super soldier? How about another super soldier? Oh hey this one is tech at least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 05/16/25 5:30:30 PM #185:	I feel like there is plenty of room to have Bucky with more development in this film about overcoming depression and your past, as someone who has had to do a lot of that already. Towards the end I thought it absolutely sucked that Bucky said sarcastically that he didn't have a lot of demons in his past and had no problem going through them. At least give us a brief scene where we see him stare down one of his Void visions and say that they won't control him anymore and beast through it easier than the others, and have him trying to help others through it. Also, the whole Senator thing felt half-baked as well. Did I miss something where we even know why he wanted to become a Senator in the first place? Or grappled with his decision to just throw it aside and realize he was better off being a hero again instead of trying to change things in politics? It feels like there were a couple scenes missing there. It could be as simple as Walker going "If you do this, won't they have to impeach you too?" And Bucky just going "Too late. I already resigned. A Senator can't help with this." There's options and I feel like they just didn't take the time to develop it. I dunno, there's a ton of missed opportunity here, and there's probably a much better script that was hacked to pieces to get to where we ended up. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:985090028] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>I feel like there is plenty of room to have Bucky with more development in this film about overcoming depression and your past, as someone who has had to do a lot of that already.Towards the end I thought it absolutely sucked that Bucky said sarcastically that he didn't have a lot of demons in his past and had no problem going through them. At least give us a brief scene where we see him stare down one of his Void visions and say that they won't control him anymore and beast through it easier than the others, and have him trying to help others through it.Also, the whole Senator thing felt half-baked as well. Did I miss something where we even know why he wanted to become a Senator in the first place? Or grappled with his decision to just throw it aside and realize he was better off being a hero again instead of trying to change things in politics? It feels like there were a couple scenes missing there. It could be as simple as Walker going "If you do this, won't they have to impeach you too?" And Bucky just going "Too late. I already resigned. A Senator can't help with this." There's options and I feel like they just didn't take the time to develop it.I dunno, there's a ton of missed opportunity here, and there's probably a much better script that was hacked to pieces to get to where we ended up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 05/16/25 9:37:18 PM #186:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... Also, the whole Senator thing felt half-baked as well. Did I miss something where we even know why he wanted to become a Senator in the first place? I assumed the Senator stuff all came from the last Cap movie (which i still havent seen). Is that not the case? Was that a reveal in this movie? PrivateBiscuit1 posted... I dunno, there's a ton of missed opportunity here, and there's probably a much better script that was hacked to pieces to get to where we ended up. Almost certainly. For me this was a really good movie that had the potential to be something truly great. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:985092479] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite><quote>Also, the whole Senator thing felt half-baked as well. Did I miss something where we even know why he wanted to become a Senator in the first place?</quote>I assumed the Senator stuff all came from the last Cap movie (which i still havent seen). Is that not the case? Was that a reveal in this movie?PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite><quote>I dunno, there's a ton of missed opportunity here, and there's probably a much better script that was hacked to pieces to get to where we ended up.</quote>Almost certainly. For me this was a really good movie that had the potential to be something truly great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 05/17/25 12:27:00 AM #187:	In Brave New World, I think Bucky says he's either running for Congress or was just elected. I forget. --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:985094115] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>In Brave New World, I think Bucky says he's either running for Congress or was just elected. I forget. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_Rocks 05/17/25 4:49:06 AM #188:	I think Bucky was running for a Brooklyn district in the House. Russian Black Widow mentioned it. FFDragon posted... Do you like your avengers with a super soldier? What about a red super soldier? What about a lady super soldier? How about another super soldier? Oh hey this one is tech at least. Yeah this is what bothers me. It makes the underuse of Ghost so weird. She had the only unique powers in the team and she sucked for most of it. --- Not to be confused with XIII_Minerals. <cite>XIII_Rocks posted [p:985095298] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>I think Bucky was running for a Brooklyn district in the House. Russian Black Widow mentioned it.FFDragon posted... </cite><quote>Do you like your avengers with a super soldier? What about a red super soldier? What about a lady super soldier? How about another super soldier? Oh hey this one is tech at least.</quote>Yeah this is what bothers me. It makes the underuse of Ghost so weird. She had the only unique powers in the team and she sucked for most of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raka_Putra 05/17/25 4:58:50 AM #189:	Just came back from the Thunderbolts. It was pretty fun! I agree that the execution could've been better, but at least there were interesting ideas there. I like Valentina's role in the story. --- God has heard my soul. <cite>Raka_Putra posted [p:985095331] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Just came back from the Thunderbolts. It was pretty fun! I agree that the execution could've been better, but at least there were interesting ideas there. I like Valentina's role in the story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 05/17/25 5:03:02 AM #190:	I genuinely thought Thunderbolts had the possibility to attract a young male audience missing from other recent Marvel movies, but it doesnt seem to be the case. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:985095345] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>I genuinely thought Thunderbolts had the possibility to attract a young male audience missing from other recent Marvel movies, but it doesnt seem to be the case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JonThePenguin 05/22/25 8:34:57 PM #192:	Doomsday and Secret Wars moving to December instead of May https://deadline.com/2025/05/next-avengers-movies-push-release-dates-dog-stars-devil-wears-prada-1236409088/ --- JonThePenguin https://www.backloggery.com/Erunion <cite>JonThePenguin posted [p:985157824] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Doomsday and Secret Wars moving to December instead of Mayhttps://deadline.com/2025/05/next-avengers-movies-push-release-dates-dog-stars-devil-wears-prada-1236409088/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackDra90n 05/28/25 9:14:04 AM #193:	Just finished the first season of Iron Fist. I really wasn't sure about this one when I first started watching it since it seemed like absolutely no one cared for it. It's also about this white dude who learns martial arts in China, which already gets an eye roll from me, and I also didn't like the stuff with the Hand in Daredevil, so my expectations were rock bottom going into this. But it was ok? I mean the action sequences weren't great, the characters are kinda thin and annoying, but if you kinda turn your brain off it's not terrible. The references to the other shows have been the highlight for sure though. I have a hard time deciding between this and Luke Cage for the bottom of my ranking but I think I'd rather watch another season of this than that. Also, I have the same stove as Claire. DD1 > DD2 > JJ1 > IF1 > LC1 Next up is the Defenders. I'm actually kinda looking forward to this one. --- http://psnprofiles.com/Drayxs <cite>BlackDra90n posted [p:985218312] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Just finished the first season of Iron Fist.I really wasn't sure about this one when I first started watching it since it seemed like absolutely no one cared for it. It's also about this white dude who learns martial arts in China, which already gets an eye roll from me, and I also didn't like the stuff with the Hand in Daredevil, so my expectations were rock bottom going into this.But it was ok? I mean the action sequences weren't great, the characters are kinda thin and annoying, but if you kinda turn your brain off it's not terrible. The references to the other shows have been the highlight for sure though. I have a hard time deciding between this and Luke Cage for the bottom of my ranking but I think I'd rather watch another season of this than that.Also, I have the same stove as Claire.DD1 > DD2 > JJ1 > IF1 > LC1Next up is the Defenders. I'm actually kinda looking forward to this one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 05/28/25 1:16:00 PM #194:	I was fine with Iron Fist but I know I'm in rhe minority. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:985220783] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>I was fine with Iron Fist but I know I'm in rhe minority. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mnk 05/28/25 1:34:00 PM #195:	It got better as it went along and I thought Season 2 was decent. Better than Season 1 and both of Luke Cage's and Jessica Jones' Season 2s. --- Change is weird. <cite>mnk posted [p:985220994] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>It got better as it went along and I thought Season 2 was decent. Better than Season 1 and both of Luke Cage's and Jessica Jones' Season 2s.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelesMyUserName 05/28/25 2:35:02 PM #196:	I'm sad we couldn't get the iron fist with guns that s2's ending teased and Iron Fist Colleen --- https://imgtc.ws/i/1LkkaGU.jpg somethin somethin hung somethin horse somethin <cite>CelesMyUserName posted [p:985221740] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>I'm sad we couldn't get the iron fist with guns that s2's ending teasedand Iron Fist Colleen</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mnk 05/28/25 3:07:05 PM #197:	Yeah, I was legitimately excited for what the S2 finale was setting up. --- Change is weird. <cite>mnk posted [p:985222133] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, I was legitimately excited for what the S2 finale was setting up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grimlyn 05/28/25 9:00:35 PM #198:	Cap 4's now on Disney+ --- http://gmun.moe/ffcc GuessMyUserName's account's very own account! <cite>Grimlyn posted [p:985226126] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Cap 4's now on Disney+</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 05/28/25 10:07:06 PM #199:	Grimlyn posted... Cap 4's now on Disney+ Awesome. I can finally watch it. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:985226832] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Grimlyn posted... </cite><quote>Cap 4's now on Disney+</quote>Awesome. I can finally watch it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 05/29/25 4:20:38 AM #200:	I saw the first three episodes of Iron Fist and they were SLOW. I did finish Jessica Jones S1 recently. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:985229242] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>I saw the first three episodes of Iron Fist and they were SLOW.I did finish Jessica Jones S1 recently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seanchan 06/01/25 10:38:15 PM #201:	Maniac64 posted... Awesome. I can finally watch it. I watched it. So glad I didn't bother going to the theaters! It was such a "whatever" movie. --- "That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero) Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020! <cite>Seanchan posted [p:985271086] in MCU Genera... [t:80945487]...</cite> <quote>Maniac64 posted... </cite><quote>Awesome. I can finally watch it.</quote>I watched it. So glad I didn't bother going to the theaters! It was such a "whatever" movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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