Current Events > Is this why rich assholes think your should work more than 40 hours a week?

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Cause they got nothing else to do since all their chores are done by servants.

That plus they count golfing and eating at restaurants as work.

And they want slavery.

Partially, but also the more we work, the more profit they extract from us.

Don't think about anything but work.

seriously, these CEOs really need a punch in the face! 60 hours?? fuck right off dude! smh

Accolon posted...

Partially, but also the more we work, the more profit they extract from us.

This is the main reason.

Whether they think their lives are normal or not is irrelevant. I mean, I know a little about the horrible labor situation in the parts of the world we outsource labor to, but I'm not boycotting.

They dont actually work those hours they just want people under them to.

Luigi

Detached from reality since birth. They have no idea what it means to live a normal life and they don't care to learn.

This is so dumb cause it's proven that WFH and less hours actually increase productivity. Like studies were done.

They're just idiots who think more hours = more money so the idea of less hours worked vexes them.

12-hour days...

You know Republicans will vote this for themselves... and everyone else.

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Their job is telling people what to do. I could easily do that for 60 hours a week.

I mean they get richer on your productivity. They also aren't doing all the other chores and tasks that you need to do to keep your life moving (laundry, cooking, cleaning, childcare, house repair, etc). They also aren't doing the back breaking or brain numbing labor that their employees have to do day in and day out.

I feel like the world should be ready for and justified in a 35 hour workweek.

The eight hour workday was inspired by splitting time three equal ways:
Labor
Rest
Recreation

But in the modern world, this is a joke. Commute times alone average like an hour a day. That should go in the labor bucket. I'm not suggesting we start paying people for their commute (as that's all kinds of insanity), but in terms of time, that's been cut out of the rest and recreation buckets when it simply doesn't belong there. A seven hour workday would largely compensate for that with a broad brush. Sure, not everyone has the same commute time, and this remains a perk of home location. But then again, not everybody needs eight hours of sleep. The best you can do is an aggregate, and one hour sounds about right to me.

Its necessary for some jobs but idk why the ceo of tech companys like google thinks its necessary for them.

I work about 60 on weekdays + 12 on weekends

Groceries indeed feel out of the way

Yeah its like equal parts them being psychotic, being out of touch, and wanting people to be miserable which wears them down and makes them easier to control.

Personally we should really be striving for a 32-hour work week.

These people don't work at all, they do nothing but get richer

rexcrk posted...

Yeah its like equal parts them being psychotic, being out of touch, and wanting people to be miserable which wears them down and makes them easier to control.

Personally we should really be striving for a 32-hour work week.

In other, more advanced nations, this is exactly what they are moving to.

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/21/1158507132/uk-study-companies-four-day-workweek

And it's been spreading throughout the EU.

The "American bubble" is really gaslighting people in the US about this... and everything else.

Tom_Joad posted...

In other, more advanced nations, this is exactly what they are moving to.

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/21/1158507132/uk-study-companies-four-day-workweek

And it's been spreading throughout the EU.

The "American bubble" is really gaslighting people in the US about this... and everything else.

I remember when we were the civilized world.

Exactly. A friend of my mom worked as a babysitter for a rich family. She was supposed to get the kids ready for school, then watch them after school till the dad got home. They were paying her like $50 a day because it was only an hour before school and 2 after.

But what they actually wanted was for her to stay all day while kids were at school, clean their house, do their laundry, wash the dishes, go to their shopping for them and put it away. Get the kids after school, help them with homework, cook dinner for the family, play with the kids, read to them, bathe them, and our turn to bed.

All while the Mom was there not working. She'd go lock herself in the bedroom when the kids got home because she didn't want to interrupt her TV shows for the kids. Later they decided it would be easier for mom's friend to just move in and go it all from their place. They framed it as helping her save gas money and time, but they really just wanted a servant.

She asked for a raise and they got mad at her, and said it was unfair of her after everything they did for her. So she told them she would only do what she was hired to do. She sent the kids off to school each morning and then left, came back to get them off the bus and feed them till the dad got home and she left. That lasted about a month before they couldn't handle it and the house was a disaster, they asked her to start doing all the work again, and she asked for the raise again. Said when she gets the raise she'll do the work. They argued with her for a while, but ultimately decided to give her the raise. So when they told her they'd pay her more to be a live in housekeeper, she quit. lol

Just left them high and dry, and walked away with the satisfaction that they caved before she did.

KogaSteelfang posted...

She'd go lick herself in the bedroom

I got a admit, it took me a second to figure out this was a typo.

ReturnOfDevsman posted...

I got a admit, it took me a second to figure out this was a typo.

Dang, thought I corrected it quick enough.

I think one thing that is wild is that they often use the productivity scale, but productivity isn't about worker productivity, it's dollar value productivity.

So when investments like new equipment, larger workforce and higher wages help secure higher productivity.

"Productivity measures the efficiency with which an economy transforms inputs into outputs. Statistics Canada produces summary statistics to capture various aspects of this process."

The US tends to get high productivity because of investments and capital acquisitions. I'm not sure, but I tend to feel that the US productivity model doesn't tell the whole story.

What it isn't: Hours worked. People working harder. Literal output in a day.

Because you exist to be exploited, not to exist.

Ya. Fuck that, Most Execs when they say they work 40-60 hours a week no problem dont tend to mention that they "Work" From home, Some of that work is just golfing with friends and other business men, or going to lunches and dinners, And really just not actual work at all

or in Elon's case he probably counts shitposting on twitter as work

No, its because they get rich of exploiting people's labor.

Raiden2909 posted...

Ya. Fuck that, Most Execs when they say they work 40-60 hours a week no problem dont tend to mention that they "Work" From home, Some of that work is just golfing with friends and other business men, or going to lunches and dinners, And really just not actual work at all

or in Elon's case he probably counts shitposting on twitter as work

This. The "jobs" of the filthy rich are not work as in any normal job. They don't have to answer to anyone, and how hard can it possibly be to just rake in the riches that society showers on the filthy rich for being filthy rich?

It's not just that they delegate everything, it's also being extremely generous with the definition of "work".

Everyone could "work" 60 hour weeks when 45 of them are schmoozing networking events, shit posting opinion pieces, and golf

Southernfatman posted...

That plus they count golfing and eating at restaurants as work.

And they want slavery.

This
I remember someone posting an article here where they had CEOs log what they did all day. They had shit like going to the gym as part of their 12 hour day. It consisted of like 5 hours of doing anything that could be legit work.

Jiek_Fafn posted...

I remember someone posting an article here where they had CEOs log what they did all day. They had shit like going to the gym as part of their 12 hour day. It consisted of like 5 hours of doing anything that could be legit work.

"It's important for my wellness and work output!"

"Cool, so you give all your employees paid breaks for exercise and healthcare stuff like that? It would improve employee retention and happiness."

"well no i uh i mean SECURITY"

Over working people makes them less productive.

I'll never understand the mindset of people who praise the rich. Most of societies woes can be traced back to them.

nocturnal_traveler posted...

I'll never understand the mindset of people who praise the rich. Most of societies woes can be traced back to them.

If the delusion of most in the US that they are "temporarily embarrassed billionaires" could be broken, we might actually be able to do something about the Trump/GOP menace.

Yeah, a 32 hour work week feels so much better than 40. Less fatigue and stress can even improve work output, while having an extra day for one's personal affairs makes it far easier to manage everything. But the US will keep a death-grip on 40+...

nocturnal_traveler posted...

I'll never understand the mindset of people who praise the rich. Most of societies woes can be traced back to them.

Those people think of capitalism as a force of nature and the hierarchies that exist within it are likewise natural. The people at the top who are wealthy and powerful deserve to be there and the people at the bottom who are poor and downtrodden deserve to be there.

What started out as flimsy justification for outrageous compensation has become malicious roleplay. I'm sure some are that out of touch with reality, but I'm no longer giving them the benefit of the doubt that they don't realize the 5 hours of "executive time" they give themselves every day isn't work. The "sweet spot" is how much they can overwork a single person to keep them from even thinking about what life is besides work.

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That smug face says it all.

Electrical General Foreman here.

productivity for us decreases at after 8 hours in a day.

these are 40 hour weeks. Myself, with my commute, by Friday Im absolutely cooked mentally and physically.

I average 17k steps a day.

I would welcome 32 hour work weeks.