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https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706

Evangelicals Are Now Rejecting 'Liberal' Teachings of Jesus

An evangelical leader is warning that conservative Christians are now rejecting the teachings of Jesus as "liberal talking points."

Russell Moore, former top official for the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) who is now the editor-in-chief of Christianity Today, said during an interview aired on NPR's All Things Considered this week that Christianity is in a "crisis" due to the current state of right-wing politics.

Moore has found himself at odds with other evangelical leaders due to his frequent criticism of former President Donald Trump. He resigned his position with the SBC in 2021 following friction over his views on Trump and a sex abuse crisis among Southern Baptist clergy.

In his NPR interview, Moore suggested that Trump had transformed the political landscape in the U.S. to the point where some Christian conservatives are openly denouncing a central doctrine of their religion as being too "weak" and "liberal" for their liking.

"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching'turn the other cheek'[and] to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those liberal talking points?'" Moore said.

"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis."

Moore went to to say that he did not think it would be possible to "fix" Christianity by "fighting a war for the soul of evangelicalism," urging his concerned brethren to instead fight "small and local" battles like refusing to go along with the current "church culture."

Newsweek reached out for comment to the SBC via online press contact form on Wednesday evening.

During an interview with Semafor last month, Moore warned that Trump posed "a unique threat, both to American institutions and to the church's witness." He added that he had provided political and spiritual advice to candidates running against Trump in the 2024 GOP presidential primary.

Evangelicals are a key voting block for Republicans. Exit polls of the 2020 presidential election indicated that up to 81 percent of white evangelical Protestant voters cast ballots for Trump over then-future President Joe Biden, according to Gallup.

During an interview on conservative network Real America's Voice in January, Trump lashed out at certain evangelical leaders that he said displayed a "great disloyalty" by being reluctant to back his 2024 presidential run.

"That's a sign of disloyalty," Trump complained. "There's nobody that did more for the movement than I have. And that includes the movement of evangelicals and Christians and the movement very much of 'right to life.'"

Its happening

Deport him!

Then they should not be calling themselves "Christians" anymore.

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Surely this will be when the true Christians split from this ideology of hatred.

if that's how they feel, then don't follow his teachings.

just don't consider yourself Christian anymore.

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Old news, but certainly something that people need to be reminded of a lot these days.

Christianity is great, but man i can go without those fucking Christians.

They like the Bible for the bigoted parts not the rest.

How is it a recent development, its not like the Crusades or the Inquisition or Protestant/Catholic wars of religion were stellar models for the teachings of Jesus.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Christianity is great, but man i can go without those fucking Christians.

"I like your Christ. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Gandhi, when asked about Christianity.

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This is really old news. That article is from 2023.

yeah this is from 2 years ago. we know this already. they don't give a fuck about christianity, really. Trump is their god, MAGA is their religion.

Christianity was only ever a good guy badge for the Fox News crowd: a way to pretend they were decent when they were actually all rotten inside.

It asks too much of them... they're lazy and entitled and sure as hell don't want to better themselves or suffer for their faith. Much easier to pretend they're being persecuted because the people they consider to be undesirables are still allowed to exist.

Things like this make me wish heaven and hell exist.

I know I'd be going to hell, but the idea of seeing all those so called Christians getting rejected and sent to hell before me would make the torment worth it.

This is what the Bible was warning about with people calling evil "good" and vice versa, and twisting the teachings of Christ, btw. Not atheists like Christianity wants you to believe, but people who call themselves Christians but act nothing like how they're supposed to act. The moment you question God or Jesus Christ you are no longer a legitimate Christian.

as said this is old news

but it is still super depressing

and its a reminder that even thoe this predated the election these people did nothing to try and turn things arround

they kept the hate train going

Jesus is too WOKE! ~ Christians probably

Its so funny that this is exactly what the Bible and Quran described as the signs of the anti-Christ/Dajjal. Not that Im religious but its 100% on purpose since theyre trying to speed run to the end of times and go to heaven.

Ironically enough, the non-believers and the so called "undesirables" have a better chance of getting into heaven then like 99% of Christians do.

Hope they keep that same energy when they meet the Big Man upstairs to give an accounting of all they ever did on Earth. Something tells me they will be weeping and gnashing their teeth though.

boxoto posted...

if that's how they feel, then don't follow his teachings.

Most of them already don't.

Agent_Stroud posted...

Hope they keep that same energy when they meet the Big Man upstairs to give an accounting of all they ever did on Earth. Something tells me they will be weeping and gnashing their teeth though.

St. Peter: Hmmm...I see here you kept talking about Christian values, yet your actions depicted the exact opposite. Very peculiar...

"Christian": Yeah well those values are woke. I don't agree with them!

St. Peter: I see...so then you are not actually a Christian.

"Christian": How DARE you! I'm a hardcore Christian and have been my entire life!!! You're just some woke liberal trying to demonize and persecute me!!!

St. Peter: *looks back* Pull the hell lever, we got another one.

"Christian": No wait.....!

Holy_Cloud105 posted...

Its so funny that this is exactly what the Bible and Quran described as the signs of the anti-Christ/Dajjal. Not that Im religious but its 100% on purpose since theyre trying to speed run to the end of times and go to heaven.

ive said similar before

if the anti christ was real he would not be targeting none believers

he would be aiming to convert as many believers as possible

Wow. This is rich. You cultists purport to be Christians. It's in your fucking name. If you're not following his teachings or whatever, what even are you? Cherry pickers, that's what. Following loosely in his footsteps so you can virtue signal when it suits you, but rejecting his word because it doesn't fit your preconceived narrative. Cultists make me sick.

Solar_Crimson posted...

Most of them already don't.

truu

They should follow the gourd instead.

Silly Christians.

SecretBase posted...

They like the Bible for the bigoted parts not the rest.

Kind of like they like the Bill of Rights for the second amendment and not the rest. Shall not infringe is sacrosanct, but due process and free speech are optional.

darkace77450 posted...

Kind of like they like the Bill of Rights for the second amendment and not the rest. Shall not infringe is sacrosanct, but due process and free speech are optional.

And even then, they've also demonstrated that they only want the second amendment for themselves. See: The conservative response to the Black Panthers open-carrying.

one of the biggest tenets of Christianity is lying is bad

it is so bad that the scripture gives no excuse for it at all in saying ALL liars go to hell
ALL meaning even tiny lies though some may debate this somewhat the principle is undeniable

however it reiterates that Satan is the father of lies and the author of Chaos

Jesus said he is truth, he said the truth shall set you free, Pilot mocked Jesus asking what is truth

now imagine said Christians being in deep love with Trump

Jesus also said no man can serve two masters for he will hate the one and love the other

I watched a youtube video this morning with some religionist whining about alleged Christian persecution in America. And all he did was jump to bat for neo-nazis like the pillow guy because they got "canceled". And of course threw around words like "woke", "marxism", and "communism" without having a clue what those words mean. I don't know why Christians in America have the most idiotic spokespeople. Most of my family are Christians and they are good people who are nothing like these Trump cultists.

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Strider102 posted...

Ironically enough, the non-believers and the so called "undesirables" have a better chance of getting into heaven then like 99% of Christians do.

Which is wild as fuck because non believers don't even have access to heaven as an afterlife option.

Unknown5uspect posted...

Which is wild as fuck because non believers don't even have access to heaven as an afterlife option.

I'm agnostic, but wouldn't it be hilarious if any higher power didn't really care if people believed in them, but rather their actual morality and how they treated their fellow humans?

Imagine so many of these hypocritical Christians being denied heaven but seeing non believers and the like being admitted freely if they treated others well.

Lord_of_BeefDip posted...

I'm agnostic, but wouldn't it be hilarious if any higher power didn't really care if people believed in them, but rather their actual morality and how they treated their fellow humans?

Imagine so many of these hypocritical Christians being denied heaven but seeing non believers and the like being admitted freely if they treated others well.

Spoilers for Narnia series: Thats what happens in the last book. Aslan tells that one Tash worshipper that, essentially, his heart was in the right place because he was devoted to Tash because he thought it was the right thing and thus was in reality devoted to Aslan and just used the wrong name. It was his deeds, and not his beliefs, that earned him a place in the eternal Narnia. And other characters were the converse - denied because they prayed to Aslan but did evil things.

Lord_of_BeefDip posted...

I'm agnostic, but wouldn't it be hilarious if any higher power didn't really care if people believed in them, but rather their actual morality and how they treated their fellow humans?

Imagine so many of these hypocritical Christians being denied heaven but seeing non believers and the like being admitted freely if they treated others well.

Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.

~Marcus Aurelius

It was never about religion, just like lgbt hate and abortion hate was never about kids

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American Christians haven't followed Christianity in, like... ever.

Lord_of_BeefDip posted...

I'm agnostic, but wouldn't it be hilarious if any higher power didn't really care if people believed in them, but rather their actual morality and how they treated their fellow humans?

Honestly, that's how it should be, and I hope that--if there is a higher power--that's how things are set up.

At this point, they're probably like "Anything in red ink = ignore". I'm going to get angsty here, but religion and especially Christianity got us here anyway. It helped get people used to believing in contradictions, accepting the word of one person as truth and law despite said contradictions, accepting the unfairness of the world, bigotry, and the general distrust and hatred of people that are different. There's a reason why they keep pushing it on kids in schools and so on.

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There are good Christians out there for sure, but they're the minority at this point if not always.

There's a rare few that seem to try and follow it 'correctly'

Sadly a vast majority now only do it to have a sense of belonging and feel better about their daily hatred after a 1-2 hour weekly purging of sitting and listening. Even that brief window is now too woke and hard to digest.
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If you reject the teachings of Christ, are you really a Christian?

I will maintain that one cannot claim to be a Christian if they actively voted for and/or support Trump as the ideologies are incompatible.

Can't we make them read all chick tracts?

Southernfatman posted...

At this point, they're probably like "Anything in red ink = ignore". I'm going to get angsty here, but religion and especially Christianity got us here anyway. It helped get people used to believing in contradictions, accepting the word of one person as truth and law despite said contradictions, accepting the unfairness of the world, bigotry, and the general distrust and hatred of people that are different. There's a reason why they keep pushing it on kids in schools and so on.

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There are good Christians out there for sure, but they're the minority at this point if not always.

Christ condemned the Pharisees, and many religious leaders act just like them. No wonder his words are ignored