Current Events > Is Stephen King on the list?

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Most people had no idea who Epstein was in 2011, so there's not much a PR issue. Maybe Gates is just like almost every other techbro in the world and he doesn't actually care much about sexual assault.

The answer is Epstein was a predator who had more resources than most. You still see people hang out with Russell Brand and Diddy and Tate. MeToo wasn't until 2017

Idk man, Roger Stone couldn't.

You're making it sound like he and Epstein had this super close connection. They didn't. They met in 2011, cooperated on some charitable ventures for a few years. The most I can find is Epstein may have threatened to expose Gates' affair with a bridge player

Also, how much did Gates throw away? he's still super rich, influential...he transitioned out of Microsoft in 2006, well before he met Epstein. His memoir just came out, he got the French Medal of Freedom...Gates hasn't lost much of anything.

If you know someone is a child sex trafficker and youre still hanging out with them for years, for any purpose, then thats a closer connection than most have ever had. Gates wealth meant he didnt need Epstein at all for charity. Charity that he states didnt even materialize.

Thats the thing, once you have oligarch money its impossible to lose. Musk can cosplay chan Nazi and theres nothing that can be done about his wealth without governments straight up taking it.

But Gates lost his marriage, then his board seat at both Microsoft and Berkshire in 2020, his remaining stock, and a permanent mark on his image due to his time with Epstein.

Thats much an oligarch can lose.

Bill Gatess 2020 resignation from Microsofts board of directors came after the board hired a law firm to investigate a romantic relationship he had with a Microsoft employee, according to new reporting from the Wall Street Journal.
Citing people familiar with the matter, the Journal reported Sunday that a Microsoft engineer had alleged in a letter that she had a sexual relationship over years with Mr. Gates.
During the probe, some board members decided it was no longer suitable for Mr. Gates to sit as a director at the software company he started and led for decades, the Journal reported. Mr. Gates resigned before the boards investigation was completed.
The employee was not named in the Journals article. CNN has not confirmed the allegations cited by the Journal.
Microsoft received a concern in the latter half of 2019 that Bill Gates sought to initiate an intimate relationship with a company employee in the year 2000, a Microsoft spokesperson confirmed to CNN Business late Sunday. A committee of the Board reviewed the concern, aided by an outside law firm, to conduct a thorough investigation. Throughout the investigation, Microsoft provided extensive support to the employee who raised the concern.

Stephen King specifically? A lot of drugs.

Epstein was charged and convicted for sex with a teenager. I'm not sure he knew he was a traffickr there, either.

What exactly is the specter being raised here? That Epstein was so powerful he could make Gates forego his usual carefully constructed PR? That he worked for people that powerful?

He didn't 'need' Epstein there, but Epstein had a reputation for philanthropy by then, too. Gates does a lot of charity with people he doesn't need.

He's still well regarded, still receiving accolades. His memoirs have been published

And if the rumors of Epstein blackmailing him about an affair are true, well...I think that answers questions, too. And his stepping away from the boards?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/16/tech/bill-gates-allegations
It seems more likely it was due to adultery than "Bill Gates' Epstein ties."

I also do think oligarchs can lose plenty else. Just ask Sam Bankman Fried or Harvey Weinstein

He knew. If you want to pretend he didnt, fine. Im still not chilling with a powerful creep convicted of messing with 14 year olds.

Im just asking why he would. Thats what I cant get past. Accepting well just cuz he did ok what of it is a greater logical leap than any of the conspiracy theories.

A reputation of trafficking minors too. Gates does indeed do a lot of shady things under the guise of charity.

He has a well funded PR machine, Ive already stated that. Which makes it more puzzling why hed leave this mark for allegedly nothing.

Its widely reported that his time with Epstein was a major factor in his divorce and early into it.

Then you look at the timing of this investigation over something from 20 years prior. It only finally came to light as he was flubbing interviews about his time with Epstein. Its common to see powerful people finally held accountable for sex scandals only after theyre already on their way out.

These arent even close to oligarchs. Bankman was a new kid on the block barely billionaire that scammed other barely billionaires. Weinstein had less wealth than most pro athletes.

Bezos, Zuck, Musk, Gates, etc those are oligarchs.

Yeah, but Groening is a major Fox executive and creative, who's the creator of a major TV phenomenon and works heavily in show biz. there's nothing indicating King ever flew on Epstein's plane or attended a party with him. It's just a different type of celebrity.

If there's evidence, I'm not aware of or if something else is released, definitely tag me tho

I don't think that contradicts what I said? He's a successful writer. He's not an executive. He barely leaves Maine to begin with.

Thats actually a scary thought to know that the Master of Horror is lurking up in the same state that Far Harbor from Fallout 4 is based on. Im honestly surprised that Bethesda didnt include an Easter Egg to King or one of his works in that DLC.

The worst thing he's ever done is Maximum Overdrive and that's not gonna change.

Stephen King is not a pedophile. He's had a 50 year writing career, there'd be some rumor or something if he was a sex predator.

he wrote child porn.

Thats actually a scary thought to know that the Master of Horror is lurking up in the same state that Far Harbor from Fallout 4 is based on. Im honestly surprised that Bethesda didnt include an Easter Egg to King or one of his works in that DLC.

how do you guys not see yourselves getting crazier

he did write that scene where all the kids ran a train on that girl in IT...

Look, I totally get thinking the scene in IT went too far and wasn't well done. I think even he agrees at this point.

It's not CSAM.

yeah, the scene involving little kids having sex isn't child sexual abuse material

get fucking real

I'm pretty sure he's trying to say that if there was an Epstein client list, someone would have leaked it by now.

yeah, the scene involving little kids having sex isn't child sexual abuse material

get fucking real

how is it

Whether "the average person, applying contemporary community standards", would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest,

Whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct or excretory functions specifically defined by applicable state law,

Whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a4XX7NCY1d8

Stephen King never misses an opportunity to shit talk trump so this is very sus

You really shouldn't draw a direct line between what a character says in a work of fiction and the author's personal feelings or beliefs.

I pulled Bag of Bones off the shelf and that line is a little weird and out of place, at least with me forgetting the context of the rest of the book. He does immediately think her mother is trailer trash a page or two later though, so I think it's intended to just be general disdain for people living in the area.

That makes sense. It's a nasty, but common enough way to insult people who are considered 'trashy', uneducated, or lower class. There's no hint of sexual desire in the text.

On the other hand, when he first sees the girl's mother, he thinks she's twelve or thirteen.

And then later in the book, they get together.

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I don't know the book, so I can't really say much.