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I go to church because of my family and relatives, but I would probably classify myself as agnostic.

Im a huge Biology geek, and the current scientific consensus on the history of life is so different from any religious story of creation, that I can only dismiss most of the Old Testament as fiction.

However, I keep an open mind. A god could mean something like a person who has put us in a simulation, or an extraterrestrial from a Type IV civilisation on the Kardashev scale. So, I cant be completely atheist.

Christian, but not affiliated with anything organized.

Agnostic igtheist theological noncognitivist atheist.

just a heads up, agnostic is a description, not a view.

so applied it'd tend to describe theists or atheists. an agnostic theist may believe in an unconfirmed god and an agnostic atheist may not deny the existence of god

i am a gnostic atheist, which in practice means i deny the existence of god

i worship the flying spaghetti monster. taking communion is delicious.

I'm a life long atheist.

I was raised by non-religious parents, so God and religion wasn't something that I thought about at all as a child. Once I was old enough to start thinking about those things for myself it all seemed pretty stupid and illogical and it was obvious that religion was just another man made system to control people.

agnostic, more or less.

There's enough commonalities in the mythos and not enough contrary evidence to entirely disprove that some form of creator figure exists, but at the same time there's also nothing to suggest they're anything more than ambivalent towards humanity at best.

So, live and let live, I think.

Christians call science a religion

it do believe in supernatural ( infinite density, dark matter )

tao's not a religion it's just the way things are but that

Catholic

Agnostic leaning atheist mainly. I believe that if there's a god or "god", it is in no way like any of the ones from human religion. I'm very anti-religion in general. It has done far more harm than good and continues to do so.

Other: pagan

Nah

I was raised Catholic because of my mom but she stopped supporting the church when the whole child abuse coverup thing happened, and the habit never really stuck.

I voted Islam cuz thats my background and I still keep some muslim traditions and rituals, but Im agnostic. I dont think anything supernatural is real, but i remain open and hopeful.

Truth is im working on making my own religion. No supernatural beliefs required. But im not seeking converts or anything. Just a fun project.

Dungeater posted...

just a heads up, agnostic is a description, not a view.

so applied it'd tend to describe theists or atheists. an agnostic theist may believe in an unconfirmed god and an agnostic atheist may not deny the existence of god

i am a gnostic atheist, which in practice means i deny the existence of god

You can be agnostic and not know either way.

Agnostic, but heavily leaning atheist.

Satanist

Jagus posted...

You can be agnostic and not know either way.

Gnostic/Agnostic refers to knowledge while Theist/Atheist refers to belief. Whether you like it or not, knowledge is a spectrum and people tend to swing to one belief or the other.

My dog tags in the Navy just said "NO PREF" for no religious preference.

No matter how you use the word agnostic it's not mutually exclusive with atheism. I guess it's fine to separate them since some people prefer to identify as agnostic.

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Prestoff posted...

Gnostic/Agnostic refers to knowledge while Theist/Atheist refers to belief. Whether you like it or not, knowledge is a spectrum and people tend to swing to one belief or the other.

Sometimes People use agnostic to mean they neither confirm nor deny the existence of gods. Practical meaning is different from latin origins.

Jagus posted...

Sometimes People use agnostic to mean they neither confirm nor deny the existence of gods. Practical meaning is different from latin origins.

People can label themselves however they want, and I get that especially if you don't want to be associated with either group, but I always like to inform people that Gnostic/Agnostic is not mutually exclusive from Atheism/Theism.

Prestoff posted...

People can label themselves however they want, and I get that especially if you don't want to be associated with either group, but I always like to inform people that Gnostic/Agnostic is not mutually exclusive from Atheism/Theism.

Oh, im aware agnostic theists and atheists exist. I agree with that.

Agnostic Atheist.

I dont believe in a deity, but I acknowledge that I dont know that for 100% certain. That said, Im going to need hard proof to actually believe in a deity.

Jagus posted...

You can be agnostic and not know either way.

i dont see how you can be agnostic without being one or the other. even if completely non committal thatd still just be agnostic atheist

asdf8562 posted...

Agnostic Atheist.

I dont believe in a deity, but I acknowledge that I dont know that for 100% certain. That said, Im going to need hard proof to actually believe in a deity.

Same. The only gods i keep are ideas or principles.

Dungeater posted...

i dont see how you can be agnostic without being one or the other. even if completely non committal thatd still just be agnostic atheist

no it wouldnt cuz thats denying the existence of gods. You can be neutral, indifferent, or skeptical

Religion has its own set of problems unto itself. However it's the people that make religion worse.

Jagus posted...

no it wouldnt cuz thats denying the existence of gods. You can be neutral, indifferent, or skeptical

An agnostic atheist does not believe in gods. They are not denying the existence of gods. Agnostic atheist is neutral.

Dungeater posted...

An agnostic atheist does not believe in gods. They are not denying the existence of gods. Agnostic atheist is neutral.

I think it's just down to the label that people want to put themselves in. Claiming you're a Christian does have the negative connotation of the Conservative/Republican/MAGA rep while claiming you're an atheist does have the negative connotation of being a Redditor Euphoric/Edgy/Fedora rep. I'm fine just so long as people do know that Gnostism/Agnosticism is not mutually exclusive from Atheism/Theism.

Dungeater posted...

An agnostic atheist does not believe in gods. They are not denying the existence of gods. Agnostic atheist is neutral.

That is denying the existence of gods. Thats why they identify as agnostic atheist specifically. they see no evidence for gods existence. Thats the same as saying you dont think gods exist.

Jagus posted...

That is denying the existence of gods

no it is not - it is the lack of belief in gods. like, this one isnt up to interpretation. call yourself whatever you want. but this is untrue.

Prestoff posted...

I think it's just down to the label that people want to put themselves in. Claiming you're a Christian does have the negative connotation of the Conservative/Republican/MAGA rep while claiming you're an atheist does have the negative connotation of being a Redditor Euphoric/Edgy/Fedora rep. I'm fine just so long as people do know that Gnostism/Agnosticism is not mutually exclusive from Atheism/Theism.

yea at the end of the day im just trying to correct some persistent misinfo but people can call themselves what they like. i'm not gonna tell someone they're something they arent or vice versa.

Lacking belief is the same thing as denying. Im not saying theyre gnostic atheists. Im saying theyve taken a position theyre open to being wrong.

even if you were right, do you not see the problem with using the same term to describe two different groups of people? What would you call someone who is agnostic but denies the existence of gods then?

Jagus posted...

That is denying the existence of gods. Thats why they identify as agnostic atheist specifically. they see no evidence for gods existence. Thats the same as saying you dont think gods exist.

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Jagus posted...

Lacking belief is the same thing as denying

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i genuinely don't know how to respond to something like this. like,

i'm not insulting you, but like...yeah. i dunno, i'm sorry. have a good day

asdf8562 posted...

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agnostic atheists deny that gods arent real due to lack of evidence and contradictions against them like the problem of evil. They think gods arent real but are open to them being real. It is possible to be agnostic in the sense you have no opinion one way or another.

Dungeater posted...

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i genuinely don't know how to respond to something like this. like,

i'm not insulting you, but like...yeah. i dunno, i'm sorry. have a good day

Buddy you can deny something without being gnostic. Agnostic atheists have chosen a position.

have you ever heard the term false dichotomy or non-binary?

I like to quote the theologian Robert Flint from Agnosticism (1903) because I think he sums up atheism vs. agnosticism and agnostic atheism well.

The atheist is not necessarily a man who says "There is no God." What is called positive or dogmatic atheism, so far from being the only kind of atheism, is the rarest of all kinds. It has often been questioned whether there is any such thing. But every man is an atheist who does not believe that there is a God, although his want of belief may not be rested on any allegation of positive knowledge that there is no God, but simply on one of want of knowledge that there is a God. If a man have failed to find any good reason for believing that there is a God, it is perfectly natural and rational that he should not believe that there is a God; and if so, he is an atheist, although he assume no superhuman knowledge, but merely the ordinary human power of judging of evidence. If he go farther, and, after an investigation into the nature and reach of human knowledge, ending in the conclusion that the existence of God is incapable of proof, cease to believe in it on the ground that he cannot know it to be true, he is an agnostic and also an atheist, an agnostic-atheist an atheist because an agnostic.

My mom was catholic. Her whole family is religious. However, not in such a bad way as most evangelicals in the US are. They're the old type of religious people who do their stuff in private and accept other opinions.

I'm an atheist. Been one since age 10 or so.

i disagree on several accounts. First off, denying gods existence is the most common form of atheism. In lived reality, not theoretical frameworks, agnostic atheists deny gods exist due to lack of supporting evidence and contradictions. They remain open, but theyve taken a position.

it is problematic that instead of your definitions conforming to peoples actual lived experiences, you are forcing false binaries on to people.

people who neither confirm nor deny the existence of gods are not the same as people who think there is no god.

Bro is yapping when nobody cares

Jagus posted...

i disagree on several accounts. First off, denying gods existence is the most common form of atheism. In lived reality, not theoretical frameworks, agnostic atheists deny gods exist due to lack of supporting evidence and contradictions. They remain open, but theyve taken a position.

it is problematic that instead of your definitions conforming to peoples actual lived experiences, you are forcing false binaries on to people.

people who neither confirm nor deny the existence of gods are not the same as people who think there is no god.

Feel free to continue being wrong.

kind9 posted...

Feel free to continue being wrong.

right back at ya buddy. Feel free to continue being unable to understand peoples beliefs.

Man gamefaqs really just is the microcosm of the the world at large in that you can take any poll with options and it just devolves into people arguing about the details and interpretations. This could of been a topic about pizza toppings and it would turn into people arguing about the origins of certain styles, what is or isn't authentic, which ingredients are popular in which regions and why their opinion is the correct one.

Nope. I've been an atheist my entire life.

Jagus posted...

right back at ya buddy. Feel free to continue being unable to understand peoples beliefs.

You're just wrong when you say that non-belief is the same as denial. You affirm or deny a proposition, or you don't do either, in which case you lack belief.

I'm an atheist. The behavior of religious people has been the biggest driver in pushing me from being religious to being agnostic to being atheist.

Discordian

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