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BlackScythe0 10/26/25 1:51:34 PM #51:	Why would I owe Libertarians an apology? Just because Trump wants to be a dictator? That doesn't change the fact that their political ideology is anarchy. Libertarianism is a completely and totally unhinged belief system. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:986844779] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>Why would I owe Libertarians an apology? Just because Trump wants to be a dictator? That doesn't change the fact that their political ideology is anarchy. Libertarianism is a completely and totally unhinged belief system. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 10/26/25 1:53:42 PM #52:	I don't owe libertarians shit --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:986844808] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>I don't owe libertarians shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_AKA_Snoopy 10/26/25 1:55:46 PM #53:	Like all things it is nuanced. I believe the original idea of Libertarianism is the idea that any governance that limits freedom of people is inherently not good. There were debates as to how much governance was needed to ensure people aren't fucked with, but that was it. Some others came around to argue the concept of what freedom actually is (not getting fucked with by anyone versus the ability to actually do what you want) and that splintered Libertarianism into all sorts of offshoots. Most Libertarians today basically want small government because they lucked into massive wealth and don't want a system of governance that takes their money and thus interferes with their whole "Don't fuck with my stuff" mentality. --- Lindsay - Jan 13, 1990 - July 17, 2023 Thank you for fighting the fight for so long for me. <cite>Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted [p:986844831] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>Like all things it is nuanced. I believe the original idea of Libertarianism is the idea that any governance that limits freedom of people is inherently not good. There were debates as to how much governance was needed to ensure people aren't fucked with, but that was it. Some others came around to argue the concept of what freedom actually is (not getting fucked with by anyone versus the ability to actually do what you want) and that splintered Libertarianism into all sorts of offshoots. Most Libertarians today basically want small government because they lucked into massive wealth and don't want a system of governance that takes their money and thus interferes with their whole "Don't fuck with my stuff" mentality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 10/26/25 1:56:02 PM #54:	Evening_Dragon posted... Also, actually kind of a tangent, but there's an older segment of... financier(?) libertarians that basically don't use the word how we use it at all. They belief in a social safety net and all that. Classical liberals. Basically what Milton Friedman (who wanted a guaranteed minimum income) and many Republicans of that era were. This was back when people like Hayek still called themselves liberals. Gary Johnson was kind of like that. Probably the last major Republican to fall into that category was Barry Goldwater, who I believe was also the last pro-choice Republican senator (and pretty anti-religion in general). The US is just kind of a mess with political labels though. Liberals in basically every other country are more in line with classical liberalism and conservative parties are often explicitly called liberal. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:986844835] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted... </cite><quote>Also, actually kind of a tangent, but there's an older segment of... financier(?) libertarians that basically don't use the word how we use it at all. They belief in a social safety net and all that.</quote>Classical liberals. Basically what Milton Friedman (who wanted a guaranteed minimum income) and many Republicans of that era were. This was back when people like Hayek still called themselves liberals. Gary Johnson was kind of like that. Probably the last major Republican to fall into that category was Barry Goldwater, who I believe was also the last pro-choice Republican senator (and pretty anti-religion in general). The US is just kind of a mess with political labels though. Liberals in basically every other country are more in line with classical liberalism and conservative parties are often explicitly called liberal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 10/26/25 1:57:19 PM #55:	an unregulated free market runs off human suffering to maximize profit for the ultra wealthy. reducing government size is just code for removing government oversight. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:986844853] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>an unregulated free market runs off human suffering to maximize profit for the ultra wealthy. reducing government size is just code for removing government oversight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 10/26/25 2:07:17 PM #56:	Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted... Like all things it is nuanced. I believe the original idea of Libertarianism is the idea that any governance that limits freedom of people is inherently not good. There were debates as to how much governance was needed to ensure people aren't fucked with, but that was it. Some others came around to argue the concept of what freedom actually is (not getting fucked with by anyone versus the ability to actually do what you want) and that splintered Libertarianism into all sorts of offshoots. Most Libertarians today basically want small government because they lucked into massive wealth and don't want a system of governance that takes their money and thus interferes with their whole "Don't fuck with my stuff" mentality. I don't know many wealthy people, but I do know some Libertarians and none of them are wealthy. They are largely people who reject the reality of human nature and advocate for a lot of positions that basically equate "If you get rid of this then people would be free to do X thing they have no reason to do." It's like trickle down economics "Give all our money to the rich and they will do the right thing with it!" but all they do is save the money or send it over seas because cutting taxes does nothing to encourage them to say pay for an extra cashier they don't need. Libertarianism is like that but more extreme and on basically every aspect of government. They even have tried to experiment on making a utopia. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21534416/free-state-project-new-hampshire-libertarians-matthew-hongoltz-hetling A town they got taken over by bears. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:986844949] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted... </cite><quote>Like all things it is nuanced. I believe the original idea of Libertarianism is the idea that any governance that limits freedom of people is inherently not good. There were debates as to how much governance was needed to ensure people aren't fucked with, but that was it. Some others came around to argue the concept of what freedom actually is (not getting fucked with by anyone versus the ability to actually do what you want) and that splintered Libertarianism into all sorts of offshoots. Most Libertarians today basically want small government because they lucked into massive wealth and don't want a system of governance that takes their money and thus interferes with their whole "Don't fuck with my stuff" mentality.</quote>I don't know many wealthy people, but I do know some Libertarians and none of them are wealthy. They are largely people who reject the reality of human nature and advocate for a lot of positions that basically equate "If you get rid of this then people would be free to do X thing they have no reason to do." It's like trickle down economics "Give all our money to the rich and they will do the right thing with it!" but all they do is save the money or send it over seas because cutting taxes does nothing to encourage them to say pay for an extra cashier they don't need. Libertarianism is like that but more extreme and on basically every aspect of government.They even have tried to experiment on making a utopia.https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21534416/free-state-project-new-hampshire-libertarians-matthew-hongoltz-hetlingA town they got taken over by bears. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 10/26/25 2:21:47 PM #57:	yes, we were right all along --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif https://i.imgur.com/8mWCvA4.gif <cite>FL81 posted [p:986845089] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>yes, we were right all along</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IronTusk 10/26/25 2:24:45 PM #58:	>>> Be Argentina >>> Elect far-right libertarian anarcho-capitalist president Milei >>> Gut government and social programs in attempt to tame inflation causing massive spike in poverty rate >>> Hold out hands for $40B bailout from US <cite>IronTusk posted [p:986845122] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>>>> Be Argentina>>> Elect far-right libertarian anarcho-capitalist president Milei>>> Gut government and social programs in attempt to tame inflation causing massive spike in poverty rate>>> Hold out hands for $40B bailout from US</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spiky_Peahorn 10/26/25 8:52:34 PM #59:	whitelytning posted... No, but libertarianism does offer things both parties should consider today. Everyday there is another example of Trump trying to trample on what should be constitutionally protected rights of individuals. Concepts of smaller government and individual liberty are still important to many people and playing into that could only help the dems. Except most libertarians would happily vote for him... UnsteadyOwl posted... Which is wild because MAGA is not a small government movement. They're right-wing authoritarians. They're all about using the power of a strong central government to push back against a culture that's changing too much for their liking. The problem is Libertarians dont see Trump/MAGA as authoritarian, therefore not "big" government, while at the same time the smallest of Dem-led governments would be considered too big Sadly we are getting more and more people running for local government as Libertarians during elections here in Australia, all of them, no surprise, have changed parties multiple times. Always running with Trump/MAGA style selling points. --- It was clever for a guy who screams like Sindel from Mortal Kombat when he gets angry. - MICHALECOLE <cite>Spiky_Peahorn posted [p:986848642] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>whitelytning posted... </cite><quote>No, but libertarianism does offer things both parties should consider today. Everyday there is another example of Trump trying to trample on what should be constitutionally protected rights of individuals. Concepts of smaller government and individual liberty are still important to many people and playing into that could only help the dems.</quote>Except most libertarians would happily vote for him...UnsteadyOwl posted... </cite><quote>Which is wild because MAGA is not a small government movement. They're right-wing authoritarians. They're all about using the power of a strong central government to push back against a culture that's changing too much for their liking.</quote>The problem is Libertarians dont see Trump/MAGA as authoritarian, therefore not "big" government, while at the same time the smallest of Dem-led governments would be considered too bigSadly we are getting more and more people running for local government as Libertarians during elections here in Australia, all of them, no surprise, have changed parties multiple times. Always running with Trump/MAGA style selling points.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GGuirao13 10/27/25 3:06:43 AM #60:	I don't know enough about Libertarianism to say for sure, but I'd support them as long as they're nothing like Republicans. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>GGuirao13 posted [p:986850879] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>I don't know enough about Libertarianism to say for sure, but I'd support them as long as they're nothing like Republicans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sfcalimari 10/27/25 3:10:24 AM #61:	Daily reminder that libertarians are embarassed Republicans who want what they think is a bulletproof economic excuse for being huge racists. --- I will now sell five copies of the Three EP's by the Beta Band. <cite>sfcalimari posted [p:986850893] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>Daily reminder that libertarians are embarassed Republicans who want what they think is a bulletproof economic excuse for being huge racists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guns_of_Verdun 10/27/25 3:27:19 AM #62:	BlackScythe0 posted... That doesn't change the fact that their political ideology is anarchy There's a big difference between Libertarianism and anarchy dude --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv <cite>Guns_of_Verdun posted [p:986850943] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite><quote>That doesn't change the fact that their political ideology is anarchy</quote>There's a big difference between Libertarianism and anarchy dude </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thanatos_the_Great 10/27/25 5:02:42 AM #63:	Guns_of_Verdun posted... There's a big difference between Libertarianism and anarchy dude Actually there's a lot of overlap between anarchism and libertarianism in the latter's original (and correct) meaning. But yeah, modern US-style "Libertarianism" has nothing to do with anarchism. --- Re-open board 261. <cite>Thanatos_the_Great posted [p:986851207] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>Guns_of_Verdun posted... </cite><quote>There's a big difference between Libertarianism and anarchy dude</quote>Actually there's a lot of overlap between anarchism and libertarianism in the latter's original (and correct) meaning. But yeah, modern US-style "Libertarianism" has nothing to do with anarchism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guns_of_Verdun 10/27/25 8:17:25 AM #64:	Thanatos_the_Great posted... Actually there's a lot of overlap between anarchism and libertarianism in the latter's original (and correct) meaning. But yeah, modern US-style "Libertarianism" has nothing to do with anarchism. Anarchy = no government whatsoever Libertarianism = Severe limits on government with a focus on an unregulated free market and individual freedoms. It's like saying there's overlap between arm amputation and wearing gloves indoors. --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv <cite>Guns_of_Verdun posted [p:986851953] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>Thanatos_the_Great posted... </cite><quote>Actually there's a lot of overlap between anarchism and libertarianism in the latter's original (and correct) meaning. But yeah, modern US-style "Libertarianism" has nothing to do with anarchism.</quote>Anarchy = no government whatsoeverLibertarianism = Severe limits on government with a focus on an unregulated free market and individual freedoms.It's like saying there's overlap between arm amputation and wearing gloves indoors.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 10/27/25 8:20:21 AM #65:	Which libertarians? Massive difference between left-libertarians and "libertarians" who are just Republicans that like weed --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:986851973] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>Which libertarians?Massive difference between left-libertarians and "libertarians" who are just Republicans that like weed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 10/27/25 9:07:11 AM #66:	Libertarian party are either gullible fucks or the rich trying to keep their money. They completely lost the plot when thinking the government is the only limiting factor in our freedom. In America at least, they just let Capitalism slide and pretend that it doesn't limit freedoms itself. They also tend to ignore the social hierarchies that limit freedom, such as white supremacy and patriarchy. If you want to be independent of the State, you gotta build up other structures that replace what the State leverages over us. Medicine, food, infrastructure, community justice, etc. . Libertarians just want to jump to the end goal without putting in that work. Ultimately I want similar goals under a socialist economy, but it's not as easy as voting for a 3rd party. --- Peace Love Dope <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:986852267] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>Libertarian party are either gullible fucks or the rich trying to keep their money. They completely lost the plot when thinking the government is the only limiting factor in our freedom. In America at least, they just let Capitalism slide and pretend that it doesn't limit freedoms itself. They also tend to ignore the social hierarchies that limit freedom, such as white supremacy and patriarchy. If you want to be independent of the State, you gotta build up other structures that replace what the State leverages over us. Medicine, food, infrastructure, community justice, etc. . Libertarians just want to jump to the end goal without putting in that work. Ultimately I want similar goals under a socialist economy, but it's not as easy as voting for a 3rd party. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 10/27/25 9:22:47 AM #68:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Pretty much. It's kind of like the anti-vax movement right now. Where they live in a world where vaccines have provided such massive benefit that they no longer realize the benefit of it because of diminishing returns and therefore think it's no longer needed and want to go back to the before times. Like, their entire schtick when you bring up companies dumping garbage in waters or not providing safety features to prevent accidents is to.... just sue them. It's laughably stupid. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:986852364] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Pretty much. It's kind of like the anti-vax movement right now. Where they live in a world where vaccines have provided such massive benefit that they no longer realize the benefit of it because of diminishing returns and therefore think it's no longer needed and want to go back to the before times.Like, their entire schtick when you bring up companies dumping garbage in waters or not providing safety features to prevent accidents is to.... just sue them. It's laughably stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 10/27/25 9:47:12 AM #70:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Yeah. Anytime I've heard a normal people out in the wild say "Well I'm more of a libertarian!" it's always in this thin idea of "I don't like people telling me what to do." except.... all of these people also exclusively vote republican so they very much DO like people telling them what to do. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:986852547] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Yeah. Anytime I've heard a normal people out in the wild say "Well I'm more of a libertarian!" it's always in this thin idea of "I don't like people telling me what to do." except.... all of these people also exclusively vote republican so they very much DO like people telling them what to do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
aarrgus 10/27/25 10:06:18 AM #71:	These fucking libertarians are the worst of the Donald Dumbass bootlickers. All talk no cattle. --- Last night I was lying in bed, staring at the stars, and I wondered... Where the *** is my roof?* <cite>aarrgus posted [p:986852686] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>These fucking libertarians are the worst of the Donald Dumbass bootlickers. All talk no cattle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guns_of_Verdun 10/27/25 2:42:50 PM #72:	aarrgus posted... These fucking libertarians are the worst of the Donald Dumbass bootlickers. All talk no cattle. Penn Jilette was against Trump in 2015 --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv <cite>Guns_of_Verdun posted [p:986855382] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>aarrgus posted... </cite><quote>These fucking libertarians are the worst of the Donald Dumbass bootlickers. All talk no cattle.</quote>Penn Jilette was against Trump in 2015</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/27/25 2:44:53 PM #73:	Guns_of_Verdun posted... I always used to make fun of them but Democrats and Republicans have given us Reagan, Biden, Bush and their magnus opus, Donald Dumbass. Maybe they were onto something. Government having all this power is dangerous. We make fun of them for being crazy, then elected people who are also crazy but now have untold unchecked power instead of trying to curb it. Maybe humans as a species are just crazy. We don't seem capable of not destroying ourselves over bizarre nonsense. Libertarians would have given us Ron Paul so no the only thing we owe them is more mockery. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:986855404] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>Guns_of_Verdun posted... </cite><quote>I always used to make fun of them but Democrats and Republicans have given us Reagan, Biden, Bush and their magnus opus, Donald Dumbass. Maybe they were onto something. Government having all this power is dangerous. We make fun of them for being crazy, then elected people who are also crazy but now have untold unchecked power instead of trying to curb it.Maybe humans as a species are just crazy. We don't seem capable of not destroying ourselves over bizarre nonsense.</quote>Libertarians would have given us Ron Paul so no the only thing we owe them is more mockery.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
aarrgus 10/27/25 3:07:20 PM #74:	Guns_of_Verdun posted... Penn Jilette was against Trump in 2015 Penn Jillette no longer calls himself a libertarian. I can respect someone who finally realizes that Libertarians are right wing authoritarian bootlickers, not freedom fighters. --- Last night I was lying in bed, staring at the stars, and I wondered... Where the *** is my roof?* <cite>aarrgus posted [p:986855613] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>Guns_of_Verdun posted... </cite><quote>Penn Jilette was against Trump in 2015</quote>Penn Jillette no longer calls himself a libertarian. I can respect someone who finally realizes that Libertarians are right wing authoritarian bootlickers, not freedom fighters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 10/27/25 10:31:20 PM #75:	aarrgus posted... Penn Jillette no longer calls himself a libertarian. I can respect someone who finally realizes that Libertarians are right wing authoritarian bootlickers, not freedom fighters. Huh, good for him! Makes me like him a bit better. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/93867326.jpg --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:986859829] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>aarrgus posted... </cite><quote>Penn Jillette no longer calls himself a libertarian. I can respect someone who finally realizes that Libertarians are right wing authoritarian bootlickers, not freedom fighters.</quote>Huh, good for him! Makes me like him a bit better.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/93867326.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoesntMatter 10/27/25 11:16:57 PM #76:	damn. Penn Jillette is a pretty cool dude. --- Reject the Oligarchy. Resist their plot: https://theplotagainstamerica.com/ Find your local organizers: https://www.fiftyfifty.one/ https://indivisible.org/ <cite>DoesntMatter posted [p:986860256] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>damn. Penn Jillette is a pretty cool dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spiky_Peahorn 10/28/25 2:48:28 AM #77:	Guns_of_Verdun posted... Libertarianism = Severe limits on government with a focus on an unregulated free market and individual freedoms. Current Libertarians only want limited government when it pertains to themselves. They're very much ok with total government control over anyone who doesn't think like they do. --- It was clever for a guy who screams like Sindel from Mortal Kombat when he gets angry. - MICHALECOLE <cite>Spiky_Peahorn posted [p:986861700] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>Guns_of_Verdun posted... </cite><quote>Libertarianism = Severe limits on government with a focus on an unregulated free market and individual freedoms.</quote>Current Libertarians only want limited government when it pertains to themselves. They're very much ok with total government control over anyone who doesn't think like they do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guns_of_Verdun 10/28/25 3:02:04 AM #78:	Heineken14 posted... Huh, good for him! Makes me like him a bit better. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/93867326.jpg based --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv <cite>Guns_of_Verdun posted [p:986861798] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>Huh, good for him! Makes me like him a bit better.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/93867326.jpg</quote>based</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 10/28/25 5:36:33 AM #79:	It always seemed like a movement that wants chaos while also wanting safety from that chaos --- A worthless existence <cite>tremain07 posted [p:986862268] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>It always seemed like a movement that wants chaos while also wanting safety from that chaos</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kirbymuncher 10/28/25 6:17:24 AM #80:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I think pretty much everyone has some level of "the government shouldn't be sticking their nose in THIS thing" the trick is that you have to realize there are also many things the government certainly should be sticking their nose in --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF <cite>kirbymuncher posted [p:986862413] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I think pretty much everyone has some level of "the government shouldn't be sticking their nose in THIS thing"the trick is that you have to realize there are also many things the government certainly should be sticking their nose in</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guns_of_Verdun 10/28/25 12:04:38 PM #81:	tremain07 posted... It always seemed like a movement that wants chaos while also wanting safety from that chaos Sounds like right wing politicians to me --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv <cite>Guns_of_Verdun posted [p:986864689] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>tremain07 posted... </cite><quote>It always seemed like a movement that wants chaos while also wanting safety from that chaos</quote>Sounds like right wing politicians to me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 10/28/25 12:43:39 PM #82:	kirbymuncher posted... the trick is that you have to realize there are also many things the government certainly should be sticking their nose in not with this administration --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif https://i.imgur.com/8mWCvA4.gif <cite>FL81 posted [p:986865059] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>kirbymuncher posted... </cite><quote>the trick is that you have to realize there are also many things the government certainly should be sticking their nose in</quote>not with this administration</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guns_of_Verdun 10/28/25 3:10:27 PM #83:	Yeah I wouldn't trust this government to open a jar of pickles. --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv <cite>Guns_of_Verdun posted [p:986866454] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I wouldn't trust this government to open a jar of pickles. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 10/28/25 3:11:17 PM #84:	The MAGAts who like weed and have complicated viewpoints regarding the age of consent? No, no the fuck we do not. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:986866458] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>The MAGAts who like weed and have complicated viewpoints regarding the age of consent?No, no the fuck we do not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 10/28/25 3:39:41 PM #85:	tremain07 posted... It always seemed like a movement that wants chaos while also wanting safety from that chaos My view of libertarians has always been anarchists in polo shirts and khakis, so we're not too far off from each other. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:986866754] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>tremain07 posted... </cite><quote>It always seemed like a movement that wants chaos while also wanting safety from that chaos</quote>My view of libertarians has always been anarchists in polo shirts and khakis, so we're not too far off from each other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guns_of_Verdun 10/31/25 10:06:53 PM #86:	masterpug53 posted... My view of libertarians has always been anarchists in polo shirts and khakis, so we're not too far off from each other. I still find it weird that you don't know the difference between anarchists and libertarians --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv <cite>Guns_of_Verdun posted [p:986901171] in So do we o... [t:81060737]...</cite> <quote>masterpug53 posted... </cite><quote>My view of libertarians has always been anarchists in polo shirts and khakis, so we're not too far off from each other.</quote>I still find it weird that you don't know the difference between anarchists and libertarians </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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