Poll of the Day > Should schools/teachers assign video essays?

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Damn_Underscore
10/27/25 4:32:58 PM
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Obviously they wouldnt help writing ability like standard essays but they would be beneficial to other artistic and thinking abilities. And I could be wrong but I think students would enjoy them more than standard essays

Also they actually could help writing ability if including your script was part of the assignment.

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Blue_Thunder
10/27/25 6:06:16 PM
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Ngl I'd 100% pick the written essay if given the choice between them.

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ParanoidObsessive
10/27/25 6:36:39 PM
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No, because not every student is going to have a camera to film them or the ability to edit them.

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Muscles
10/27/25 7:09:16 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
No, because not every student is going to have a camera to film them or the ability to edit them.

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Glob
10/27/25 8:04:37 PM
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Doesnt sound overly feasible from a teacher workload perspective.
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KJ_StErOiDs
10/27/25 8:13:46 PM
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I wouldn't like it to be mandatory, but a choice between the two would be okay.

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Salrite
10/27/25 8:25:32 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
No, because not every student is going to have a camera to film them or the ability to edit them.

Essentially everyone has a smart phone or at least access to one, and there are free options for editing on said phones. For the few who don't, there could be classroom equipment that could be loaned out for the assignment.

And not that legitimate editing even needs to be a major focus of the assignment. It'd probably be more beneficial to grade on writing, speaking and critical thinking ability. They could very well just sit in front of the camera the whole way through with zero editing at all, although maybe show them how to cut in some b-roll and provide material for them.
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adjl
10/27/25 8:26:44 PM
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And if they want to go beyond free editing options on phones, computer labs are a thing.

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Salrite
10/27/25 8:29:02 PM
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adjl posted...
And if they want to go beyond free editing options on phones, computer labs are a thing.

Yeah, with proper planning and coordination, and a small enough classroom it could be feasible. I'd recommend giving a crash course on some simple editing and planning first. I've had similar projects in various High School classes.
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joemodda
10/27/25 8:30:00 PM
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Maybe for a computer class or multimedia arts class

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Salrite
10/27/25 8:32:11 PM
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And maybe it could even be a group project to cut down on material to grade and give those students who aren't the most comfortable with presentation and being on camera the option to contribute in other ways.
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SinisterSlay
10/27/25 8:45:38 PM
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I'd say yes.

Now that Everyone has a phone, everyone has a camera, so job done there.
And Chromebooks are required now, so again everyone has a camera.

But what if someone was really poor and didn't have either? Like they live in a box all night and come to school. Well the school should provide a laptop or tablet in this case, or they make it at lunch in a computer lab just like us millennials did all those years ago.

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Glob
10/27/25 8:49:38 PM
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Salrite posted...
And maybe it could even be a group project to cut down on material to grade and give those students who aren't the most comfortable with presentation and being on camera the option to contribute in other ways.

Ill never grade group work. Its not a fair system.
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Salrite
10/27/25 9:06:45 PM
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Glob posted...
Ill never grade group work. Its not a fair system.

The fact of life is that everyone will be working with a group when they join the workforce. Better they learn soon that they'll need to carry the slack.

I agree, it's not a fair system. But neither is life.
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ParanoidObsessive
10/27/25 9:08:54 PM
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Salrite posted...
Essentially everyone has a smart phone or at least access to one

I don't.

Granted, I'm an old curmudgeon in my 50s, but you can't assume every child has one. Some are too poor. Some may have parents who are generally anti-tech. It's even possible some might have had one, but it's broken when you're asking for the assignment and they haven't had the opportunity to replace it yet.

The problem is, unless the school is willing to provide 100% of the necessary hardware, software, and training to use it properly, it should in no way require it for any assignment. It's one thing when they're asking you to buy paper, pencils, or other minor things as schools supplies, but the moment they start asking you to pay hundreds of dollars to complete mandatory projects that can negatively affect your grade, they've crossed a very significant line.

And even if the school is willing to provide 100% of the necessary hardware, software, and training to use it properly, it still isn't necessarily something they should require, because the ability to produce video essays isn't necessarily a valuable life skill (unless you want to become an online content creator, in which case it absolutely isn't a valuable life skill). The time and resources you're wasting on it could easily be used for far better purposes.

At least live presentations theoretically improve public speaking ability, which can be more useful as a life skill (and ironically, can even potentially improve someone's ability to speak in a Zoom call). But the general purpose of an essay in the first place is to see if you can comprehend the material being taught well enough to present it to others, and not seeing how good you are at using video editing software.

It'd be one thing if you're in a vocational school or a college course teaching film editing or something similar. But it definitely shouldn't be something at the standard general public school level.

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Glob
10/27/25 9:16:47 PM
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Salrite posted...
The fact of life is that everyone will be working with a group when they join the workforce. Better they learn soon that they'll need to carry the slack.

I agree, it's not a fair system. But neither is life.

I dont share your implied view that school is just about setting people up to be in the workforce. Also, you get to choose where you work and who you work with. School is not like that. Ive also worked in many incredibly varied jobs. Its very rare that Ive had to carry somebody.

Its important to give children opportunities to work in groups, but theres no point in grading it as the grades wont be a valid measure of anything, which renders them worthless.
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SinisterSlay
10/27/25 9:22:57 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
And even if the school is willing to provide 100% of the necessary hardware, software, and training to use it properly, it still isn't necessarily something they should require, because the ability to produce video essays isn't necessarily a valuable life skill (unless you want to become an online content creator, in which case it absolutely isn't a valuable life skill). The time and resources you're wasting on it could easily be used for far better purposes.
Whoa whoa whoa.
Nearly everything you learn in school is not a valuable life skill.
If you want to learn life skills, learn to cook and do your taxes.

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adjl
10/27/25 10:22:25 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
I don't.

"Essentially everyone" leaves room for a handful of exceptions.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
The problem is, unless the school is willing to provide 100% of the necessary hardware, software, and training to use it properly, it should in no way require it for any assignment.

That's not a terribly high bar. Most people have an old cell phone or two they could donate to the school to use for such purposes, and while you're not wrong that they should try to prepare for providing 100% of it, it's vanishingly unlikely they'll ever actually need that kind of coverage. Especially where producing a video essay would be better formatted as a group project than a solo one, so you'd only actually need one camera per 3-4 students.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
because the ability to produce video essays isn't necessarily a valuable life skill

Organizing and presenting information to an audience is absolutely a valuable life skill. Sure, there are other ways to develop those skills, but bringing additional media into the question can help engage students who aren't so keen on powerpoints or essays. Teaching effectively is often less about *what* you teach and more about *how* you teach it, and a big part of that is making the lesson at hand interesting and fun.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
The time and resources you're wasting on it could easily be used for far better purposes.

Such as...?

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fishy071
10/28/25 12:30:56 AM
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I prefer written essays.

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AltOmega2
10/28/25 1:06:57 PM
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I definitely had to do at least one video essay for a high school class. And because we were encouraged to be everything BUT the person who reads the stuff to the camera, I had my little brother read a script in front of a shitty DV cam to a background Linkin Park song.
I was also the actor of a girl's essay where I just stood in the hallway outside the classroom and read from a script refusing to make eye contact.
High school sucked.

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wwinterj25
10/28/25 2:33:34 PM
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SinisterSlay posted...
Whoa whoa whoa.
Nearly everything you learn in school is not a valuable life skill.
If you want to learn life skills, learn to cook and do your taxes.

We actually have cooking classes over here so that's useful but even if you don't the parents could teach the kids how to cook. Not everything is the schools job to teach kids.


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adjl
10/28/25 3:14:51 PM
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I mean, parents could teach kids everything. Heck, plenty of kids do learn more about school subjects at home than at school (like I was reading independently well before I started school and it was many years before English class taught me anything substantial). The school's job is to make sure all kids have the necessary knowledge and skills to go out and be productive members of society, and in some cases, that includes picking up the parents' slack.

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Beveren_Rabbit
10/28/25 4:37:02 PM
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it's about how learning how to think creatively, problem solve software, and get a point across. video essays would teach purpose when speaking, articulation, and presentation which are important soft skills for job interviews, customer service, and

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Nichtcrawler-X
10/28/25 5:31:56 PM
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SinisterSlay posted...
Now that Everyone has a phone, everyone has a camera, so job done there.

Schools are doing whatever they can to keep phones out of classrooms.

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Damn_Underscore
10/28/25 5:38:25 PM
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Schools are totally misunderstanding the assignment regarding phones. Instead of banning them they should teach proper use of them. They can be so useful for looking up facts. I know this because I have taught classes before and have used my phone to look things up while I was explaining stuff. Banning them is a lost cause anyway.

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SinisterSlay
10/28/25 6:21:30 PM
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Nichtcrawler-X posted...
Schools are doing whatever they can to keep phones out of classrooms.
Banning them in the classroom doesn't effect them making a video essay

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Salrite
10/28/25 6:37:13 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Schools are totally misunderstanding the assignment regarding phones. Instead of banning them they should teach proper use of them. They can be so useful for looking up facts. I know this because I have taught classes before and have used my phone to look things up while I was explaining stuff. Banning them is a lost cause anyway.

I agree, we live in a world now where it is a whole lot easier to learn so much more on your own than through a school. I believe schools should have the duty of teaching students "how" to learn and inspire that drive of self education. Creating lessons that train students how to think critically. Teaching students how to use a computer and the internet should be priority number one because it will be their primary resource after they leave school.

Of course, this philosophy will cut into the income of "Higher Education" significantly so I can see why they'd want to keep a tight grip on the control they already have on our futures.
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SinisterSlay
10/28/25 6:38:50 PM
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Salrite posted...
I agree, we live in a world now where it is a whole lot easier to learn so much more on your own than through a school. I believe schools should have the duty of teaching students "how" to learn and inspire that drive of self education. Creating lessons that train students how to think critically. Teaching students how to use a computer and the internet should be priority number one because it will be their primary resource after they leave school.

Of course, this philosophy will cut into the income of "Higher Education" significantly so I can see why they'd want to keep a tight grip on the control they already have on our futures.
Might need to throw in some critical thinking and skills to avoid being conned or tricked. And maybe some learning to defend against social networking.

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Damn_Underscore
10/28/25 6:46:24 PM
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I also have to say the large reliance on GPA is insane. Crazy amount of stress caused for no good reason. If anything it actually hurts learning.

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Glob
10/28/25 6:58:50 PM
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SinisterSlay posted...
Might need to throw in some critical thinking and skills to avoid being conned or tricked. And maybe some learning to defend against social networking.

Do you guys (Im assuming youre American) really not do that already?
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dj1200
10/28/25 7:23:12 PM
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It would take way longer to watch a video and critique it then it would to just read an essay where you can go back to any part with ease. Not that its impossible, it would just be longer.

Also the potential legal stuff with having a billion videos of underage kids. Idk

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Salrite
10/28/25 7:54:46 PM
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Glob posted...
Do you guys (Im assuming youre American) really not do that already?

I can't comment on today's standards, social media wasn't even a thing when I was in public school. But it would probably depend on the teacher and school district. Drawing comparison from my days, we would have advice pounded into us about being careful who you talk to online from all directions, it was just common knowledge. So not necessarily a mandatory part of the schools curriculum, but common enough where you'd hear it regardless.

What, do you have "internet safety courses" hard baked into your curriculum in Vietnam?
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Glob
10/28/25 8:01:54 PM
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Salrite posted...
I can't comment on today's standards, social media wasn't even a thing when I was in public school. But it would probably depend on the teacher and school district. Drawing comparison from my days, we would have advice pounded into us about being careful who you talk to online from all directions, it was just common knowledge. So not necessarily a mandatory part of the schools curriculum, but common enough where you'd hear it regardless.

What, do you have "internet safety courses" hard baked into your curriculum in Vietnam?

I cant speak for the state schools, but all the schools Im aware of cover it in both IT and PSHE and most have a cyber safety day or week at some point in the year too.
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SinisterSlay
10/28/25 8:32:31 PM
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Glob posted...
Do you guys (Im assuming youre American) really not do that already?
I'm Canadian but no. And it's really obvious when you hear 40% of Americans speak

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pedro45
10/28/25 8:38:10 PM
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Only optionally. You really cannot expect a student to have technology they cannot freely and easily access. As i grew up, handwritten essays eventually became optional and then typed became expected. At the same time, access to computers through labs and libraries became more and more easy.

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Glob
10/28/25 9:30:02 PM
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pedro45 posted...
Only optionally. You really cannot expect a student to have technology they cannot freely and easily access. As i grew up, handwritten essays eventually became optional and then typed became expected. At the same time, access to computers through labs and libraries became more and more easy.

All schools have laptops and iPads for the students, in my experience. This has been the case for a long time. Once again, Im not sure about the US.
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Salrite
10/28/25 9:52:38 PM
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Glob posted...
All schools have laptops and iPads for the students, in my experience. This has been the case for a long time. Once again, Im not sure about the US.

I think it's getting common in the US. I know my sister's kids have their own Chromebooks assigned to them for school use. Although, results might vary in lower funded areas.
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ReturnOfFa
10/28/25 10:35:04 PM
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We had a prof that had us do video reflections as our 'final' for every unit, midterm and final. It got very tedious, although I didn't mind them overall. He was purposefully non-specific when we would ask 'what we should talk about', or how long it should be - I remember some of mine being over an hour, whereas some people would do 5 minutes. I was mentally fucked at the end of my final semester and said as much within the confines of my final reflection - I went over a few things I learned, but his class took the least priority in that final semester. I was very frank and honest with where my attention had been (other classes), and my reflection was less than 15 minutes. He still gave me a C+.

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Glob
10/28/25 11:02:42 PM
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Salrite posted...
I think it's getting common in the US. I know my sister's kids have their own Chromebooks assigned to them for school use. Although, results might vary in lower funded areas.

Thats crazy. Such a wealthy nation being so far behind the rest of the world for educational basics is really genuinely sickening.

I started teaching over a decade ago in the UK and it was completely normal at that point for all children to have their own school ipad from year 3 (Grade 2) onwards.
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SunWuKung420
10/31/25 6:23:53 AM
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They can.

Should implies all essays be video which is dumb.

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adjl
10/31/25 9:40:51 AM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Should implies all essays be video

No it doesn't. Even if you were to answer the question directly with "schools should assign video essays" (which is itself a more rigid interpretation than really fits the logic at play here), nothing about that implies that all written essays should be replaced by videos.

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Salrite
10/31/25 9:54:41 AM
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Honestly, I kind of do feel like basic media production should be taught in public schools with how ubiquitous it has become and will continue to grow in the future. Everything from video to audio to graphic design to just the process of conceptualizing and producing something. It's a wide range of skills that hold a lot of value. Something that falls under the greater umbrella of computer science and literacy.
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Beveren_Rabbit
10/31/25 10:08:18 AM
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yeah. most jobs nowadays require an app to manage your hours, documents, and concerns and job interviews are through videocalls. it doesn't hurt to learn multimedia now that streaming and videos are a bit part of everyone's lives. And if you plan on moving on up in most companies, you might have to show plans on how make your work environment more safe and productive.

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Damn_Underscore
10/31/25 10:36:38 AM
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Salrite posted...
Honestly, I kind of do feel like basic media production should be taught in public schools with how ubiquitous it has become and will continue to grow in the future. Everything from video to audio to graphic design to just the process of conceptualizing and producing something. It's a wide range of skills that hold a lot of value. Something that falls under the greater umbrella of computer science and literacy.

I have a really basic knowledge of how to use Paint, I wish they had Basic Photoshop classes in school

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Beveren_Rabbit
10/31/25 4:50:57 PM
#45:


the point isn't that you'd use every skill or knowledge you learn, but that you become a well rounded person :)

the issue is that schools don't teach basic life skills to prepare students for job interviews, planning out careers/education, food prep, taxes, etc

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Damn_Underscore
10/31/25 5:20:43 PM
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I think Home Ec classes were generally removed because they were seen as outdated, but what did they teach? If they taught you basic cooking that seems useful to me. Taxes and other "adulting" activities seem like they would belong in a Home Ec curriculum even if they weren't taught before.

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Salrite
10/31/25 7:03:17 PM
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I don't know if Home Ec was seen as "outdated". Maybe more so that it was seen as knowledge that could just as easily be taught at home by your parents. Which ideally should be the case, but not all parents have that ability or are willing to. Mine didn't teach me shit.
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SunWuKung420
10/31/25 8:09:40 PM
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I feel like survival skills are more useful than how to be a social media influencer skills are.

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Beveren_Rabbit
10/31/25 10:27:42 PM
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Home Ec required students to pay for their own groceries and chores were hardly shared fairly amongst students. students would leave the classroom early to avoid having to wash dishes and clean up.

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Demogoblin92
11/01/25 7:41:35 PM
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No because not every parent can afford that kind of technology.

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