Current Events > U.S. adds new grounds to deny Visa holders with pre-existing health conditions

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Diabetes, heart disease, obesity, neurological diseases, mental illness, and cancer. Because they can "drain U.S. resources." Not making this shit up.

While screening for communicable diseases, checking vaccination history, infectious diseases and mental health conditions have always been part of the visa application process; the new guidelines add new medical conditions to be considered.
According to the report, the cable says, "You must consider an applicant's health. Certain medical conditions including, but not limited to, cardiovascular diseases, respiratory diseases, cancers, diabetes, metabolic diseases, neurological diseases, and mental health conditions can require hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of care."

Visa officers have also been instructed to assess if applicants are capable of paying for the medical treatment.
However, a senior attorney for the Catholic Legal Immigration Network, a nonprofit legal aid group, Charles Wheeler, has said that although the guidelines are for all visas, it will likely be used only for permanent residency cases.

"Does the applicant have adequate financial resources to cover the costs of such care over his entire expected lifespan without seeking public cash assistance or long-term institutionalisation at government expense?" the cable says.
Noting a potential complication with visa officers being directed to develop their own thoughts about medical issues, Wheeler said, "That's troubling because they're not medically trained, they have no experience in this area, and they shouldn't be making projections based on their own personal knowledge or bias."

Apart from the applications, the guidance also directs visa officers to assess the health of family members such as children or older parents. "Do any of the dependents have disabilities, chronic medical conditions, or other special needs and require care such that the applicant cannot maintain employment?" it says.

Sophia Genovese, an immigration lawyer at Georgetown University, said that the guidelines encourage visa officers to speculate on the cost of applicants' medical care and their ability to get employed in the US, judging by their medical history, according to the KFF report.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/us-adds-new-grounds-to-deny-visas-obesity-diabetes-heart-disease/ar-AA1Q0ybp?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Arcanine2009 posted...

Diabetes, heart disease, Obesity, neurological diseases, mental illness, and Cancer.

And our president has most of those.

Even if this applies to permanent residency owners, it's awful shit.

"Mental illness" is a fucking insidious one.

They can use common as hell things like anxiety and depression as grounds for this. Just evil.

dotsdfe posted...

"Mental illness" is a fucking insidious one.

They can use common as hell things like anxiety and depression as grounds for this. Just evil.

Yep. Or even someone's sexuality to boot.

Unconstitutional isn't it?

StarSpangled posted...

Unconstitutional isn't it?

I'm not sure but I'm leaning towards no because of our spotty record on immigration.

and much like how insurance companies want to handle it, you could make the argument that someone who gets a visa a decade before being diagnosed with heart disease or cancer could have had it per-existing when they received the visa. so you can easily use this to just kick the sick out of the country even if they've been here legally for years.

StarSpangled posted...

Unconstitutional isn't it?

keep in mind that the people with the job to declare things unconstitutional are taking turns sucking trump off.

Soon enough, it'll be giving locals with pre-existing conditions the "useless eater" treatment too.

Not liking Trump will be a "mental illness"

I absolutely detest this horrible administration.

The key is mental illness. They will target those on false pretense because it's harder to prove one is sane where they can gas light you under duress

StarSpangled posted...

Unconstitutional isn't it?

Amazing how people STILL think this matters to republicans.

Nazi

Rob_the_Ninja posted...

our president has most of those.

screw it... we'll just give him the whole damn thing. he has all of em.

thanks very much.

This kind of policy is globally extremely commmon - almost ubiquitous.

Well, both me & my mum are fucked, she is in remission from Stage IV womb cancer and I have depression on account of my mum's diagnosis.

SgtBash posted...

she is in remission from Stage IV womb cancer

damn. despite the outcome i hope that cancer stays in remission forever or goes away.

crappy scenario.

Sonic_Cannon posted...

This kind of policy is globally extremely commmon - almost ubiquitous.

Yeah I am surprised people aren't aware of this. Even Canada does this.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/inadmissibility/reasons/medical-inadmissibility.html

ssjevot posted...

Yeah I am surprised people aren't aware of this. Even Canada does this.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/inadmissibility/reasons/medical-inadmissibility.html

To be fair, this makes sense in a world with universal health care. Countries want to ensure that people moving to their country aren't going to suddenly put a bigger health press on the already there citizens. It's logical in that case.

It doesn't make sense to have this outside of being able to work in the US. There is no "burden on the health system" because it's all privately funded by the people coming in.

ssjevot posted...

Yeah I am surprised people aren't aware of this. Even Canada does this.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/inadmissibility/reasons/medical-inadmissibility.html

Yup this. Its sad but its pretty common in a lot of countries.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Not liking Trump will be a "mental illness"

Yup. The fuckers always complain about "Trump derangement syndrome" which always makes my eyes roll so hard.

ssjevot posted...

Yeah I am surprised people aren't aware of this. Even Canada does this.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/inadmissibility/reasons/medical-inadmissibility.html

yeah sadly

SgtBash posted...

Well, both me & my mum are fucked, she is in remission from Stage IV womb cancer and I have depression on account of my mum's diagnosis.

Sorry to hear that.