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I feel like we lose them due to the fact that there isn't that much to talk about currently.
North Pole's signup pool is pretty impressive given the last few games though, I would have signed up fully but I missed it by like an hour or something "Aw man"
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From: _Regaro_ | #021 MWIS appears to have dropped off the face of the earth
again
Just because the Cowboys lost doesn't mean you had to murder him
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From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #023 Also, we need Breaking Bad mafia. And Deus Ex Mafia. I am deciding which one I want to ruin.
"Ruin"
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Can this number reasonably be reached without dipping into "SHM"
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plus, it's TOWN Confirmable that is really weak, so it takes up one of your strongest TOWN role slots for little actual 'power' gain on TOWN's side, although it could also just destroy a game on its own.
It's very high variance, and not worth the hassle.
Also, scums can't get danced an "extra scum kill", that's just stupid. Although you could Dance a Scum Power and give him/her another use of that ability.
It also brings in a bunch of problems in determining when the role resolves in the MAFIA NIGHT ACTIONS PRIORITY LIST.
Consider a basic scenario: Dancer targets Cop Cop targets Player A
in order to fairly host this, you have to wait for ALL night actions to be received (to prevent metagaming roleblocks, and actual roleblocks to see what happens), then you send the cop his original scan and inform him he was DANCED and may act again (in the wee hours of the night, with little time and potentially the player not available to act) or tell him he may send in another action BEFORE he gets to see the original scan. Either way, you can have problems.
Consider this nightmare scenario: Dancer targets Roleblocker Roleblocker targets Cop
After all actions are resolved and messages sent, the roleblocker gets to send another roleblock:
Roleblocker targets Dancer
Now the Dancer is sent that he was roleblocked and roleblocker got to perform two actions last night, and I can't see any way you can resolve this in a way to make this (bad outcome) not happen.
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From: _Regaro_ | #034 Honestly, I think the best way to do it, if you want it for whatever reason, is to have it not take effect until the night after it's used <_<
yeah, that's probably the necessary nerf you need, but then you have the a role that doesn't actually do anything.
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The Dancer wouldn't even be roleblocked in that case. The roleblock would happen clearly after the dance occurred and not be able to prevent it.
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From: _Regaro_ | #034 Honestly, I think the best way to do it, if you want it for whatever reason, is to have it not take effect until the night after it's used <_<
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TOWN Dancer: targets a player at day/night to give them another stocked use of their role action during that day or that night or the next night. They are sent a message telling them they get to perform another action. If they don't have any night actions, nothing happens.
p.s., if they are a role with limited actions and are out of actions, do they still get sent the message telling them they may use another ability that day/night/next night?
-- Virtue - "You don't need a reason to help people."
From: MajinZidane | #040 p.s., if they are a role with limited actions and are out of actions, do they still get sent the message telling them they may use another ability that day/night/next night?
From: Meow1000 | #037 Boko its a simple matter of priority.
The Dancer wouldn't even be roleblocked in that case. The roleblock would happen clearly after the dance occurred and not be able to prevent it.
(Aka the Dancer would not even be informed they were roleblocked since their actual action was not blocked.)
Dancer priority is as follows:
*Every* action in the game
Dancer
Whoever acts in response to the Dancer, while still affected by earlier actions like a bus or roleblock.
The Dancer is only blocked if blocked before it actually dances, and that prevents the catastrophe,
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From: Meow1000 | #037 Boko its a simple matter of priority.
The Dancer wouldn't even be roleblocked in that case. The roleblock would happen clearly after the dance occurred and not be able to prevent it.
I understand how priority works, but the deciding how to resolve the Dancer in a normal game using priority isn't simple by any means. I know that the Dancer wouldn't be roleblocked, the point I made was do you still send the "you were roleblocked" message to the Dancer? He was, in fact, roleblocked and did perform an action that night. The standard protocol is sending that message.
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From: MajinZidane | #040 TOWN Dancer: targets a player at day/night to give them another stocked use of their role action during that day or that night or the next night. They are sent a message telling them they get to perform another action. If they don't have any night actions, nothing happens.
p.s., if they are a role with limited actions and are out of actions, do they still get sent the message telling them they may use another ability that day/night/next night?
I'd say no. A 1-shot vig can't fire twice if danced. Like a roleblocker, you only get informed of it if it is relevant to you.
Vanillas aren't told when they get RBed.
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From: Meow1000 | #042 (Aka the Dancer would not even be informed they were roleblocked since their actual action was not blocked.)
This is exactly what I'd do as well, but I still figured it was a point worth discussing.
Following that priority resolves the issue of a Dancer + Roleblocker targeting a Cop and a Detective as his second action, meaning the first would get roleblocked and nothing would happen to the second.
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I think the most elegant solution to remaining true to the spirit of TOWN Dancer (ie: letting a role act twice in one night on the night it was targeted) is modifying the role into something more powerful, which I hinted at earlier.
TOWN Dancer: During the day, target any player in the game. That night, the player may perform their night action twice if able. - You'd send the "You were danced" during "lynch resolution" like you would when a lynch happens, or a Mayor has a chance to act (meaning you'd give the TOWN Dancer some time to finalize their action post-lynch but prior to revealing anything about the lynch). - The Dancer would be un-roleblockable and highly confirmable, which is very strong. - It eliminates the hosting nightmare of having to find players during the night, telling them they get to perform another action, and resolving that action after every other action in the game has occurred.
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Actually if you take it logically my priority order was very wrong.
Dancer has to be the highest priority night action.
(Well no, not *highest*: bus, direct RB in particular still have higher priority)
A danced RB should be able to block two people, just not the dancer itself.
Going by this, an RBed Cop would get told they were danced, submit their second scan, THEN get told they were blocked.
Roleblock Bus Anything that bypasses or eliminates Roleblock (Empowerer I've used on AIM twice) Anything that bypasses Bus (If its ever existed) Dance (Other actions, including second action by whoever was danced)
Actually the only way it really makes sense is to put the roleblocked message before the danced message, which just makes it harder for dancer to self confirmed.
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It would be an ultra-confirmable insanely double edged sword, even more double edged than it already is, but it does make more sense that way
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From: Meow1000 | #047 Actually if you take it logically my priority order was very wrong.
Dancer has to be the highest priority night action.
That's how I was seeing it if it were used during my game. It didn't end up mattering at all, but the MAFIA community deciding where we want it to or where we think it should resolve during the "NIGHT ACTIONS PRIORITY LIST" is something I wanted to talk about.
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