Board 8 > turbopuns mafia topic 2: these are energy puns

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the battle of wits rages on

1. Sceptile
2. Nana
3. Ulti
4. GranAures
5. Terra-enforcer
6. death
7. pjbasis
8. Leafeon13N
9. eaedwards6400
10. benjamin3740
11. Meta_Knight123
12. DoomTheGyarados
13. Brohan
14. MZero
15. VI

there's 15 so 8 votes on a single player will end the day early

otherwise day ends at 9pm eastern on thursday. that's about 25.25 hours from now

current votes:

pjbasis [1] - (Nana), (Terra), Ulti
Ulti [1] - (VI), (Brohan), MZero
Nana [1] - (eaed), (Doom), Doom
death [1] - Sceptile, (VI)
eaed [1] - Terra
Sceptile [1] - Nana
MZero [1] - Brohan
leafeon [1] - (Doom), MetaKnight
MetaKnight [0] - (eaed), (Gran)
Brohan [0] - (Terra), (MZero)
Ben [0] - (eaed)
VI [0] - (eaed)
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Wait Sceptile voted Death

How come I didn't remember that

Then again I guess my Switch wasn't memorable either
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seems like a good time to snooze

I should be around all day tomorrow at least, its some kind of jesusy day after all
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VeryInsane posted...

Wait Sceptile voted Death

How come I didn't remember that

Then again I guess my Switch wasn't memorable either

your switch.. or your 'Nintendo switch?'

I am tired, forgive me one more joke. it was right there for the taking

more seriously, sceptile voted me way back
then he just started asking Terra to explain his townread of me, which was bordering on fishing for info
even if it is a strange thing to fish for
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Oh new topic.

Moo.
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I am so confused as to how a Town read early can be considered fishing but eh what do I know
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and on a final note, I am glad to see a lift of players with posts that I can all remember for once
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*list
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Death what do you think of super power player Brohan
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I'm pissed that I'm stuck at work and the Survivor finale is about to start.

Off topic but I wanted to vent.
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Honestly reading the last two pages of the other fourm was useless, people just keep talking about weird role claims and no one is reaching a conclusion iirc except for ben.
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What is your conclusion
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I mean if you don't like the direction that's fine but you can try to at the very least change the subject or bring something up that's new
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Hey VI you never responded to this

UItimaterializer posted...

MysticBrohan posted...

UItimaterializer posted...

Brohan can you explain your vote switch?

read my posts before asking questions guy

VI, thoughts on this response?

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VeryInsane posted...

I mean if you don't like the direction that's fine but you can try to at the very least change the subject or bring something up that's new

There is no direction game seems to be traveling in circles. I think NaNa is town mainly becuase after re reading It looked like people were just chunking scum for a kidna bad reason.
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Meta_Knight123 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

I mean if you don't like the direction that's fine but you can try to at the very least change the subject or bring something up that's new

There is no direction game seems to be traveling in circles. I think NaNa is town mainly becuase after re reading It looked like people were just chunking scum for a kidna bad reason.

How is my reason bad?
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Meta_Knight123 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

I mean if you don't like the direction that's fine but you can try to at the very least change the subject or bring something up that's new

There is no direction game seems to be traveling in circles. I think NaNa is town mainly becuase after re reading It looked like people were just chunking scum for a kidna bad reason.

How is my reason bad?

Mind telling me what your reason is again? After re reading all I remembered is that the claim felt weird but ben made a decent point. You can say its TMI but if NaNa rolled a backup like he claimed then he would know theres backups in the game right?
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MZero11 posted...

Hey VI you never responded to this

UItimaterializer posted...

MysticBrohan posted...

UItimaterializer posted...

Brohan can you explain your vote switch?

read my posts before asking questions guy

VI, thoughts on this response?

Oh I missed this

I mean Brohan did explain why he switched to Ulti and MZero but Ulti can't read so...

Hm.
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I just don't see what thoughts anyone could even have on this subject. "Umm, go read his posts?"

Just seems like a pointless post. Fluff if you will. Don't like it
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Oops, new topic. I was reading through the last one and didn't expect that.

Sceptilesolar posted...

Okay, well, I give up on that post from Ben. I dug back to see what he said earlier but there's nothing that contradicts what he's saying.

I don't want to call people town just because they claimed Backup X early, but at least it's a consistent position for him to take. Not sure why I thought there was some major contradiction when I read it first.

VeryInsane posted...

Wait Sceptile voted Death

How come I didn't remember that

Then again I guess my Switch wasn't memorable either

I voted Death because I didn't like his position on Ben, which seemed wishy-washy. Death gave an okay explanation of it at the time, saying that he thought Ben was town, when I had been assuming he was calling Ben scum. So I am less suspicious of him as a result of that.
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Meta_Knight123 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Meta_Knight123 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

I mean if you don't like the direction that's fine but you can try to at the very least change the subject or bring something up that's new

There is no direction game seems to be traveling in circles. I think NaNa is town mainly becuase after re reading It looked like people were just chunking scum for a kidna bad reason.

How is my reason bad?

Mind telling me what your reason is again? After re reading all I remembered is that the claim felt weird but ben made a decent point. You can say its TMI but if NaNa rolled a backup like he claimed then he would know theres backups in the game right?

I think it is quite the reach to get a backup ___ role and then decide that backup roles are replacement vanillas. It's a leap of logic.

But if you'd rather kill Death that's cool tool. More than one scum to murder after all.
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Here's some notes I made as I was catching up:

I honestly thought Gran was town for a completely different reason (mostly gut tbh) but I totally agree with Nana. In fact, funny enough, I just happen to be the back-up Firefighter Gran was referring to, so I was able to put two and two together pretty quickly after someone pointed out the idea of Back-up. We didn’t have a Firefighter that game so I was essentially vanilla. Nana reads as town to me. Not as clear cut as some of his games, but I don’t buy him as scum at all right now.

I don’t know enough about this Brohan guy, but I think there's a strong possibility that MZero is scum this game. He hasn’t done much of anything at all (even though he made sure he had a presence probably to avoid being called inactive like pj) but he hasn’t done squat aside from bandwagoning onto the terrible Ulti vote

I feel like Scep is looking too much into every small post, which I don’t find to be a good thing tbh. There’s a difference between gaining reads on someone based on their posting, but I feel as if he’s seeking out validation for his thoughts, or assuming things that are not there. Dunno if that’s true about him, but that’s how I’ve felt about him this game.

pj also looking bad for disappearing soon after being questioned while adding very little in the short span that he was here.

Really wish I were here in the moment at certain moments, especially during the whole Nana fiasco. Ead hasn't posted anything since my vote. Does anybody at all know how he plays? I still don't like his behavior at the beginning for a supposed veteran player. Vote hopping comes across as incredibly weak. It's like half pointing at someone then quickly putting your finger down. Ultimately amounts to next to nothing. And he came across as oblivious to votes that were blatantly just Day 1 shenanigans.

Anyway,
##Unvote
##Vote: MZero

Not feeling him as town this game (mostly for the reasons I specified above)
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

I think it is quite the reach to get a backup ___ role and then decide that backup roles are replacement vanillas. It's a leap of logic.

As I said in my post above (I know you haven't had time to read it), we on CE have played at least one game like that, so it isn't a leap in logic by any means.
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VeryInsane posted...

I mean Brohan did explain why he switched to Ulti and MZero but Ulti can't read so...

Not sure if srs, but can we stop with the whole high school level bad blood crap? Seemed as if Ulti was genuinely upset before, which shouldn't be a reaction necessary for a freaking web browser role playing game. I always hated how condescending and toxic some b8 players can get.
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So backup whatever is some weird meta over there? Really?
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Ah there's a good old fashion scum wall

also you people need to learn what bandwagoning means! I jumped on Ulti way after everyone else and for a different reason. You can't just call every vote on someone with a couple votes already a "bandwagon"
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

So backup whatever is some weird meta over there? Really?

It only happened in a couple of games to my knowledge. So not a stretch to assume it could happen again. Especially if Nana's own role is back up. It does come across as odd for there to be three back ups in a game that's not even that large.
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Right now a lot of the people who are posting seem okay to me. I doubt that is right though, I feel like I am easily convinced by people who can be reasonable. I am always especially suspicious of VI. I don't have the benefit of an N0 scan on him this game, and I remember quite distinctly not knowing how to read him when I played Mafia before. He is good at seeming reasonable to me.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I think it is quite the reach to get a backup ___ role and then decide that backup roles are replacement vanillas. It's a leap of logic.

Wouldn't it be even stranger to be scum and make that conclusion? Unless Nana and Gran were scumbuddies who concocted it as a plan between them, I don't see how Nana could do that out of the blue.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

VeryInsane posted...

I mean Brohan did explain why he switched to Ulti and MZero but Ulti can't read so...

Not sure if srs, but can we stop with the whole high school level bad blood crap? Seemed as if Ulti was genuinely upset before, which shouldn't be a reaction necessary for a freaking web browser role playing game. I always hated how condescending and toxic some b8 players can get.

It's actually a joke that he himself made literally a week ago

"Like I read any of the topics I post in"
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Sceptilesolar posted...

Right now a lot of the people who are posting seem okay to me. I doubt that is right though, I feel like I am easily convinced by people who can be reasonable. I am always especially suspicious of VI. I don't have the benefit of an N0 scan on him this game, and I remember quite distinctly not knowing how to read him when I played Mafia before. He is good at seeming reasonable to me.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I think it is quite the reach to get a backup ___ role and then decide that backup roles are replacement vanillas. It's a leap of logic.

Wouldn't it be even stranger to be scum and make that conclusion? Unless Nana and Gran were scumbuddies who concocted it as a plan between them, I don't see how Nana could do that out of the blue.

Mind you I thought mafia vanilla was a role people used but maybe not.
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I don't see anything at all unusual about Goon or Mafia Vanilla on this board, except that there shouldn't be any in this game.
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MZero11 posted...

Ah there's a good old fashion scum wall

also you people need to learn what bandwagoning means! I jumped on Ulti way after everyone else and for a different reason. You can't just call every vote on someone with a couple votes already a "bandwagon"

Scum wall is such a shitty term.

And seems like you need to learn what banddwagon means. All it means is flocking to the most popular whatever, and in this case that whatever seemed to be Ulti as he was being set up as an easy lynch. I'll have to reread your reasoning though. I may be mistaken on that part.
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I don't think there's any real point in getting worked up about an early day 1 train that died really quickly. Actually, I'm a little suspicious of Terra for presenting it as a big deal. I read a theory article recently pointing out that scum is often the first to cry out against a train. I imagine that would be particularly likely on town.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

I don't see anything at all unusual about Goon or Mafia Vanilla on this board, except that there shouldn't be any in this game.

What makes you think that?

VeryInsane posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

VeryInsane posted...

I mean Brohan did explain why he switched to Ulti and MZero but Ulti can't read so...

Not sure if srs, but can we stop with the whole high school level bad blood crap? Seemed as if Ulti was genuinely upset before, which shouldn't be a reaction necessary for a freaking web browser role playing game. I always hated how condescending and toxic some b8 players can get.

It's actually a joke that he himself made literally a week ago

"Like I read any of the topics I post in"

Well hopefully the rest of that drama from before is done then.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

I don't think there's any real point in getting worked up about an early day 1 train that died really quickly. Actually, I'm a little suspicious of Terra for presenting it as a big deal. I read a theory article recently pointing out that scum is often the first to cry out against a train. I imagine that would be particularly likely on town.

I'm not presenting it in a big deal. I mentioned it once. This is exactly what I mean by you look WAY into so many minute things. Not sure if it's a town or scum tell, but I seriously don't like it at all honestly. That's not how you read people properly imo
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Terra-enforcer posted...

MZero11 posted...

Ah there's a good old fashion scum wall

also you people need to learn what bandwagoning means! I jumped on Ulti way after everyone else and for a different reason. You can't just call every vote on someone with a couple votes already a "bandwagon"

Scum wall is such a shitty term.

And seems like you need to learn what banddwagon means. All it means is flocking to the most popular whatever, and in this case that whatever seemed to be Ulti as he was being set up as an easy lynch. I'll have to reread your reasoning though. I may be mistaken on that part.

It is, which is why I didn't vote you for it! But I'll have to see if you do this is as town cause I don't remember

Bandwagoning would mean I jumped on because it was popular. I saw a scummy post, and the guy happened to have 2 votes on him. What am I going to do, not vote him? Not my fault a few others guys were on him about something else
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

I don't think there's any real point in getting worked up about an early day 1 train that died really quickly. Actually, I'm a little suspicious of Terra for presenting it as a big deal. I read a theory article recently pointing out that scum is often the first to cry out against a train. I imagine that would be particularly likely on town.

I'm not presenting it in a big deal. I mentioned it once. This is exactly what I mean by you look WAY into so many minute things. Not sure if it's a town or scum tell, but I seriously don't like it at all honestly. That's not how you read people properly imo

You're voting him for it...
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

I don't think there's any real point in getting worked up about an early day 1 train that died really quickly. Actually, I'm a little suspicious of Terra for presenting it as a big deal. I read a theory article recently pointing out that scum is often the first to cry out against a train. I imagine that would be particularly likely on town.

I'm not presenting it in a big deal. I mentioned it once. This is exactly what I mean by you look WAY into so many minute things. Not sure if it's a town or scum tell, but I seriously don't like it at all honestly. That's not how you read people properly imo

Considering you voted me over it as your only reason, you're presenting it as worth a vote AKA a big deal
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

I don't think there's any real point in getting worked up about an early day 1 train that died really quickly. Actually, I'm a little suspicious of Terra for presenting it as a big deal. I read a theory article recently pointing out that scum is often the first to cry out against a train. I imagine that would be particularly likely on town.

I'm not presenting it in a big deal. I mentioned it once. This is exactly what I mean by you look WAY into so many minute things. Not sure if it's a town or scum tell, but I seriously don't like it at all honestly. That's not how you read people properly imo

And it's actually quite viable looking into a train even if it died. Could be indicative of a player trying to gain town cred by pinning himself with another player. It's also an easy vote in general if you know the other person is town while you're scum. It's not like it was a true early day 1 train either. It was very clearly after the honeymoon phase, so you're wrong there as well.
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Also two votes is hardly a train. I think pj was at two as well and they were both joke votes
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

I don't think there's any real point in getting worked up about an early day 1 train that died really quickly. Actually, I'm a little suspicious of Terra for presenting it as a big deal. I read a theory article recently pointing out that scum is often the first to cry out against a train. I imagine that would be particularly likely on town.

I'm not presenting it in a big deal. I mentioned it once. This is exactly what I mean by you look WAY into so many minute things. Not sure if it's a town or scum tell, but I seriously don't like it at all honestly. That's not how you read people properly imo

And it's actually quite viable looking into a train even if it died. Could be indicative of a player trying to gain town cred by pinning himself with another player. It's also an easy vote in general if you know the other person is town while you're scum. It's not like it was a true early day 1 train either. It was very clearly after the honeymoon phase, so you're wrong there as well.

There were well over 24 hours left in the day, it is hard to take it very seriously. I don't think MZero looks bad at all for voting. However, your reaction to it happened to fit with a scumtell I was looking out for.

In truth, I think jumping on an early train is actually a town thing to do. Scum doesn't like to commit so early.
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MZero11 posted...

Bandwagoning would mean I jumped on because it was popular. I saw a scummy post, and the guy happened to have 2 votes on him. What am I going to do, not vote him? Not my fault a few others guys were on him about something else

Hence why I said it looked like a bandwagon. Ulti barely had time to even do anything increminating and yet you jumped on him with some rather flimsy reasoning.

Sceptilesolar posted...

You're voting him for it...

Yes, for reasons I explained. I'm not certain he's scum or anything, nor is it as if I can't unvote him. I just think that of the people who have posted, his flimsy reasoning in addition to, what I mentioned that you ignored, was that he has had a presence but added very little. The vote wasn't even my entire reason for voting him at all.

The only thing he has going for him is his claim, and I don't that into account much as he's the fourth back up claimed.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Hence why I said it looked like a bandwagon. Ulti barely had time to even do anything increminating and yet you jumped on him with some rather flimsy reasoning.

you mean the same reasoning everyone crucified pj for last game? >_>
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UltimaterializerX posted...

MZero11 posted...

I just don't see what thoughts anyone could even have on this subject. "Umm, go read his posts?"

Just seems like a pointless post. Fluff if you will. Don't like it

Exactly.

Quality MZero post here and I think Brohan might just be scum.

I'm confused
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UltimaterializerX posted...

MZero11 posted...

I just don't see what thoughts anyone could even have on this subject. "Umm, go read his posts?"

Just seems like a pointless post. Fluff if you will. Don't like it

Exactly.

Quality MZero post here and I think Brohan might just be scum.

Uh he's saying the opposite of what you are thinking
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Sceptilesolar posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

I don't think there's any real point in getting worked up about an early day 1 train that died really quickly. Actually, I'm a little suspicious of Terra for presenting it as a big deal. I read a theory article recently pointing out that scum is often the first to cry out against a train. I imagine that would be particularly likely on town.

I'm not presenting it in a big deal. I mentioned it once. This is exactly what I mean by you look WAY into so many minute things. Not sure if it's a town or scum tell, but I seriously don't like it at all honestly. That's not how you read people properly imo

And it's actually quite viable looking into a train even if it died. Could be indicative of a player trying to gain town cred by pinning himself with another player. It's also an easy vote in general if you know the other person is town while you're scum. It's not like it was a true early day 1 train either. It was very clearly after the honeymoon phase, so you're wrong there as well.

There were well over 24 hours left in the day, it is hard to take it very seriously. I don't think MZero looks bad at all for voting. However, your reaction to it happened to fit with a scumtell I was looking out for.

In truth, I think jumping on an early train is actually a town thing to do. Scum doesn't like to commit so early.

What? A town tell? lol
If that was your definition of "early day 1," scum most DEFINITELY would vote whoever to blend in with everyone else, and as I said before, pairing yourself with another player like that if you know they're town to not look scummy is something I've seen scum players do plenty of times before, so that reasoning doesn't work.

And just because there were over 24 hours doesn't mean it isn't out of the honeymoon phase. Do you think we're still early game so votes mean squat now? Because we're still over 24 hours left even now. Once people start applying actual "reason" or attempt to gain legitimate reads on a person, it's very clearly not in the honeymoon phase anymore.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

I don't think there's any real point in getting worked up about an early day 1 train that died really quickly. Actually, I'm a little suspicious of Terra for presenting it as a big deal. I read a theory article recently pointing out that scum is often the first to cry out against a train. I imagine that would be particularly likely on town.

I'm not presenting it in a big deal. I mentioned it once. This is exactly what I mean by you look WAY into so many minute things. Not sure if it's a town or scum tell, but I seriously don't like it at all honestly. That's not how you read people properly imo

And it's actually quite viable looking into a train even if it died. Could be indicative of a player trying to gain town cred by pinning himself with another player. It's also an easy vote in general if you know the other person is town while you're scum. It's not like it was a true early day 1 train either. It was very clearly after the honeymoon phase, so you're wrong there as well.

There were well over 24 hours left in the day, it is hard to take it very seriously. I don't think MZero looks bad at all for voting. However, your reaction to it happened to fit with a scumtell I was looking out for.

In truth, I think jumping on an early train is actually a town thing to do. Scum doesn't like to commit so early.

What? A town tell? lol
If that was your definition of "early day 1," scum most DEFINITELY would vote whoever to blend in with everyone else, and as I said before, pairing yourself with another player like that if you know they're town to not look scummy is something I've seen scum players do plenty of times before, so that reasoning doesn't work.

And just because there were over 24 hours doesn't mean it isn't out of the honeymoon phase. Do you think we're still early game so votes mean squat now? Because we're still over 24 hours left even now. Once people start applying actual "reason" or attempt to gain legitimate reads on a person, it's very clearly not in the honeymoon phase anymore.

I don't know why you're so stuck in this honeymoon phase thing. The train was clearly meaningless.

Also I've noticed you've gotten very defensive in the last couple of posts. Very prickly.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Meta_Knight123 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Meta_Knight123 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

I mean if you don't like the direction that's fine but you can try to at the very least change the subject or bring something up that's new

There is no direction game seems to be traveling in circles. I think NaNa is town mainly becuase after re reading It looked like people were just chunking scum for a kidna bad reason.

How is my reason bad?

Mind telling me what your reason is again? After re reading all I remembered is that the claim felt weird but ben made a decent point. You can say its TMI but if NaNa rolled a backup like he claimed then he would know theres backups in the game right?

I think it is quite the reach to get a backup ___ role and then decide that backup roles are replacement vanillas. It's a leap of logic.

But if you'd rather kill Death that's cool tool. More than one scum to murder after all.

I mean I liked deaths early contribution more than NaNa's but I mean theres still scum left to find..
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Sceptilesolar posted...

I don't know why you're so stuck in this honeymoon phase thing. The train was clearly meaningless.

Also I've noticed you've gotten very defensive in the last couple of posts. Very prickly.

VI's vote, sure. But MZero clearly tried to explain himself for jumping on the bandwagon, which is something I've literally seen scum do before. Not saying that alone incriminates him, but it adds to the reasons while he has nothing going for him really.

And yet again you ignore the fact that's only HALF of my reasoning.

Not getting defensive, just explaining myself. Funny enough, getting defensive is just what Scare and pj said last game to try to get me lynched last game when I wasn't being defensive there either (just explaining my reasoning).

The "getting defensive" reasoning works even less here than in that game. Here you're the only one who's pushing for me. So I sure as hell have no reason to get "defensive" in order to convince one person (the same person who I already said is doing some pretty dumb things and doesn't even look all that town himself) that I'm town.
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