Board 8 > A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 8 - Dead History Is Writ In Ink

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The living sort in blood.

The Living Sort (11):
1) bng_mmmk
5) HanOfTheNekos
6) htaeD
7) Jeff_Zero
8) Leafeon13N
9) Leo3L
11) My_Immortal
13) Nanahara715
15) Shaduln
16) Vengeful_KBM
17) VeryInsane

Dead History:
LD1: FFD - The High Sparrow, TOWN Bulletproof
KN1: Scare - Brienne of Tarth, TOWN Double Voting Protector
KN1: Stan - Doran Martell, TOWN Ninja Cop
LD2: dowolf - Osney Kettleblack, TOWN Vanilla
KN2: MajinZidane - Marillion, TOWN Bodyguard
KN2: DoomTheGyarados - Victarion Greyjoy, GREYJOY Persistant Strongman Vigilante

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch! Day ends at 9 PM CST on Sunday.
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I'm fine with ending this day early if Shad is going to no-show, but I still want people to try to organize their thoughts before that happens.
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Nana is the only one really that has said basically nothing.

Current Day 3 Votals

[3]Shad: Leo, Death, Jeff
[2]Han: Shad, puns

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Day ends at 9 PM CST on Sunday.

(Day 2 ending votals)
[7] dowolf: (KBM), (MI), (Death), Boko, (Leo), VI, Shad, MI, (KBM), (Leo), Jeff, KBM, Han
[6] VI: Nana, (Chris), dowolf, (Puns), (Chris), puns, Chris, Leo, red
[1] Puns: (Chris), (Shad), death
[0] Shad: (Puns), (Leo), (MI), (red), (Leo), (puns), (puns), (Chris), (KBM)
[0] Leo: (Chris)
[0] death: (VI), (Han), (MI), (KBM), (Shad)
[0] Jeff: (dowolf)
[0] Nana: (MI)

(Day 1 ending votals)
[7] FFD: red, death, (Leo), KBM, Scare, Jeff, puns, Leo
[5] puns: Shad, Stan, Han, (dowolf), Nana, Scare2
[2] dowolf: (Chris), (MI), (Leo), MI, VI, (puns), (Leo)
[1] Han: (puns), FFD
[1] Leo: Chris, (MI)
[1] Nana: (Chris), (KBM), (MI), (KBM), (Stan), dowolf
[0] Chris: (puns), (Scare), (Nana)
[0] death: (VI)
[0] MysteriousStan: (Han), (dowolf), (Jeff Zero), (puns), (Leo), (death)
[0] Scare: (Leo), (Stan), (puns), (Death)
[0] Boko: (MI), (KBM)
[0] VI: (Chris)
[0] red: (VI), (KBM)
[0] MI: (puns)
[0] Jeff: (Nana)
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I am thinking it's Nana/KBM/one of Han/puns/Leo at this moment

If it's Leo he is indy

Faking a bus driver sounds so convoluted and unnecessary that I am tempted to just buy MI
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I still am wondering how scum knew of the bus though

I like my scum tracker targeting MI idea but it's not a guarantee
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I'm also really curious why Nana hasn't said anything. I want to hear more from him ASAP. That's my main thing right now, is I want to hear from him. Gut's got me thinking he's scum now.

Hearing from Shad is beginning to sound like a pipedream, but if he does hop in, that could make things even more interesting. What are even the odds he's town? Like 5%? >_>
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red13n posted...

Awfully presumptuous of where I was going with that puns, but you were off a little bit.

I wasn't presuming where you were going with it, your post just reminded me of Chris's big bold declaration involving me. You're right though that he wasn't suggesting I was town. Presumably because scum need mislynches to win.

htaeD posted...

I was roleblocked again btw, which probably means my power isnt as unthreatening to them as thought
tried to scan Puns

the fact that a bodyguard died, makes me think better about Shad as well, since they probably shot at him
town roleblocker is a scary to them

am I setting records for most times targeted/attempted targeted in a mafia game yet?

death claiming roleblocked makes the fact boko flipped bg very interesting. if death is truly blocked by scum that means they probably wouldn't have shot him.


Leafeon13N posted...

Wait you u literally tried to argue that Chris and his ego thinks hes going to die soon?

He claimed vig on day 2, in what way is that not a death sentence?


HanOfTheNekos posted...

However, like I said, in my Town/Scum D1 lynch scenario, he looked a lot worse there, so I figured his lynch would reveal more info. VI ended the day on neither puns nor FFD - keeping his hands clean meant less to reveal from the flip.

dowolf ended day 1 on nana.
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You know I remember Chris fighting with both Nana and KBM

Wonder if those were acts
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Scum Chris felt right when death claimed on day 2 but we were too deep at that point with him not being countered in any way for me to justify going for him instead in my mind. I think it was still the right choice to give it a night to resolve itself, now here we are. And moving forward I'm absolutely going to presume Chris was planning to go down, or at least considering it likely while plotting things.
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Well, like I said, at least a little bit of his fighting felt potentially disingenuous to me.
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The only thing that didn't is he wanted to set me on fire

And maybe Leo too
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Or perhaps the correct phrasing is "send us to he Drowned God"
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2-1 with classic Jund tag
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I wonder if scum is just beyond pissed about Leo's role
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##Unvote

being the only one on a lynch with shad #feelsbadman

Still not a fan of Han but my vote isn't going to apply any pressure at this point. Gonna get some food in me and reread to see how and when Chris/Han interacted. I should be ok with finishing the shad lynch by tonight.
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VeryInsane posted...

I wonder if scum is just beyond pissed about Leo's role

I like to think so
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Nana has been pretty disappointing ever since a lot of people called him town early early d1. I'll probably vote him tomorrow if I'm around
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What do people think of

KBM
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Same thing as nana
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Yeah

One two punch of Chris being vigged and Leo's role being able to target other players really deflated scum IMO
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If I was able to get a third person do you think Scare or Boko would talk more
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I think Scare would talk more for sure but I would find Boko's actions more interesting
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*dances*

MI says Shad took no actions.

Death claims roleblocked.

If Shad is town, the only way he took no action is if he was roleblocked [by scum]. So if Shad flips town, then Death is necessarily scum lying about being roleblocked.

Still think KBM is scum. Been saying this since the end of day 1.
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Vengeful_KBM posted...

Goddammit I just typed up this whole post and then I reflexively pressed F5 and it's gone. Should have typed it up in Notepad like I usually do.

Anyway, the gist was that I don't see the argument on VI and I think dowolf is being quite opportunistic in leaping to the VI train. A leap which seems to at least in part be predicated on the idea that a scum VI is lying about a literal hit and run to make himself look better in a mafia game. That's not something y'all should be factoring in here. I've been accused of doing this kind of thing before - every single time as town - so I'm not feeling good about this lynch and I'm feeling the worst about dowolf's opportunistic vote.

Meanwhile I still don't like Death and he, too, seems a reasonable alternative to the random VI train.

And I know Chris is going to yell at me for calling the VI train random, but I'm not talking about Chris' vote, which actually makes a certain amount of sense (even though he also goes on to call a hit and run convenient); I more just don't buy dowolf jumping to it at all. In his vote post he says

dowolf posted...

Thinking on things overnight, I really want to go after Death or VI, where the question is mostly, do I want to go after the person who either bowed really quickly under pressure or showed critical thinking? Or do I want to go after the guy who double down on aggression?

But then we go back to how things were last night, where I pointed out how VI was basically inactive for the last half-hour before lynch. If I am right regarding it being a town/town/town lynch at the end there -- and, quite frankly, I am willing to bet the house that it was -- what will scum want to do? Well, they will want to stay quiet and make sure it's town that winds up looking bad for pushing the death of whoever flips town. Shit adds up.

This feels to me like "well, of the two lynches that look the most likely to me right now, one of them is an easy target because Chris will scream at anybody who doesn't vote him (editor's note: the idea that Chris' play has changed at all is just funny to me now) and the other one is my scumbuddy so I'll turn this on VI".

I just really don't like it, it feels really disingenuous, and it ties into my feelings on his random swap to Nana at the end of Day 1.

Then the other two people are Nana, who's clearly flailing for any sort of read whatsoever so my scum read has DEFINITELY lessened - and Puns who .... uhh isn't the most trustworthy person either right now.

(I said "this is the gist" but I almost got to the length of the previous post anyway wooo)

You know I remembered this post, looked it up, and remembered why I hated it

Puts a lot of focus on dowolf's vote and misinterprets his meaning. While at the same time minimizes Chris's and Nana's votes
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Nanahara715 posted...

*dances*

MI says Shad took no actions.

Death claims roleblocked.

If Shad is town, the only way he took no action is if he was roleblocked [by scum]. So if Shad flips town, then Death is necessarily scum lying about being roleblocked.

Still think KBM is scum. Been saying this since the end of day 1.

Hi Nana. What do you think of me?
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Anyway I'm gonna be driving in a sweet rental car for a few hours see you guys in a bit I hope to see your answer Nana
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bng_mmmk posted...

red13n posted...

Awfully presumptuous of where I was going with that puns, but you were off a little bit.

I wasn't presuming where you were going with it, your post just reminded me of Chris's big bold declaration involving me. You're right though that he wasn't suggesting I was town. Presumably because scum need mislynches to win.

htaeD posted...

I was roleblocked again btw, which probably means my power isnt as unthreatening to them as thought
tried to scan Puns

the fact that a bodyguard died, makes me think better about Shad as well, since they probably shot at him
town roleblocker is a scary to them

am I setting records for most times targeted/attempted targeted in a mafia game yet?

death claiming roleblocked makes the fact boko flipped bg very interesting. if death is truly blocked by scum that means they probably wouldn't have shot him.


Leafeon13N posted...

Wait you u literally tried to argue that Chris and his ego thinks hes going to die soon?

He claimed vig on day 2, in what way is that not a death sentence?


HanOfTheNekos posted...

However, like I said, in my Town/Scum D1 lynch scenario, he looked a lot worse there, so I figured his lynch would reveal more info. VI ended the day on neither puns nor FFD - keeping his hands clean meant less to reveal from the flip.

dowolf ended day 1 on nana.

dowolf ended day 1 by pulling his vote off of you.

That looked potentially like Scum protecting a Scumbuddy. The timing was awkward, but him flipping Town means it doesn't mean anything.


In the Town/Town scenario, Nana was the only person who looked particularly worse, iirc.
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I see no problem with ending the day today. This is a bad weekend for me to be active + Shad is all but confirmed.
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I am annoyed at the lack of nana

VeryInsane posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

*dances*

MI says Shad took no actions.

Death claims roleblocked.

If Shad is town, the only way he took no action is if he was roleblocked [by scum]. So if Shad flips town, then Death is necessarily scum lying about being roleblocked.

Still think KBM is scum. Been saying this since the end of day 1.

Hi Nana. What do you think of me?

I don't think that Just because one guy on your lynch flipped scum that absolves you of anything. I still like you as scum with KBM.
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Oh, Immy is certainly town. If he's scum that means they blew the bus drive going into Day 2 knowing Chris would claim vig. If Immy were scum, the better play, knowing CHRis was claiming vig, would have been to bus Chris on N2 to blow any potential town vig shot and force town to lynch him and getting a bonus kill
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So are we just going to end day tonight then? 10pm EDT?
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I'm comfortable doing so if other people are. I'll be around for more posting at some point before then.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

So are we just going to end day tonight then? 10pm EDT?

Basically done at this point, tbh.

Supremely Accurate Votals:
[3]Shad: Leo, Death, Jeff
[1]Han: Shad, (puns)

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Day ends at 9 PM CST on Sunday.
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##Vote: shad
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My Immortal posted...

Tag

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Nanahara715 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

*dances*

MI says Shad took no actions.

Death claims roleblocked.

If Shad is town, the only way he took no action is if he was roleblocked [by scum]. So if Shad flips town, then Death is necessarily scum lying about being roleblocked.

Still think KBM is scum. Been saying this since the end of day 1.

Hi Nana. What do you think of me?

I don't think that Just because one guy on your lynch flipped scum that absolves you of anything. I still like you as scum with KBM.

Took you long enough to mention me. Usually you tunnel super hard as Town.

Also the KBM statement you made earlier feels fake considering you never voted her nor really made any move towards her.

I would love to hear from Death but if you guys want to end it I'm ok
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VeryInsane posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

*dances*

MI says Shad took no actions.

Death claims roleblocked.

If Shad is town, the only way he took no action is if he was roleblocked [by scum]. So if Shad flips town, then Death is necessarily scum lying about being roleblocked.

Still think KBM is scum. Been saying this since the end of day 1.

Hi Nana. What do you think of me?

I don't think that Just because one guy on your lynch flipped scum that absolves you of anything. I still like you as scum with KBM.

Took you long enough to mention me. Usually you tunnel super hard as Town.

Also the KBM statement you made earlier feels fake considering you never voted her nor really made any move towards her.

I would love to hear from Death but if you guys want to end it I'm ok

Took me long enough to mention you? The fuck does that mean?
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KBM was not a viable lynch at the end of day 1 so I couldn't make a move, and now I feel you're scum and more dangerous than KBM, so why would I be moving that way right now?
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God I love Jund
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Yeah Jund is pretty great
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Nanahara715 posted...

*dances*

MI says Shad took no actions.

Death claims roleblocked.

If Shad is town, the only way he took no action is if he was roleblocked [by scum]. So if Shad flips town, then Death is necessarily scum lying about being roleblocked.

Still think KBM is scum. Been saying this since the end of day 1.

hey Nana
Shad would have said so if he was roleblocked

plus there is the fact that according to Leo, Shad didnt roleblock Stan on night1 at all
so if Shad does somehow flip town, why arent you looking at Leo?
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Nanahara715 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

*dances*

MI says Shad took no actions.

Death claims roleblocked.

If Shad is town, the only way he took no action is if he was roleblocked [by scum]. So if Shad flips town, then Death is necessarily scum lying about being roleblocked.

Still think KBM is scum. Been saying this since the end of day 1.

Hi Nana. What do you think of me?

I don't think that Just because one guy on your lynch flipped scum that absolves you of anything. I still like you as scum with KBM.

Took you long enough to mention me. Usually you tunnel super hard as Town.

Also the KBM statement you made earlier feels fake considering you never voted her nor really made any move towards her.

I would love to hear from Death but if you guys want to end it I'm ok

Took me long enough to mention you? The fuck does that mean?

For being your top scum target Day 2 I'm surprised you never took a single glance my way
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VeryInsane posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

*dances*

MI says Shad took no actions.

Death claims roleblocked.

If Shad is town, the only way he took no action is if he was roleblocked [by scum]. So if Shad flips town, then Death is necessarily scum lying about being roleblocked.

Still think KBM is scum. Been saying this since the end of day 1.

Hi Nana. What do you think of me?

I don't think that Just because one guy on your lynch flipped scum that absolves you of anything. I still like you as scum with KBM.

Took you long enough to mention me. Usually you tunnel super hard as Town.

Also the KBM statement you made earlier feels fake considering you never voted her nor really made any move towards her.

I would love to hear from Death but if you guys want to end it I'm ok

Took me long enough to mention you? The fuck does that mean?

For being your top scum target Day 2 I'm surprised you never took a single glance my way

I've made very few posts today, mostly asking for clarifications from last night because I didn't have time to get too involved. Once I was caught up, like, and hour ago, I listed you as still probably scum. So I think it's purposefully obtuse and ingenuous to say I'm not glancing at you.
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Anyways, here is Nana's patented "this is 100% the gamestate and how it goes down felm here."

[incoming huge post but at a wedding so don't end day]
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