Board 8 > ~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win

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I'm a little surprised you didn't hold that for a little longer in the day Scare.

Also at work will be home in a few hours or so.

Also KBM you cant just do that.

Well you can but... I dont see the wisdom in such.

Vengeful_KBM posted...

And radio silence.

I mean, I said my piece. Like Red and I have both alluded to, Scare probably should have played his cards closer to his chest; but he didn't, which means we're lynching Plum in about 24 hours, and the day is largely going to grind to a halt until then. So it goes.
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I want to hear why Scare scanned plum first.

... Since the day's going to grind to a halt anyway apparently, anyone want to ask me anything?
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Well, the obvious question is you've popped into the topic multiple times and done nothing. What do you think?

Just got to the cabin. Driving all evening.

Always nice to see Mr. Mafia himself be wrong. Not that I enjoy 3 town deaths but still.

Lots to catch up on. Will read before bed but don't expect much out of me this evening. It's been a long day and I'm on my phone.
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Leafeon13N posted...

Well, the obvious question is you've popped into the topic multiple times and done nothing. What do you think?

About... what?
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Anything. Give me something to read you by.

Leafeon13N posted...

Anything. Give me something to read you by.

Have you given us anything to read you by?

Wait, I can answer that.
You said Sceptile seemed pissy.

Was there something else of value you said that I missed?
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That was a lot less to read than I thought
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Lolo, early in topic 1 you quickly voted Sceptile. Since then, you haven't really talked about him at all, yet kept your vote on him at the end of Day 1. Thoughts on him?

Don't really have much to comment on the Scare scan other than I may have been reading the game way worse than I initially thought.
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Screw it, I'm done waiting for Scare.

I scanned Pez guilty last night. I don't have any solid information on Scare but I doubt we have two straight-up scanners, and if he were claiming anything else like a jack or something he would have stuck around to elaborate.

We have two scum dead to rights here and neither one is Plum.

(And I was definitely planning on sitting on this information for awhile longer but Scare's kinda forced my hand if everybody's just going to be content to let the day grind to a halt apparently.)

So yeah, now that that's out after Scare pointedly did NOT respond to my comments/questions...

##Unvote
##Vote: Pezloco

Back to the person I have actual information on.

Also say this is also too early to reveal this kind of info if you want, but dammit this is one, if not two, more scum than Chris caught us so I feel pretty good about revealing this right now.

...Oh huh

Man so much of my thought process right now relies on waiting for plum and Scare just to see reactions @_@
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Well scare isn't going to fake a scan on day 2. Scum can't possibly win at this point. So I'm welling to take scare at face however why not scan chris his day 1 arch nemesis?

Also I'm convinced pezloco is scum even though he clearly thinks I'm the bees knees. So for good measure till scare comes back.
##vote:pez
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Obellisk posted...

Well scare isn't going to fake a scan on day 2.

You sure about that? :p

Good vote, though.

Oh shit, kbm I could kiss you
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Vengeful_KBM posted...

Obellisk posted...

Well scare isn't going to fake a scan on day 2.

You sure about that? :p

Good vote, though.

Scum cant be at end game, where is the benefit.

And if plum were town, where the fuck is his reaction. He was just here
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Oh that was 2 hours ago. Lololololol

Nvm
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...So you think there are two dedicated scanners, then?

Vengeful_KBM posted...

...So you think there are two dedicated scanners, then?

You scanned pezloco guilty. He scanned plum scum. But he could be tracker and scanned plum to Chris where as you are a cup. So yes. I could see that. 2 diffevent one off scanners plus jail keeper plus ????

This is all hypothetical of top of my head of course. But it's feasable
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I mean, Scare is kinda around.

I just saw him pop up in the SNES classic topic so yeah
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Oh and sceptics, I'm not a waffle.

Jerk.
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Vengeful_KBM posted...

...So you think there are two dedicated scanners, then?

...

is this chris's waifu mafia all over again
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If Scare is a jack, why the hell would he announce this?

Like.

We test both of you by lynching the people you have claimed to be scum. We do so in whatever order (though I'd rather Plum first tbqh). It would have been nice if both of you had been more coy but whatever. You weren't. We move on, and we have a pair of happy fun lynches to occupy us for the next two days.
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also all I'm really getting out of this is that my d1 gut was apparently incredible.

i should really trust it more. I blame my gut liking Puns last game leading to me doubting it here.
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dowolf posted...

If Scare is a jack, why the hell would he announce this?

Honestly I'm having a tough time with "why would he do this" in the first place, regardless of alignment. But the likelihood of him being scum seems greater to me than the likelihood of there being two cops in the game. And yeah, I really feel like he wouldn't have dropped that scan in here like this if he was claiming anything but cop.

You can see why I went back to Pez, however. That's actionable information.

I calied pezloco early. Thanks kbm.
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Vengeful_KBM posted...

And yeah, I really feel like he wouldn't have dropped that scan in here like this if he was claiming anything but cop.

Actually, if he were a jack, that makes it more likely he would simply drop the scan like that. A cop scan is a jack's most powerful ability; if he draws the scum blocker after using it, that leaves the real cop free to use his abilities willy-nilly.
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I do wish @ScareChan would get in here to defend his own damn self instead of letting dowolf do it. >_>

I mean, it's midnight on the east coast. There's a decent chance Scare is currently asleep >_>

Though he did post a half-hour ago elsewhere on B8 so.
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I almost did this at beginning of day. I knew I was going to be scanned.

@masterplum

I think Tom has only ever voted for me if I've actually been scum (or he was). So, his vote as confirmed town is super damning. But something else that was a first. I've always been able to move his vote except on occasion when he was voting me. I couldn't convince him Oddity was a bad lynch. I know for a fact that I've never failed to convince him that a person who was later confirmed to be town was a bad lynch.

Now add in that roommate powers have been brought up multiple times, and as a perfect WIFOM you kill virtually confirmed town Tom to make Pez look bad.

I'm miller. Flavor Saigo Tanomo. My love for my country has lead me to question my lords. After voicing my concerns, those around me question my loyalty to the Shogunate.

Vengeful_KBM posted...

Also say this is also too early to reveal this kind of info if you want, but dammit this is one, if not two, more scum than Chris caught us so I feel pretty good about revealing this right now.

By the way, as soon as you voted Scare you told mafia you were a scanner. You just didn't tell town. You should've claimed then probably. I held off on my miller claim on the off chance that you wouldn't have to outright say you were cop.
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why didn't you claim miller in your first post of the game
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Lolo_Guru posted...

why didn't you claim miller in your first post of the game

My aversion to revealing info.
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did you leave any hints or breadcrumbs?
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Lolo_Guru posted...

why didn't you claim miller in your first post of the game

Also, I was on my phone rocking my kid to sleep. I couldn't have a post prepared as I was at the end of bedtime for my kids. My kid was fussing and naturally I was only on my phone. My first post, I thought I caught scept making a point that didn't make sense. I was wrong about it when I looked back at topic 2. By the time I came back KBM was already voting me. I realized she was cop, but I didn't want to give it away.
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dowolf posted...

did you leave any hints or breadcrumbs?

I don't know how to hint miller to be honest. I was trying my best to convince Tom I was town. He seems to be the only one who can help me usually. Like I said yesterday I was shocked that I couldn't convince Tom that Oddity was town. It was the first time he trusted mafia people over me (regardless of my alignment).

Tom Bombadil posted...

pezloco posted...

I didn't find the evidence damning at all.

well I do! good talk

This post here. I didn't know what to do after this. Like I said, I've always been able to sway him. This was after my larger post on Oddity, which he went back and read. After this I didn't know what else to do. I wasn't interested in the B8 special. My only hope with Tom then was that after Oddity flipping town he'd come around.
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I mean, if I were miller and was expecting to be scanned, I would at least drop some hints to my flavor or something.

Or I'd just preemptively claim miller.

Still. The biggest plus in your favor is that we see Plum going after you right out of the gate. That's not insignificant.
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Isn't the main reason to preemptively claim miller to avoid people wasting their scan on you? >_>

I mean, to that end, claiming miller at the start of day 2 is a whole lot worse for everyone involved than just claiming it day 1.
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Lolo_Guru posted...

Isn't the main reason to preemptively claim miller to avoid people wasting their scan on you? >_>

I mean, to that end, claiming miller at the start of day 2 is a whole lot worse for everyone involved than just claiming it day 1.

I don't like D1 claims. I think they benefit the mafia always more than the town. I don't think I've ever seen a miller claim that didn't look bad. Plus, I left my vote on Death (still think he's scum). If I'm right scum knows I'm onto them, makes me look like a good target for some scum action. At least let's them WIFOM themselves. If I claim miller I give them a chance to setup a WIFOM on me for their own benefit.
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I believe KBM's claim more than I believe Scare's. Doubt KBM CC's there as scum.

##Vote: pez
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And you claim miller immediately to A) avoid making cop waste scan and B) not look like shit if you get scanned
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https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/75591984

new topic because I'm going to sleep so go ahead and move over~
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