Board 8 > A Dance With Dragons Mafia-Topic 11:Not All Men Were Meant To Dance With Dragons

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Suprak the Stud
10/04/18 11:06:49 PM
#1:


Dragons (THE LIVING):
1) DoubleTangicide
2) dowolf
3) htaeD
4) IfGodCouldDie
5) masterplum
6) Meow1000
7) MZero11
8) Neablis
9) Obellisk
10) ScareChan
11) Shaduln
12) Viserion

Total Drags (THE DECEASED):
LD1 - red: Varys, TARGARYEN Role Swapper
MKD1 - ben: Barristan Selmy, TARGARYEN Bulletproof Roleblocker
KN1 - Chris: Qyburn, TOWN Protector
KN1 - MI: Jon Snow, TOWN Warg
LD2 - Sheep: Arya Stark, TOWN Vanilla
MKD2 - Harris: Night King, TOWN Dead Empowerer
KD2 - ImGhostWoofWoof: Ghost, TOWN Direwolf
KN2 - Han: Three-Eyed Crow, TOWN Greenseer

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch! Day ends at 10 PM CST Friday!

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MZero11
10/04/18 11:22:13 PM
#2:


Obellisk posted...
MZero11 posted...
dowolf posted...
MZero11 posted...
Obellisk posted...
and whatever you targeted sheep with was inconclusive and so you pressed on?


Well I knew at least part of his claim was legit

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and you watched him die?


I mean someone hammered after I said I was going to catch up

I came back to the day already over

Also I defended him throughout the day but I didn't want to reveal anything


And you believe that because you were roleblocked when you targeted dowolf he must be responsible.


Well it's definitely confirmation bias. I thought he was scum regardless. Even if someone else blocked me, I still think dowolf is scum regardless. But his reaction makes sense as an untargetable
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ScareChan
10/04/18 11:22:31 PM
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Obellisk
10/04/18 11:24:44 PM
#4:


because how could another roleblocked exist with a dead jail keep and scumblocker?
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Neablis
10/04/18 11:25:13 PM
#5:


Mzero seriously stop ignoring everyone and just claim what you have been doing make it a hard claim
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dowolf
10/04/18 11:25:43 PM
#6:


first of all: you woke up at 11:00 a.m.?

second: it did not occur to you to check votals before trying to read the entire topic?

third: while you often made posts from the framework of thinking Sheep's town, I see no fullthroated defenses of him. At all.
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dowolf
10/04/18 11:26:29 PM
#7:


like you say things like "After I was asked twice, and all I said is you look bad if Sheep is town. That's hardly an "attack" but alright!"

but that's so weak.
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dowolf
10/04/18 11:28:19 PM
#8:


Also someone mentioned that Viserion or whatever is likely aligned with scum? So why did it vote Sheep at the end instead, if Sheep is indeed scum?

and there's that i guess.

since i feel like you're going to yell at me if i don't also quote that.
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MZero11
10/04/18 11:28:33 PM
#9:


Obellisk posted...
because how could another roleblocked exist with a dead jail keep and scumblocker?


Seems excessive, although I could see a limited use blocker maybe
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dowolf
10/04/18 11:29:11 PM
#10:


...MZero.

Mzero posted on d2
Hey Sheep want to claim your real role? Lots of people want your head today


Why did you make this post?
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Obellisk
10/04/18 11:30:14 PM
#11:


dowolf posted...
...MZero.

Mzero posted on d2
Hey Sheep want to claim your real role? Lots of people want your head today


Why did you make this post?


excellent find
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dowolf
10/04/18 11:30:22 PM
#12:


(it's topic 6 page 7, if anyone else wants to give it a look-see)
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MZero11
10/04/18 11:31:50 PM
#13:


dowolf posted...
first of all: you woke up at 11:00 a.m.?

second: it did not occur to you to check votals before trying to read the entire topic?

third: while you often made posts from the framework of thinking Sheep's town, I see no fullthroated defenses of him. At all.


First of all: yes I usually wake up at 10 or 11am. I work from 2pm until 10pm and go to sleep around 2 or 3 in the morning.

Second: I did check votals, wasn't expecting the hammer

Third of all: I knew he was vanilla but scum vanilla exists
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dowolf
10/04/18 11:32:34 PM
#14:


MZero11 posted...

Third of all: I knew he was vanilla but scum vanilla exists

dowolf posted...
...MZero.

Mzero posted on d2
Hey Sheep want to claim your real role? Lots of people want your head today


Why did you make this post?


KILL IT KILL IT WITH FIRE.
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Neablis
10/04/18 11:33:10 PM
#15:


You done goofed

##vote mzero
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MZero11
10/04/18 11:33:33 PM
#16:


dowolf posted...
...MZero.

Mzero posted on d2
Hey Sheep want to claim your real role? Lots of people want your head today


Why did you make this post?


I wanted to see if he would change it out of tracker/watcher fear

Anyway no point in hiding anymore I'm roleclop and my flavor is Wyman Manderly
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dowolf
10/04/18 11:34:08 PM
#17:


Owned.

mafia

OWNED
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Neablis
10/04/18 11:36:06 PM
#18:


So your a rolecop who wants to play someo e you che ked to see if they will roll over out of fear of a tracker watcher?

LOL the. Let the person dje
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ScareChan
10/04/18 11:37:39 PM
#19:


rule 4

miz is always scum
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MZero11
10/04/18 11:37:52 PM
#20:


Neablis posted...
So your a rolecop who wants to play someo e you che ked to see if they will roll over out of fear of a tracker watcher?

LOL the. Let the person dje


The result agreed with his claim, there wasn't much else value to it

It was 0 risk low reward. Why not try it?
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Neablis
10/04/18 11:39:08 PM
#21:


MZero11 posted...
Neablis posted...
So your a rolecop who wants to play someo e you che ked to see if they will roll over out of fear of a tracker watcher?

LOL the. Let the person dje


The result agreed with his claim, there wasn't much else value to it

It was 0 risk low reward. Why not try it?


But then when he does not roll over you vote me and do not attempt to save him really when there was a chance of it?

Usually scare tactics result in results, ie scare causing pirate to jump around.
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Neablis
10/04/18 11:40:09 PM
#22:


Im going to bed will read in morning answer
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Shaduln
10/04/18 11:41:05 PM
#23:


dowolf posted...
MZero11 posted...

Third of all: I knew he was vanilla but scum vanilla exists

dowolf posted...
...MZero.

Mzero posted on d2
Hey Sheep want to claim your real role? Lots of people want your head today


Why did you make this post?


KILL IT KILL IT WITH FIRE.

Holy shit.
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dowolf
10/04/18 11:41:40 PM
#24:


can't fall asleep yet over here.

got far too much ADRENALINE pumping through my veins!
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MZero11
10/04/18 11:41:49 PM
#25:


Neablis posted...
But then when he does not roll over you vote me and do not attempt to save him really when there was a chance of it?

Usually scare tactics result in results, ie scare causing pirate to jump around.


He could have been Scum Vanilla. Obviously I wasn't going full throttle to save him

And if you read my post a good portion of my attack on you was assuming Sheep was Town anyway
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MZero11
10/04/18 11:42:38 PM
#26:


I mean if you guy want to kill the role cop because you can't see a simple as hell gambit then like ok
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Obellisk
10/04/18 11:42:52 PM
#27:


Protector (doc/block; posiondoc)
Warg (double voter; extra voter)
ThreeEyedCrow (can see dead chat)
DeadKingGuy (can give dead one extra vote)
Commuter (commuter)
Ninja (??)
Rolecop

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Obellisk
10/04/18 11:45:00 PM
#28:


Obellisk posted...
Protector (doc/block; posiondoc)
Warg (double voter; extra voter)
ThreeEyedCrow (can see dead chat)
DeadKingGuy (can give dead one extra vote)
Commuter (commuter)
Ninja (??)
Rolecop
Mayor

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Neablis
10/04/18 11:45:20 PM
#29:


Just for my information generally are games here limited to one each of a set type protectoe/cop and the subsets?

And no mzero that doesnt make sense to me. You base your scumread of me on the fact that sheep is town but you as a cop do not push at all basically off someo e you think has a more likely chance of being town now
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dowolf
10/04/18 11:47:22 PM
#30:


wasn't it a lawyer, not a mayor?
Neablis posted...
Just for my information generally are games here limited to one each of a set type protectoe/cop and the subsets?

Generally, yes.

Granted, this game is, uh... "Not normal," to say the least.
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MZero11
10/04/18 11:48:44 PM
#31:


Neablis posted...
And no mzero that doesnt make sense to me. You base your scumread of me on the fact that sheep is town but you as a cop do not push at all basically off someo e you think has a more likely chance of being town now


*facedesk*

I tried to push off Sheep, I just Viserion voting him instead of claiming my role. I wasn't going to overextend since he was just as likely to be scum vanilla as town vanilla anyway based on my info.
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dowolf
10/04/18 11:51:33 PM
#32:


MZero11 posted...

I tried to push off Sheep, I just Viserion voting him instead of claiming my role. I wasn't going to overextend since he was just as likely to be scum vanilla as town vanilla anyway based on my info.

not true, but it's kinda late at night for me to give a probability lesson.

i'm just gonna go with the blanket statement of "you can't be assuming he's town when you're making half your posts, and then suddenly act otherwise at key moments."
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Obellisk
10/04/18 11:51:44 PM
#33:


dowolf posted...
wasn't it a lawyer, not a mayor?
Neablis posted...
Just for my information generally are games here limited to one each of a set type protectoe/cop and the subsets?

Generally, yes.

Granted, this game is, uh... "Not normal," to say the least.


aren't they the same thing?
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Obellisk
10/04/18 11:53:42 PM
#34:


(and I see igcd stuck around)
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dowolf
10/04/18 11:54:07 PM
#35:


Obellisk posted...
dowolf posted...
wasn't it a lawyer, not a mayor?
Neablis posted...
Just for my information generally are games here limited to one each of a set type protectoe/cop and the subsets?

Generally, yes.

Granted, this game is, uh... "Not normal," to say the least.


aren't they the same thing?

Mayor forces no lynch, lawyer redirects lynch.
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Obellisk
10/04/18 11:56:27 PM
#36:


dowolf posted...
Obellisk posted...
dowolf posted...
wasn't it a lawyer, not a mayor?
Neablis posted...
Just for my information generally are games here limited to one each of a set type protectoe/cop and the subsets?

Generally, yes.

Granted, this game is, uh... "Not normal," to say the least.


aren't they the same thing?

Mayor forces no lynch, lawyer redirects lynch.


ahh. the more you know
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dowolf
10/05/18 12:00:47 AM
#37:


okay the adrenaline has left the building.

g'night all pleasure hunting scum with ya.
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Obellisk
10/05/18 12:02:13 AM
#38:


goodnight.
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ScareChan
10/05/18 12:04:36 AM
#39:


thoughts sbell?
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Obellisk
10/05/18 12:07:35 AM
#40:


ScareChan posted...
thoughts sbell?


thoughts.
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Obellisk
10/05/18 12:13:08 AM
#41:


sleep now.

maybe thoughts in the morning
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MZero11
10/05/18 12:16:57 AM
#42:


dowolf posted...
MZero11 posted...

I tried to push off Sheep, I just Viserion voting him instead of claiming my role. I wasn't going to overextend since he was just as likely to be scum vanilla as town vanilla anyway based on my info.

not true, but it's kinda late at night for me to give a probability lesson.

i'm just gonna go with the blanket statement of "you can't be assuming he's town when you're making half your posts, and then suddenly act otherwise at key moments."


If I had revealed my info, no one would have said "Oh I guess Sheep is town!" Those who thought he was scum and the scum who were pushing him would say he's scum Vanilla, those who thought he was town would say Town Vanilla. I tried to deter people from lynching him because I thought him being town made the most sense, but it's not like I was 100% convinced he was town either

You guys are acting like I scanned him town when I didn't
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MZero11
10/05/18 12:18:08 AM
#43:


Then again dowolf and Neablis are scum so I'm not really surprised

Still think Scare is town unfortunately

Hopefully some voices of reason come through in the morning
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Suprak the Stud
10/05/18 12:24:00 AM
#44:


Votals Are A Ladder:
[4] MZero - dowolf, Scare, IGCD, Neablis
[2] dowolf - MZero, Death, (plum)
[2] IGCD - (SBell), SBell, Shad, (Scare)
[1] SBell - Tange, (Scare), (IGCD)
[1] Scare - (SBell), (Blade), plum
[1] No Lynch - Viserion
[0] Shad - (Scare)
[0] Death - (Scare)

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch! Day ends at 10 PM CST tomorrow!
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htaeD
10/05/18 3:08:38 AM
#45:


Man, I might have to rethink my not trusting dowolf stance

##Unvote

Only skimmed so far though, but it seems like Mzero is scum
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htaeD
10/05/18 3:10:49 AM
#46:


Oh and IGCDs re-claim was awful too
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htaeD
10/05/18 3:46:01 AM
#47:


scum rolecop also explains how scum knew to kill Han (and maybe why Blade hasnt died yet)
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masterplum
10/05/18 6:00:10 AM
#48:


ScareChan posted...
red tried to bury tange, theres no way he is scum


This isnt good logic at all. Its a very lazy conclusion.

ScareChan posted...
red tried to bury tange, theres no way he is scum

Shaduln posted...
See that's better reasoning.


Ugh

Oh wait, I clicked on my last post and started reading deeply from there. That was my post where I said I needed to catch up. I need to go backwards. Please stand by.
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masterplum
10/05/18 6:15:59 AM
#49:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
I'm not going to bother making an effort. Literally everything I have said, no matter what I have done everyone is just calling me scum. So I am not going to stress myself out making an effort just to continually be called scum for everything I do. My real claim is town ninja, I don't have any powers yet, but apparently can gain some. This is the reason I have said to be weary of watcher/tracker claims. Obviously I am going to be called scum for this. Let my lynch be the truth.


Wait, so you have a role that provides evidence watcher and trackers are likely ... so you want to be wary of them? Or do you mean scum watchers and trackers?

Still seems weird to use that as your defense
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masterplum
10/05/18 6:18:52 AM
#50:


I hate how gods response to his character that doesnt make sense is bad flavor meta

Like we create a themed mafia game only to make up our own theme or something. I claim Arya Stark town detective because the setup needed a detective and Arya is cool I guess.

Thats not how this works.
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