Board 8 > Valentine's Day Mafia Topic 2: I Just Can't Wait For Our Very First Date

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Lopen
02/26/24 11:17:45 AM
#101:


I have more idea of what's going on your head than youre giving credit for

You've made like 80 posts this game. There is a pathway into how you're thinking there whether you're town or scum.

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SirChris
02/26/24 11:18:18 AM
#102:


Lopen posted...
I have more idea of what's going on your head than youre giving credit for

You've made like 80 posts this game. There is a pathway into how you're thinking there whether you're town or scum.
Well you aren't doing a good job with sorting the data correctly atm then

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TheSultanOfSlam
02/26/24 11:19:23 AM
#103:


changmas posted...
Paired
Red and Ulti
Peaf and Dumey
MZero and Sultan


Probably one scum I. The already paired.

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Lopen
02/26/24 11:19:55 AM
#104:


SirChris posted...
What are you doing to ensure you catch scum? Edumey is paired. Peaf is paired. If I am scum I can surely worm my way into someone's pants before days end. Your scum reads will all be matched up and day will not end how you want.

So why fight it? 12-3 means we get 4 mislynches before lylo. Don't sweat day 1 and have productive hoods.

I'm not saying we will catch scum I'm saying that as town I thinking trying to pair with someone who I think is scum gives them an easy out and you should be minimizing easy outs for scum.

And for what? 1 on 1 time? You want to interrogate Dumey who has been very communicative during the day phase so you can catch him then? Why can't you just catch him now? This isn't a lurker it's Dumey-- what are you going to find out during a night phase that you can't find right now.

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SirChris
02/26/24 11:21:37 AM
#105:


The fun thing about a new concept is I am thinking up new ideas on the fly tbh. No idea if they are optimal or not but it's a neat thing.

I think hoods are important. I think night actions will be important. I think not being super omega worried about day 1 is optimal for stress reasons given the mechanics. You can be if you want but I consider this to be the preamble. If you wish to kill me today I will not fight it tbh. Just here to have fun and try new things.

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SirChris
02/26/24 11:22:36 AM
#106:


Lopen posted...
I'm not saying we will catch scum I'm saying that as town I thinking trying to pair with someone who I think is scum gives them an easy out and you should be minimizing easy outs for scum.

And for what? 1 on 1 time? You want to interrogate Dumey who has been very communicative during the day phase so you can catch him then? Why can't you just catch him now? This isn't a lurker it's Dumey-- what are you going to find out during a night phase that you can't find right now.

It's easier to talk to people without distractions.

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SirChris
02/26/24 11:24:14 AM
#107:


Basically I don't kno2 if it's best to talk to suspects. But it sounds fun

Maybe talking to a towny is better. I genuinely don't know. Just kind of thinking out loud as I go really. I did say I thought over the mecha pre game for 5 minutes and you called me a nerd lol

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TheSultanOfSlam
02/26/24 11:25:11 AM
#108:


Anyways why I say that. Is who would want to be quicker to pair scum or Town. I think scum would be correct.

Red I could see maybe doing this at time but I am notoriously bad at reading red.

Dumey has drawn alot of attention.
Peaf as well

Mzero was being sluty could be a sign?

Ulti is ulti and will Ulti until I figure him out I'm sure.

I jumped quickly at Mzeros invite but it is still early and may jump around a bit more.


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Lopen
02/26/24 11:26:21 AM
#109:


I called you a poindexter Lea called you a nerd get it right

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SirChris
02/26/24 11:26:47 AM
#110:


Apologies milord

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SirChris
02/26/24 11:27:23 AM
#111:


Red is pretty null atm

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Kirby321
02/26/24 11:29:24 AM
#112:


MZero, I know you're not around right now, but I'd like your earnest thoughts on whether you think Sultan is town or trying to emulate his town self as scum.

Because I'm really on the fence with Sultan here

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TheSultanOfSlam
02/26/24 11:29:50 AM
#113:


I love and hate this concept all at the same time I have so many ideas.

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TheSultanOfSlam
02/26/24 11:30:29 AM
#114:


Kirby321 posted...
MZero, I know you're not around right now, but I'd like your earnest thoughts on whether you think Sultan is town or trying to emulate his town self as scum.

Because I'm really on the fence with Sultan here
Talk to me Kirby what's sup? What do you want to know?

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SirChris
02/26/24 11:32:15 AM
#115:


Sultan is lock town tbh

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EDumey
02/26/24 11:34:06 AM
#116:


SirChris posted...
Sultan is lock town tbh
Name a game where you haven't said this tbh

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SirChris
02/26/24 11:35:49 AM
#117:


EDumey posted...
Name a game where you haven't said this tbh
Elden ring when I hung him from the gallows like the scum filth he was

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SirChris
02/26/24 11:36:11 AM
#118:


Any other questions dumey?

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EDumey
02/26/24 11:36:59 AM
#119:


yeah probably, they'll come around

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TheSultanOfSlam
02/26/24 11:37:43 AM
#120:


SirChris posted...
Elden ring when I hung him from the gallows like the scum filth he was
Elden ring was a nightmare don't remind me

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TheSultanOfSlam
02/26/24 11:38:17 AM
#121:


EDumey posted...
Name a game where you haven't said this tbh
You trowing shade at me for listing you on the could be scum Theory?

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SirChris
02/26/24 11:38:50 AM
#122:


My favorite thing is when people ask me questions and I immediately have an answer lol

I have always been very good at reading sultan smh

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EDumey
02/26/24 11:41:45 AM
#123:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
You trowing shade at me for listing you on the could be scum Theory?

Nah I'm just recalling that I think every game I've been in with both you and Chris, Chris has protected his sweet kohai from any suspicion. Just seems par for the course. Granted I wasn't in Elden Ring Mafia, so I didn't see that one happen.

Sultan I do have some small issues with you this game, but I've already posted them, and was going to let Kirby take the lead because Kirby said the game was too me focused recently. :( I can list my notes though if you really want. Has nothing to do with you looking at the currently paired people.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/26/24 11:41:58 AM
#124:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/ba6dfeca.png

Slight update to the format, now with a Key! Really not much change since last night. I wonder if we'll see red again today :thinking:

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TheSultanOfSlam
02/26/24 11:45:37 AM
#125:


EDumey posted...
Nah I'm just recalling that I think every game I've been in with both you and Chris, Chris has protected his sweet kohai from any suspicion. Just seems par for the course. Granted I wasn't in Elden Ring Mafia, so I didn't see that one happen.

Sultan I do have some small issues with you this game, but I've already posted them, and was going to let Kirby take the lead because Kirby said the game was too me focused recently. :( I can list my notes though if you really want. Has nothing to do with you looking at the currently paired people.


Good answer. Well I kind of know why Kirby was annoied with me. He was annoied that I thought him wanting to jump quickly at red seemed scummy. But I definitely missed him "memeing" but he also did a similar thing to Chris with his opening.

You thought me being hesitant was weird when I thought about Red. I answered why I did and I don't think you ever responded to it tbh

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Forceful_Dragon
02/26/24 11:50:29 AM
#126:


EDumey posted...
and was going to let Kirby take the lead because Kirby said the game was too me focused recently

I take issue with the idea that *you* should be worried about how you-focused other people feel things are, but me bringing that up only makes things even more you-focused. What sort of paradox is this?

Like I agree with Kirby that several pages now were dominated by people interacting to you or about you and I was trying to give some limelight to corrik since he seemed to be around.

But speaking of Kirby. Kirby, would you consider being my date tonight?

  • Yes
  • No
  • Maybe
  • I don't know
  • Can you repeat the question?

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Forceful_Dragon
02/26/24 11:50:54 AM
#127:


I tried to do boxes. It didn't work.

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EDumey
02/26/24 11:51:11 AM
#128:


To be clear, I think your answer for wanting to date Red was the best possible answer you could have given, so I didn't see a need to pursue it. That early in the game, wanting to partner up because you thought he would be interesting to talk to is fine.

My notes regarding you:

1.8 Sultan says cool playing the Long game
1.60 Sultan says he's okay dating Red. Seems contradictory to 1.8, and is an easy date to jump onto because Red is likely to just AFK on the date.
1.72 I question Sultan's interest in dating Red. Sultan says he would want to talk to Red during the night, which is the best possible answer.
1.153 Lea asks if anyone wants to date her. Joke or trying to start conversation? Sultan responds but no real conversation comes from this.
1.293 MZero sends date to Sultan
1.300 Sultan accepts MZero's date. (Joke reason?)

Of all players in the game, it seems like you're the one that's tried most to involve himself in actually getting a date. That's not necessarily scummy, but something I've just kept an eye on.

There was also the bit about you calling FD and Ulti scum theater, which was the opposite impression that I got. But that's just a difference of opinion I guess.

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SirChris
02/26/24 11:51:29 AM
#129:


EDumey posted...
Nah I'm just recalling that I think every game I've been in with both you and Chris, Chris has protected his sweet kohai from any suspicion. Just seems par for the course. Granted I wasn't in Elden Ring Mafia, so I didn't see that one happen.

Sultan I do have some small issues with you this game, but I've already posted them, and was going to let Kirby take the lead because Kirby said the game was too me focused recently. :( I can list my notes though if you really want. Has nothing to do with you looking at the currently paired people.

I mean

When was I wrong

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EDumey
02/26/24 11:53:10 AM
#130:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
I take issue with the idea that *you* should be worried about how you-focused other people feel things are, but me bringing that up only makes things even more you-focused. What sort of paradox is this?

I wasn't actually taking issue with Kirby's statement about things being too me focused. Treat the :( like a /jk.

Just in general I think it's good to not step on someone else's toes if they want to bring up a conversation, so I was gonna let Kirby question Sultan. But Kirby hasn't responded for a bit and I'm here with Sultan now so just posting my thoughts!

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TheSultanOfSlam
02/26/24 11:55:15 AM
#131:


EDumey posted...
Of all players in the game, it seems like you're the one that's tried most to involve himself in actually getting a date. That's not necessarily scummy, but something I've just kept an eye on.

Makes sense I suppose. I don't want to reveal my whole hand my accepting Mzero's invite is a strategy in a way.

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htaeD
02/26/24 11:55:53 AM
#132:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
I tried to do boxes. It didn't work.

I think we should also just as host fot dating updates, as if they were votals.

Datals?

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EDumey
02/26/24 11:56:59 AM
#133:


SirChris posted...
I mean

When was I wrong

The only one that really comes to mind is when both you and Sultan were both scum, and you just gave him cover because it's your standard play. I guess I would treat you calling Sultan scum with more weight, because it breaks the pattern. But you calling Sultan town is something you would do as Town/Town, Scum/Scum, or Scum/Town. I can't really treat it with a lot of value if it's expected behavior!

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Lopen
02/26/24 11:57:37 AM
#134:


EDumey posted...
1.8 Sultan says cool playing the Long game
1.60 Sultan says he's okay dating Red. Seems contradictory to 1.8, and is an easy date to jump onto because Red is likely to just AFK on the date.

Really.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/26/24 11:57:41 AM
#135:


htaeD posted...
I think we should also just as host fot dating updates, as if they were votals.

Datals?

Um, what?

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TheSultanOfSlam
02/26/24 11:59:41 AM
#136:


Wait dumey isn't this contradictory of you.. weren't you the 1st to accept a date? Also didn't you litterally come into the game saying you want to date peaf and are dating peaf?

Also I think part of Mzero and I jokingly together, if you want context it is mostly a joke from sign ups.

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SirChris
02/26/24 12:01:24 PM
#137:


Rip and teat my apprentice. Yesss

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SirChris
02/26/24 12:01:28 PM
#138:


Tear even

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EDumey
02/26/24 12:02:56 PM
#139:


Lopen posted...
Really.
?

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Wait dumey isn't this contradictory of you.. weren't you the 1st to accept a date? Also didn't you litterally come into the game saying you want to date peaf and are dating peaf?

Also I think part of Mzero and I jokingly together, if you want context it is mostly a joke from sign ups.

Nope! A. Red and Ulti were first. B. I never said anything about wanting to play the long game or not use my date, so me accepting Peaf's date isn't "contradictory." C. Out of game signup topic stuff isn't really relevant. Yeah Peaf extended the original date to me because of memey joke reasons, but I explained my reason for accepting it earlier.

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htaeD
02/26/24 12:04:46 PM
#140:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Um, what?

I am just wondering if the host will give us updates on who is dating who periodically.

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EDumey
02/26/24 12:06:32 PM
#141:


htaeD posted...
I am just wondering if the host will give us updates on who is dating who periodically.

They're at the beginning of this topic and haven't changed since. Dates aren't exactly flying off the shelves around these parts.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/26/24 12:06:41 PM
#142:


htaeD posted...
I think we should also just as host fot dating updates

oh.. ask* host for*

makes sense now! I didn't understand why that was a response to my comment about trying to make a checkbox list for Kirby >_>

And I do like the host updates, but I'm still gonna keep track on my own because the host update wont reflect things like the fact that red shotgunned requests to everyone, who who turned down/rescinded requests from who, etc.

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PeaceFrog
02/26/24 12:06:46 PM
#143:


Man, no one cares about Lea's FMK idea, huh.

Death, are you fully caught up?

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htaeD
02/26/24 12:07:13 PM
#144:


Oh I missed that. I see.

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Lopen
02/26/24 12:07:27 PM
#145:


I mean 1.8 is clear joke early game nonsense post to me

Oddly this is so crazy to consider a contradiction with 1.60 as part of building an argument on someone that I may give you more town points for it because I feel like scum isn't going to reach that hard on faking a case?

Man I don't know.

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PeaceFrog
02/26/24 12:07:58 PM
#146:


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TheSultanOfSlam
02/26/24 12:09:34 PM
#147:


Nope! A. Red and Ulti were first. -okay sure red and Ulti were first, red isn't nessisarily cleared from his mass invite, Ulti is ulti and i wouldnt have expected much less sure.. I never said anything about wanting to play the long game or not use my date, so me accepting Peaf's date isn't "contradictory."- no you didn't but you also are proving my initial point about being quick to jump at a date. C. Out of game signup topic stuff isn't really relevant. -litterally was i n the sign up topic of Mzero asking me to play and i said oh if mzero is asking i must, plus alot of joke and fine ill lay out my hand accepting Mzeros invite is similar to why red would be interesting. Mzero's time zone also like 75% still being a joke/meme

Peaf extended the original date to me because of memey joke reasons, but I explained my reason for accepting it earlier. Your reason is fine for why you accepted it but you are using my own argument of why you could be scum agasint me so it is kind of funny and hence why insaid it's a little contradictory since we are doing basically the same thing

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Lopen
02/26/24 12:11:31 PM
#148:


The alternate world is he is scum bussing and the argument makes sense because he is informed the target is scum

That requires scum Sultan though which I dunno if I'm biting on yet

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EDumey
02/26/24 12:12:57 PM
#149:


Lopen posted...
I mean 1.8 is clear joke early game nonsense post to me

Oddly this is so crazy to consider a contradiction with 1.60 as part of building an argument on someone that I may give you more town points for it because I feel like scum isn't going to reach that hard on faking a case?

Man I don't know.

Are you interpreting Sultan as responding to Lea's 2 pump chump joke, or to Chris early talking about avoiding pairing up early?

It looked like Sultan responded specifically to Lea laughing, then separately saying he agrees with Chris to play the long game. Maybe he was just making a joke about his stamina?? If Sultan was responding to Chris, I'm not sure why you would take Chris so seriously and then dismiss Sultan as just a joke.

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TheSultanOfSlam
02/26/24 12:16:05 PM
#150:


We can break up any time during the day phase too so like I'll still listen to other date offers and such. If that wasn't made clear earlier

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