Fake Christian,
The new tax package is going to end the over 60 year long Johnson Amendment crafted by Democrat Lyndon B Johnson to further separate church and state as it says any house of worship and other tax-emempt organizations are NOT allowed to endorse politicans!!
fuck that
christians spending money to hush other people goes against christianity
when people give churches money they expect it to go back to the community
fuck that
christians spending money to hush other people goes against christianity
when people give churches money they expect it to go back to the community
The only way this is even reasonable would be if churches also lost their tax-exemption status.
Okay, actually read the entire thing this time. The trade of tax exemption for political expression is already the law in the US and Trump wants to get rid of that, despite that being completely reasonable. This might be the most stupid thing I've heard him do yet.
aiyobro posted...
fuck that
christians spending money to hush other people goes against christianity
when people give churches money they expect it to go back to the community
Tell that to the Vatican with the billions of dollars it's keeping in banks.
TyVulpine posted...
aiyobro posted...
fuck that
christians spending money to hush other people goes against christianity
when people give churches money they expect it to go back to the community
Tell that to the Vatican with the billions of dollars it's keeping in banks.
Overlooking that you can't really target the Vatican, this Pope has very clearly endorsed and attacked political candidates. Pope Francis is actually a throwback to the middle ages when Popes tried to actively influence politics and charge indulgences.
That makes zero sense on any number of levels. However, given that you're not an American, I wouldn't really expect you to understand all the reasons why. However, I should point out that MoveOn.org, a partisan political group which exists solely to push political issues, is a non-profit.
Because backing the church makes somebody a fake Christian? What?
Because backing the church makes somebody a fake Christian? What?
If you actually, for once, paid attention whatsoever to the news you would know why nobody thinks Trump is actually religious.
Zeus posted...
TyVulpine posted...
aiyobro posted...
fuck that
christians spending money to hush other people goes against christianity
when people give churches money they expect it to go back to the community
Tell that to the Vatican with the billions of dollars it's keeping in banks.
Overlooking that you can't really target the Vatican, this Pope has very clearly endorsed and attacked political candidates. Pope Francis is actually a throwback to the middle ages when Popes tried to actively influence politics and charge indulgences.
Technically we can, by refusing to allow any more churches to buy land to buy churches.
Because backing the church makes somebody a fake Christian? What?
If you actually, for once, paid attention whatsoever to the news you would know why nobody thinks Trump is actually religious.
So Zeus is channeling his inner ICOYAR now.
The only thing Trump worships is his money.
no it doesn't. It really doesn't. It gets sent overseas to other countries to "promote" the religion and indoctrinate people...I mean brainwash people...into accepting their false claims and false promises.
During the roast of Donald Trump he made it so that the people talking shit about him specifically didn't bring up his money. Because he cares pretty strongly about the perception of being rich.
Quit riding Trump's ass for once and stop defending him every chance you get.
Christians don't believe in divorce. He's been married 3 times. He has 4 kids with those 3 wives. He can't even get a Bible passage correct. He doesn't believe in helping the poor and needy. Before you bring it up, his charity organization is used solely to enrich himself and pay his lawsuits.
Which has any bearing because...?
Quit riding Trump's ass by knocking him over the silliest, most unfounded accusations any chance you get so I can stop correcting your stupid, wrong-headed beliefs.
The claim about him not caring about the poor is unfounded, as he defended parts of the ACA during the primaries and outright attacked Cruz for wanting to roll back entitlements too far. Your claim is another hyperbolic two minutes hate: If you don't shout loudly enough for certain things, you guys accuse them of being the enemy
As for the charity claims, they came from WaPo (which was noted even in the outlets who parroted the claims), a news outlet owned by Clinton ally and Amazon owner Jeff Bezos who has used it as a superpac to attack Hillary's enemies, be it Sanders or Trump, with largely unfounded claims. WaPo's reporting is no better than the National Enquirer or Rolling Stone.
The primaries are over. The campaign is over. The election is over. He's now the President. It doesn't matter what he said before; it only matters what he says and does now
mrduckbear posted...
Fake Christian,
Because backing the church makes somebody a fake Christian? What?
I'm just pointing out how much he cares about money. He certainly cares about it more than any real religion.
Every single accusation I make is true
and I usually post sources to back it up.
I'm still waiting on that source from you proving that coal is cheaper and cleaner than other energy sources.
The primaries are over. The campaign is over. The election is over. He's now the President. It doesn't matter what he said before; it only matters what he says and does now. And now, when he was promoting the new health care bill he tried getting the Freedom Caucus to his side by stripping practically everything from insurance including emergency services. And now he says he's going to withhold insurance payments from the poor in order to get Democrats to overturn the ACA. So don't even give me that fucking garbage about how he defended the ACA or cares about the poor.
The Washington Post has won multiple Pulitzer Prizes for reporting. Just because they report on things you don't like doesn't make them fake news.
Churches should not be tax exempt anymore because they're too self-serving. When the minister live humbly and everything went back into the community, fine, makes sense. Now there's stuff like Joel Osteen and Scientology, BS... Once they pay taxes, they can get political too.
Zeus posted...
mrduckbear posted...
Fake Christian,
Because backing the church makes somebody a fake Christian? What?
A lot of people claim to be christians because they went to church a few times, etc.
Which are tactics, not beliefs.
What I said was a wide-scale energy source that's as cheap yet cleaner and it's proved by the fact that coal is still used although, thanks to artificial controls like legislation, it's losing ground to natural gas. It's like pointing out that guns are better than swords for security. How do we know this? Because people use guns rather than swords. Not that you understand logical induction.
No, the fact that the organization has a glaring systemic bias, pays little attention to fact-checking, and that the organization as a whole looks more like the Rolling Stone than a reputable paper makes them fake. Oh, and by the way, one of those Pulitzers was won by Janet Cooke, who fabricated an entire story. But sure, the fact that they've been busted on numerous occasions for fabricating news doesn't make them fake news.
And if you think awards automatically make something legitimate, keep in mind that Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize for making campaign promises and accepted it the same day he committed more troops to Iraq.
There's no reason 99% of existing churches having tax-exempt status anyway, so that choice seems a bit moot.
In any case, I went with "No, there's a reason for separation of church and state".
EDIT/ADD: Religious people and their special "logic" that only applies to their specific beliefs/gods/etc, lol.
You realize that's not a point on your side right? If he cared about the poor he wouldn't be using tactics that harm the poor.
All you're doing is backtracking on your claims because you know you're full of shit and can't back up anything you said.
You say a whole lot but it's nothing of substance. Like I said, just cuz you don't like that they're reporting on things that bring to light the dirty shit your God Emperor does, doesn't make them fake news.
If churches want to get even more involved in politics than they already are, then their tax exempt status should be revoked. They weren't even supposed to be tax exempt to begin with.
so why should churches and churches alone be denied?
Zeus posted...
so why should churches and churches alone be denied?
Separation of Church and State.
Revelation34 posted...
Zeus posted...
so why should churches and churches alone be denied?
Separation of Church and State.
but the churches arent trying to rule, they just want to endorse politicians
deoxxys posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Zeus posted...
so why should churches and churches alone be denied?
Separation of Church and State.
but the churches arent trying to rule, they just want to endorse politicians
Doesn't matter. Still applies. Religion does not belong in politics at all.
but religious people still have opinions?
Revelation34 posted...
deoxxys posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Zeus posted...
so why should churches and churches alone be denied?
Separation of Church and State.
but the churches arent trying to rule, they just want to endorse politicians
Doesn't matter. Still applies. Religion does not belong in politics at all.
but religious people still have opinions?
no one says they are trying to integrate religion into politics, just means that you might get more financial support for parties that, for example, are pro life.
deoxxys posted...
Revelation34 posted...
deoxxys posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Zeus posted...
so why should churches and churches alone be denied?
Separation of Church and State.
but the churches arent trying to rule, they just want to endorse politicians
Doesn't matter. Still applies. Religion does not belong in politics at all.
but religious people still have opinions?
no one says they are trying to integrate religion into politics, just means that you might get more financial support for parties that, for example, are pro life.
Then tell me why so many republicans try to ban abortion.
Revelation34 posted...
Zeus posted...
so why should churches and churches alone be denied?
Separation of Church and State.
but the churches arent trying to rule, they just want to endorse politicians
deoxxys posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Zeus posted...
so why should churches and churches alone be denied?
Separation of Church and State.
but the churches arent trying to rule, they just want to endorse politicians
lolwut? Of course they are. "Believe what we tell you and accept our rules without question or you'll go to hell!"
TyVulpine posted...
deoxxys posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Zeus posted...
so why should churches and churches alone be denied?
Separation of Church and State.
but the churches arent trying to rule, they just want to endorse politicians
lolwut? Of course they are. "Believe what we tell you and accept our rules without question or you'll go to hell!"
Thats only your perception of them, some of them think similar minded things about you. theres a side to everything and everythings not as it seems.