I live in Virginia and was wondering where this happened. Of course you didn't name the fucking interstate because you're a terrible writer.
Do you think the child who tried to commit suicide be charged with something for Marisa's death?.
1309 children aged 5-12 have killed themselves in America, 1 every 5 days..
mrduckbear posted...
Do you think the child who tried to commit suicide be charged with something for Marisa's death?.He's 12 and likely mentally ill so no, it probably wouldn't be appropriate to charge him with anything.
mrduckbear posted...
1309 children aged 5-12 have killed themselves in America, 1 every 5 days..
mrduckbear posted...
1309 children aged 5-12 have killed themselves in America, 1 every 5 days..
He wants to die, help him.
More people think a mentally ill 12 year old boy who clearly didn't intend to land on a car by random chance as he jumped off should be punished than think a bunch of 15-17 year olds intentionally throwing huge rocks at drivers' windshields "for teh evulz" should be charged with murder after...shocker!....it lead to someone getting killed.
WTF, PotD!
More people think a mentally ill 12 year old boy who clearly didn't intend to land on a car by random chance as he jumped off should be punished than think a bunch of 15-17 year olds intentionally throwing huge rocks at drivers' windshields "for teh evulz" should be charged with murder after...shocker!....it lead to someone getting killed.
WTF, PotD!
streamofthesky posted...
More people think a mentally ill 12 year old boy who clearly didn't intend to land on a car by random chance as he jumped off should be punished than think a bunch of 15-17 year olds intentionally throwing huge rocks at drivers' windshields "for teh evulz" should be charged with murder after...shocker!....it lead to someone getting killed.
WTF, PotD!
WTF, Stream! Your deceptive bullshit knows no fucking limits! This poll is about charging a kid with a crime. The other poll was about LIFE IN PRISON. The options for the other poll were life in prison, some prison time, and community service. Community service got ONE fucking vote. Nearly everybody suggested prison for them. The only argument was about what they should be charged with and the amount of prison time they should serve. So clearly more people DIDN'T think that the kid should be charged/punished, since there were 6 votes against vs ZERO votes against punishment in the other topic (since even community service is a punishment). Or, conversely, it was 67 votes for prison (or 98%+) for the stone-throwers vs 20 votes (or 76%+) for a charge of *some* kind for the kid.
And it's possible that the "charge" they want would put the kid into psychiatric care for rehabilitation for all we know, which isn't a punishment at all and would instead be a life-saving treatment. Because you're comparing two completely different polls, there's no way of knowing. Otherwise, in a more general sense, you're assuming that the same set of respondents answered both polls which probably isn't the case.
Do you think the boy should be charged with something?
Zeus posted...
streamofthesky posted...
More people think a mentally ill 12 year old boy who clearly didn't intend to land on a car by random chance as he jumped off should be punished than think a bunch of 15-17 year olds intentionally throwing huge rocks at drivers' windshields "for teh evulz" should be charged with murder after...shocker!....it lead to someone getting killed.
WTF, PotD!
WTF, Stream! Your deceptive bullshit knows no fucking limits! This poll is about charging a kid with a crime. The other poll was about LIFE IN PRISON. The options for the other poll were life in prison, some prison time, and community service. Community service got ONE fucking vote. Nearly everybody suggested prison for them. The only argument was about what they should be charged with and the amount of prison time they should serve. So clearly more people DIDN'T think that the kid should be charged/punished, since there were 6 votes against vs ZERO votes against punishment in the other topic (since even community service is a punishment). Or, conversely, it was 67 votes for prison (or 98%+) for the stone-throwers vs 20 votes (or 76%+) for a charge of *some* kind for the kid.
And it's possible that the "charge" they want would put the kid into psychiatric care for rehabilitation for all we know, which isn't a punishment at all and would instead be a life-saving treatment. Because you're comparing two completely different polls, there's no way of knowing. Otherwise, in a more general sense, you're assuming that the same set of respondents answered both polls which probably isn't the case.
This is an actual kid and pretty clearly wasn't trying to hit a driver/passenger in a car with obvious mental health issues to be suicidal at 12. Yet the vast majority of the votes thing he should be charged with something. And it's your deceptive bs that knows no limits, when you talk of "charging someone with something," it almost always is in the context of a crime and prison, not psychiatric care.
The other case was a bunch of people 15-17 years old, being charged as the adults they practically are, intentionally lobbing large rocks at people and causing a death plus several other injuries. Of course they deserve life in prison.
streamofthesky posted...
More people think a mentally ill 12 year old boy who clearly didn't intend to land on a car by random chance as he jumped off should be punished than think a bunch of 15-17 year olds intentionally throwing huge rocks at drivers' windshields "for teh evulz" should be charged with murder after...shocker!....it lead to someone getting killed.
WTF, PotD!
Few things:
1) You haven't addressed your initial deception. Walking it back to "the vast majority" doesn't excuse your claim that more people thought the kid should be charged than the teens, which was an outright lie. (Not to mention that at least one of the votes for "yes" was a poster who admitted he voted before realizing that the boy who landed on her car was 12, which is very likely the situation for other votes as well.)
charged or not, he needs to be institutionalized. clearly a danger to himself and others.
Zeus posted...
mrduckbear posted...
Do you think the child who tried to commit suicide be charged with something for Marisa's death?.He's 12 and likely mentally ill so no, it probably wouldn't be appropriate to charge him with anything.
I rarely get to say this, but I completely agree with Zeus here. This kid needs help, and lots of it. Criminal charges aren't going to help him nor society in general. It is absolutely tragic that he killed someone. I just don't think that making a criminal out of this kid will make anything better.
Manslaughter at least.
SushiSquid posted...
Zeus posted...
mrduckbear posted...
Do you think the child who tried to commit suicide be charged with something for Marisa's death?.He's 12 and likely mentally ill so no, it probably wouldn't be appropriate to charge him with anything.
I rarely get to say this, but I completely agree with Zeus here. This kid needs help, and lots of it. Criminal charges aren't going to help him nor society in general. It is absolutely tragic that he killed someone. I just don't think that making a criminal out of this kid will make anything better.
This. That kid has to live with this for the rest of his life, on top of already having deep depression. I cant imagine what Marisas family is going through, but if that was my wife or sister that died, I wouldnt have the heart to prosecute a suicidal 12 year-old.
Id probably try to reach out to the kid and ask him to live his life to the fullest in memory of my loved one, as a condition for not pressing charges. And offer my forgiveness. Itd be a tough pill to swallow, but that boys healing needs to start as soon as possible.
Zeus posted...
streamofthesky posted...
More people think a mentally ill 12 year old boy who clearly didn't intend to land on a car by random chance as he jumped off should be punished than think a bunch of 15-17 year olds intentionally throwing huge rocks at drivers' windshields "for teh evulz" should be charged with murder after...shocker!....it lead to someone getting killed.
WTF, PotD!
Few things:
1) You haven't addressed your initial deception. Walking it back to "the vast majority" doesn't excuse your claim that more people thought the kid should be charged than the teens, which was an outright lie. (Not to mention that at least one of the votes for "yes" was a poster who admitted he voted before realizing that the boy who landed on her car was 12, which is very likely the situation for other votes as well.)
Here, I bolded key parts of my initial post since you've repeatedly proven you're incapable of reading it, hopefully that helps you.
I never compared charge the teens vs. charge the kid. I compared charge the teens WITH MURDER vs. charge the kid (with any crime).