America was never great.
But that's a level of perspective most people are utterly incapable of these days, because lol orange man bad.What, you think orange man isn't bad? Sorry but I don't pretend this cult leader is a real politician. He is a known rapist though. Maybe you like that about him.
America was never great.
No, he made it worse.
Considering he spent his entire Presidency constantly having roadblocks thrown up by grandstanding political rivals and being torn down by media, it's not as if he could have accomplished much of value regardless of whether or not his intended policies or goals were worthwhile or not (and I'm not even claiming they were).
But that's a level of perspective most people are utterly incapable of these days, because lol orange man bad.
America was never great.
(But neither is anywhere else, ever, for all of human history, into the future. "Great" is a human concept with little objectivity, even less of which can be agreed upon or proven.)
America was never great.I guess it depends what you consider great and what you consider America, like are we just talking about the American government? The American people? American culture? What how good does something have to be to be great? And how long?
I guess it depends what you consider great and what you consider America, like are we just talking about the American government? The American people? American culture? What how good does something have to be to be great? And how long?
A lot of great things have come from America, and I think generally Americans can be really good people (obviously not all, since there is no group that is 100% good) but the government has been trash for a long time, and American culture isn't what it used to be either, but I don't think that disqualifies it from being great. You can be great without being a paradise. I also don't think the government should be what you judge a country by, since they're all shit and it leads to negative world views.
No, he made it worse.To be fair, the GOP has been doing that well before Trump.
"America is diseased. Rotten to the core. There's no saving it -- we need to pull it out by the roots. WIpe the slate clean. BURN IT DOWN!"DON'T FUCK WITH THIS SENATOR!
And believe it or not they're still playing with covid over in china. The last I heard about it, it attacks the brain in mice.
He spent like a third of his presidency golfing and another third scamming tax-payers for personal enrichment.You do know that he left office with less money than when he entered, right? can the same be said about any other president? The last 5 in particular left office with exponentially more wealth than when they entered, clinton especially.
You do know that he left office with less money than when he entered, right?Because he's a fucking moron
Considering he spent his entire Presidency constantly having roadblocks thrown up by grandstanding political rivals and being torn down by media, it's not as if he could have accomplished much of value regardless of whether or not his intended policies or goals were worthwhile or notI mean, welcome to every presidency of the last 20 years. Three of them managed to get shit done in spite of it (not necessarily good shit, but shit).
But that's a level of perspective most people are utterly incapable of these days, because lol orange man bad.None of what you said is mutually exclusive with recognizing Trump as an awful president and an awful person in general. The facetious dismissal of complaints against Trump as "orange man bad" rings pretty hollow when you're talking about a man who:
You do know that he left office with less money than when he entered, right? can the same be said about any other president? The last 5 in particular left office with exponentially more wealth than when they entered, clinton especially.