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Their shit sucks
im gay
Consistently for the last 30 years yes
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Lose 50 experience
CS2 and Elements 9 were the last great Photoshops
Kill the legs first, that's an ironclad battle tactic!
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Davinci Resolve is supposed to be really good and exceptionally stable software, but the learning curve is pretty large, at least for me. The workflow is so much different than what I'm used to and I still haven't figured it out.

Also, lol, that infographic must be very outdated still calling it "Sony" Vegas.
But my PDFs...
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i like adobe
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My favorite is Adobe DRM telling me at work at least every month or two that I don't have a valid license so I need to waste time restarting Acrobat. And Acrobat is less featured than the prior generic PDF editor we used to use, but it's required for integration in another software suite we use.

Also, it deciding that I use an accessibility device (I don't) so I need to hunt down how to disable it from wasting my time starting to scan every PDF that loads with no obvious way to turn it off. At least you can just rename the file responsible to stop that...
Payment processors (lately Visa and MasterCard but others are guilty) are acting as a shadow Ministry of "Morality." Censorship must not be tolerated!
I've used Paint.NET for years, but my needs in a photo editor are very, very basic.

I've heard that GIMP is a really good free alternative to Photoshop that has nearly professional level features, but you basically need to earn a Master's degree studying it to even have a cursory level of understanding of how to operate it.
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SunWuKung420 posted...
But my PDFs...
Foxit
faramir77 posted...
I've heard that GIMP is a really good free alternative to Photoshop that has nearly professional level features, but you basically need to earn a Master's degree studying it to even have a cursory level of understanding of how to operate it.
Couldn't the same be said about Photoshop? GIMP isn't that hard to get a hang of. Probably just seems unintuitive to people who come from PS.
It's been a long time since I've used GIMP, but I feel like it was easy enough to figure out what I needed it for. It wasn't extremely unintuitive.
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
i like adobe

It's ok to be wrong, since you can always grow and change.

Adobe charges a monthly fee for their program.

They use your work to train their shitty AI.

Want more options? Pay more money!

There's nothing to like about Adobe.
Your loyalty lies on the wrong side of the future
ConfusedTorchic posted...
i like adobe

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faramir77 posted...
you basically need to earn a Master's degree studying it to even have a cursory level of understanding of how to operate it.

You're describing Blender, not GIMP.
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faramir77 posted...
GIMP


As a recent adopter of Linux, I've found Krita to my liking.
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The worst part about Acrobat is that a standard user can upgrade from Reader to Standard or Pro just by signing in with a licensed account, no admin rights are required. BUT, they cannot downgrade , so if they no longer have a license, they can't go from Pro down to Standard or either version down to Reader. It requires admin rights because you have to uninstall the software (which is a massive PITA by itself) and then reinstall Reader.

And they basically have made it so you can't download the full version installer anymore. You can only download a program that downloads the actual installer, so it takes so much longer if you need to install on multiple machines.
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captpackrat posted...
The worst part about Acrobat is that a standard user can upgrade from Reader to Standard or Pro just by signing in with a licensed account, no admin rights are required. BUT, they cannot downgrade , so if they no longer have a license, they can't go from Pro down to Standard or either version down to Reader. It requires admin rights because you have to uninstall the software (which is a massive PITA by itself) and then reinstall Reader.

And they basically have made it so you can't download the full version installer anymore. You can only download a program that downloads the actual installer, so it takes so much longer if you need to install on multiple machines.
What's even worse is how they hijack web browsers (and then nag you to accept even further integration on top of that). This is to the point you can't use PDFs in your web browser anymore without signing in. And Adobe, hurting for money oh so much, only lets you log into two machines at once.

My job used to have Old National Bank (this after several anti-consumer bank mergers). Their check scanner system was so antiquated they required using Internet Explorer Mode in Microsoft Edge . This was less than two years ago. In any case, this awful web scanner system would fail to function properly without the Acrobat plugin, which refused to work with Acrobat Pro signed in with a valid license as a web plugin . Terrible company. They deserve to go the way of long-eclipsed relics of the past like AOL.

Edit:
And yes, I know checks are obsolete. But with companies more and more passing payment processing costs directly to clients/consumers and more importantly when you have 80, 90, 100 year old clients... you need to accept checks.
Payment processors (lately Visa and MasterCard but others are guilty) are acting as a shadow Ministry of "Morality." Censorship must not be tolerated!
I dont even use photoshop, Acrobat Pro and Captivate are so poorly made
im gay
Fuck Adobe ever since the one time I thought I had cracked light room and a week later they locked it down.

Oh well, for what I do GIMP and Rawtherapee work fine.
Voxwik posted...
What's even worse is how they hijack web browsers (and then nag you to accept even further integration on top of that). This is to the point you can't use PDFs in your web browser anymore without signing in. And Adobe, hurting for money oh so much, only lets you log into two machines at once.

That's news to me. I've always been able to view PDFs without a problem at all in my browser. To the point that I forgot the format is an Adobe property.
Salrite posted...
That's news to me. I've always been able to view PDFs without a problem at all in my browser. To the point that I forgot the format is an Adobe property.
This is related to the earlier comments about how once you are tainted with Acrobat Pro it clings to everything.

The context for this was that pathetic bank check scanner. We ditched that bank (thank goodness) but their antiquated check scanner software required IE mode and without being signed into Acrobat Pro the website would not function, because Adobe aggressively takes over PDF display in browsers and that includes Acrobat Pro integration. But if you aren't signed in with a license, it doesn't just function like reader. It just outright refuses to work at all.

I'm just in awe how bad their pathetic DRM is too. Like every now and then when clicking to organize pages in a PDF, it will randomly decide "that feature isn't included in your license" and I need to restart it. Such garbage greed. The idea that it's possible for certain features to be locked behind perpetual payments is nauseating. As per usual, pirates get a superior experience I'd imagine when aggressive DRM is involved.
Payment processors (lately Visa and MasterCard but others are guilty) are acting as a shadow Ministry of "Morality." Censorship must not be tolerated!
Newave posted...
CS2 and Elements 9 were the last great Photoshops

YO CS 2

Thats definitely when it started getting cluttered and weird.

CS5.5 or 6 were the last ones I bothered with. Never went to the Cloud versions.
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faramir77 posted...
I've used Paint.NET for years, but my needs in a photo editor are very, very basic.

I've heard that GIMP is a really good free alternative to Photoshop that has nearly professional level features, but you basically need to earn a Master's degree studying it to even have a cursory level of understanding of how to operate it.

If you put in a weekend or two, GIMP isn't hard to learn.

Davies Media Design's classes are how I learned GIMP to switch away from PS.

https://daviesmediadesign.com/gimp-tutorials/
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Everyone responsible for Adobe should be in prison.
JoeDangIt posted...
Everyone responsible for Adobe should be in prison.

im gay
JoeDangIt posted...
Everyone responsible for Adobe should be in prison.
That's overboard.
Payment processors (lately Visa and MasterCard but others are guilty) are acting as a shadow Ministry of "Morality." Censorship must not be tolerated!
ooger posted...
Davies Media Design's classes are how I learned GIMP to switch away from PS.

I remember being subscribed to GIMPtricks back in the day

Holy hell... Last upload 14 years ago!
Also shoutout to Audacity for being my primary audio editing program forever. I've even used it professionally, it's super lightweight and easy to use, even for my amateur self.
Salrite posted...
Also shoutout to Audacity for being my primary audio editing program forever. I've even used it professionally, it's super lightweight and easy to use, even for my amateur self.
As open source projects get better and better over time I wonder how many companies will go full Nintendo to try to shut them all down.
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Voxwik posted...
As open source projects get better and better over time I wonder how many companies will go full Nintendo to try to shut them all down.

Harder to do with an American-based company? Japanese patent laws are ridiculous and Nintendo is in their government's pockets, so that's also something to consider.
Salrite posted...
Harder to do with an American-based company? Japanese patent laws are ridiculous and Nintendo is in their government's pockets, so that's also something to consider.
They are doing it in the USA too. Doesn't matter if they would lose when they can bully people to bankruptcy in legal costs.
Payment processors (lately Visa and MasterCard but others are guilty) are acting as a shadow Ministry of "Morality." Censorship must not be tolerated!
Newave posted...
CS2 and Elements 9 were the last great Photoshops
I've been using Elements 7 since the early 2010's. Just seems to work great for my needs, and it still works fine with Windows 11, so I never bothered getting or upgrading to anything newer.
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Far-Queue posted...
@DirtBasedSoap I got tix to see Modest Mouse and Built To Spill in a few weeks

Hell yeah. I love both of those bands.
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Voxwik posted...
They are doing it in the USA too. Doesn't matter if they would lose when they can bully people to bankruptcy in legal costs.

In reality, I don't believe any free-use, open source alternatives are any real threat to Adobe and they probably feel the same. They have such a stranglehold on multiple industries that for every person who switches to an alternative, there are hundreds who will stick with their products because they are industry standards in so many fields. If you want a job in video production, you best have experience with Premier. Used to be that Final Cut and Avid had more foothold, but it seems Adobe has laid claim these days.

Similarly, it is how Blackmagic's business model works as an alternative, giving users fully functional, free options. They offer this option to get new filmmakers in the door and comfortable with their software so that they will be more likely to purchase their line of hardware that comes with full integration.
kind9 posted...
Couldn't the same be said about Photoshop? GIMP isn't that hard to get a hang of. Probably just seems unintuitive to people who come from PS.
As a user of solely open source software, Gimp is notoriously not good enough. All Gimp users understand this. Krita is probably better, I don't really know what photoshop users do aside from making lame youtube thumbnails anyway.

It gets better every day, though.

Voxwik posted...
That's overboard.
Going overboard gets results, throw them all in jail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO4XfSli-KE
Yellow posted...
Going overboard gets results, throw them all in jail.
For? See I don't believe in ignoring extremist rhetoric because very bad things happen when people that think like this get power. I've said my piece. But when someone says something genuinely disturbing, it should have pushback.
Payment processors (lately Visa and MasterCard but others are guilty) are acting as a shadow Ministry of "Morality." Censorship must not be tolerated!
Voxwik posted...
For? See I don't believe in ignoring extremist rhetoric because very bad things happen when people that think like this get power. I've said my piece. But when someone says something genuinely disturbing, it should have pushback.
Saying something disturbingly extremist is like adding a drop of pitch black red food dye to a glass of water. I only get like 1% of what I ask for. You should be thankful, that's what you wanted all along.

With that said we should arrest all Adobe developers and give them life in prison without parole.
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Yellow posted...
As a user of solely open source software, Gimp is notoriously not good enough. All Gimp users understand this. Krita is probably better, I don't really know what photoshop users do aside from making lame youtube thumbnails anyway.
What do you mean by not good enough? It's good enough for everything I ever used it for. I know the developers used to explicitly claim that it's not meant to be an alternative to Photoshop, whatever that means exactly. GIMP also supports a ton of extensions for things it can't do out of the box.

I really want to get back to using Linux as my main OS soon. I'll definitely give Krita a shot if/when I do. For now I'm too used to GIMP and have no real reason to switch.
kind9 posted...
What do you mean by not good enough? It's good enough for everything I ever used it for. I know the developers used to explicitly claim that it's not meant to be an alternative to Photoshop, whatever that means exactly. GIMP also supports a ton of extensions for things it can't do out of the box.

I really want to get back to using Linux as my main OS soon. I'll definitely give Krita a shot if/when I do. For now I'm too used to GIMP and have no real reason to switch.
I'm going to be honest, image editing is the least of what I do on a computer. Also, I think they made it better recently with the newest versions. The non-destructive layer effects was huge imo.

If I ever draw something, it's with krita. And because I'm so familiar with it, I just use it for everything else. I would never use adobe in any case because that would entail paying for it, and there's no way I'm doing that.
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Yellow posted...
Going overboard gets results, throw them all in jail.

Yellow posted...
With that said we should arrest all Adobe developers and give them life in prison without parole.

We should ban your account.
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Far-Queue posted...
@DirtBasedSoap I got tix to see Modest Mouse and Built To Spill in a few weeks
oh hell yeah

is it with the flaming lips too? I just saw them together last week. MM sounds so good live now

@Far-Queue
im gay
ooger posted...
We should ban your account.
Ok?
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Yellow posted...
Ok?

Yellow posted...
Going overboard gets results

We have to ban your account. It is the only way.
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
oh hell yeah

is it with the flaming lips too? I just saw them together last week. MM sounds so good live now

@Far-Queue
I don't think it's flaming lips but that would be rad. I've never seem MM (or flaming lips) live and the last time I saw Built To Spill was like 20 years ago
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