Abortions and birth control should be paid for entirely by tax dollars of pro-life people.
I dont understand why conservatives get so weird about abortion. For the party of "small government" they sure do like telling people how to live their personal lives.
CiIantro posted...
I dont understand why conservatives get so weird about abortion. For the party of "small government" they sure do like telling people how to live their personal lives.
If you want my money to do something, I absolutely get a say in it. Have all the abortions you want- just don't expect me to foot the bill.
"my abortion is none of your business but I demand you pay for it"
MakoReizei posted...
"my abortion is none of your business but I demand you pay for it"
Really they don't demand it is paid for. They just want one without being harassed and demonized.
creativerealms posted...
MakoReizei posted...
"my abortion is none of your business but I demand you pay for it"
Really they don't demand it is paid for. They just want one without being harassed and demonized.
So we can stop giving Planned Parenthood billions of dollars in taxpayer funding every year?
So we can stop giving Planned Parenthood billions of dollars in taxpayer funding every year?
darkjedilink posted...
So we can stop giving Planned Parenthood billions of dollars in taxpayer funding every year?
Do you realize that PP does far more than just abortions?
GATTJT posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So we can stop giving Planned Parenthood billions of dollars in taxpayer funding every year?
Do you realize that PP does far more than just abortions?
Do you realize that, outside of abortion, most non-Catholic churches offer the exact services without a dime of government money?
GATTJT posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So we can stop giving Planned Parenthood billions of dollars in taxpayer funding every year?
Do you realize that PP does far more than just abortions?
Do you realize that, outside of abortion, most non-Catholic churches offer the exact services without a dime of government money?
GATTJT posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So we can stop giving Planned Parenthood billions of dollars in taxpayer funding every year?
Do you realize that PP does far more than just abortions?
Do you realize that, outside of abortion, most non-Catholic churches offer the exact services without a dime of government money?
darkjedilink posted...
GATTJT posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So we can stop giving Planned Parenthood billions of dollars in taxpayer funding every year?
Do you realize that PP does far more than just abortions?
Do you realize that, outside of abortion, most non-Catholic churches offer the exact services without a dime of government money?
But with planned parenthood offering the same services, we could just not have churches anymore.
GATTJT posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So we can stop giving Planned Parenthood billions of dollars in taxpayer funding every year?
Do you realize that PP does far more than just abortions?
Do you realize that, outside of abortion, most non-Catholic churches offer the exact services without a dime of government money?
darkjedilink posted...
GATTJT posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So we can stop giving Planned Parenthood billions of dollars in taxpayer funding every year?
Do you realize that PP does far more than just abortions?
Do you realize that, outside of abortion, most non-Catholic churches offer the exact services without a dime of government money?
Wait what? Churches provide healthcare now?
ThanksUglyGod posted...
darkjedilink posted...
GATTJT posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So we can stop giving Planned Parenthood billions of dollars in taxpayer funding every year?
Do you realize that PP does far more than just abortions?
Do you realize that, outside of abortion, most non-Catholic churches offer the exact services without a dime of government money?
Wait what? Churches provide healthcare now?
Pretty much every free clinic that doesn't offer abortion services and isn't run by PP is run by a Christian church.
darkjedilink posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
darkjedilink posted...
GATTJT posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So we can stop giving Planned Parenthood billions of dollars in taxpayer funding every year?
Do you realize that PP does far more than just abortions?
Do you realize that, outside of abortion, most non-Catholic churches offer the exact services without a dime of government money?
Wait what? Churches provide healthcare now?
Pretty much every free clinic that doesn't offer abortion services and isn't run by PP is run by a Christian church.
According to infowars or breitbart?
Pretty exhaustive, actually, and a testament to what can be accomplished when you wean yourself off the government tit.
darkjedilink posted...
Pretty exhaustive, actually, and a testament to what can be accomplished when you wean yourself off the government tit.
Indeed, you can accomplish a lot when you don't have to pay taxes to the government and receive millions in donations.
darkjedilink posted...
GATTJT posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So we can stop giving Planned Parenthood billions of dollars in taxpayer funding every year?
Do you realize that PP does far more than just abortions?
Do you realize that, outside of abortion, most non-Catholic churches offer the exact services without a dime of government money?
LOL no, they wouldn't even provide contraceptions because Catholics believe every sperm is sacred. So yes, Catholics believe that masturbation is a sin lol.
FigureOfSpeech posted...
darkjedilink posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
darkjedilink posted...
GATTJT posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So we can stop giving Planned Parenthood billions of dollars in taxpayer funding every year?
Do you realize that PP does far more than just abortions?
Do you realize that, outside of abortion, most non-Catholic churches offer the exact services without a dime of government money?
Wait what? Churches provide healthcare now?
Pretty much every free clinic that doesn't offer abortion services and isn't run by PP is run by a Christian church.
According to infowars or breitbart?
According to churches themselves.
My eldest son's first sonogram is courtesy of the Lutheran church in Willmar, MN. Their information brochures talked up all their non-abortive family planning services, adoption services, pre- and post-natal care, family checkups, etc.
Pretty exhaustive, actually, and a testament to what can be accomplished when you wean yourself off the government tit.
r4X0r posted...
CiIantro posted...
I dont understand why conservatives get so weird about abortion. For the party of "small government" they sure do like telling people how to live their personal lives.
If you want my money to do something, I absolutely get a say in it. Have all the abortions you want- just don't expect me to foot the bill.
But wouldn't you rather save money by providing BC and abortions as opposed to increased law enforcement, courts, public defenders, prisons and etc?
What churches do is irrelevant to the fact that PP's services nonetheless extend far beyond abortion.
Dragonblade01 posted...
What churches do is irrelevant to the fact that PP's services nonetheless extend far beyond abortion.
And that's irrelevant to the fact that, since government funds cannot be used for abortion, and everything else can be 100% funded by private donation, they don't need government funding in any way.
Dragonblade01 posted...
What churches do is irrelevant to the fact that PP's services nonetheless extend far beyond abortion.
And that's irrelevant to the fact that, since government funds cannot be used for abortion, and everything else can be 100% funded by private donation, they don't need government funding in any way.
darkjedilink posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
What churches do is irrelevant to the fact that PP's services nonetheless extend far beyond abortion.
And that's irrelevant to the fact that, since government funds cannot be used for abortion, and everything else can be 100% funded by private donation, they don't need government funding in any way.
Doesn't mean if they don't "need" it or not, it should still have it
darkjedilink posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
What churches do is irrelevant to the fact that PP's services nonetheless extend far beyond abortion.
And that's irrelevant to the fact that, since government funds cannot be used for abortion, and everything else can be 100% funded by private donation, they don't need government funding in any way.
And human beings don't need electricity. Doesn't mean we should shut down the entire power grid and go back to dark ages.
"my abortion is none of your business but I demand you pay for it"
Darklit_Minuet posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
What churches do is irrelevant to the fact that PP's services nonetheless extend far beyond abortion.
And that's irrelevant to the fact that, since government funds cannot be used for abortion, and everything else can be 100% funded by private donation, they don't need government funding in any way.
Doesn't mean if they don't "need" it or not, it should still have it
No, they shouldn't. PP has no right to steal other people's property at gunpoint.
Yes, all healthcare should be subsidized by the government
darkjedilink posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
What churches do is irrelevant to the fact that PP's services nonetheless extend far beyond abortion.
And that's irrelevant to the fact that, since government funds cannot be used for abortion, and everything else can be 100% funded by private donation, they don't need government funding in any way.
Doesn't mean if they don't "need" it or not, it should still have it
No, they shouldn't. PP has no right to steal other people's property at gunpoint.
God this is astronomically stupid. You one of those taxes = theft people?
MakoReizei posted...
"my abortion is none of your business but I demand you pay for it"
I paid less than a cent for this and I deserve to be involved!
Webmaster4531 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
What churches do is irrelevant to the fact that PP's services nonetheless extend far beyond abortion.
And that's irrelevant to the fact that, since government funds cannot be used for abortion, and everything else can be 100% funded by private donation, they don't need government funding in any way.
Doesn't mean if they don't "need" it or not, it should still have it
No, they shouldn't. PP has no right to steal other people's property at gunpoint.
God this is astronomically stupid. You one of those taxes = theft people?
If it's so stupid, why does PP have so much more of a right to my property than I do that they can take it at gunpoint , when all their services save one are offered elsewhere without such?
Dragonblade01 posted...
What churches do is irrelevant to the fact that PP's services nonetheless extend far beyond abortion.
And that's irrelevant to the fact that, since government funds cannot be used for abortion, and everything else can be 100% funded by private donation, they don't need government funding in any way.
A state family planning program has significantly reduced the states teen birth rate and abortion rate among teens and young women, according to analysis from the University of Colorado.
The study found Colorados Title X Family Planning Program helped provide IUDs or birth control implants to nearly 44,000 people between 2009 and 2016.
It also found that for women aged 15 to 19, the states birth rate fell by 54 percent over the same time period. The birth rate fell by 30 percent for women aged 20 to 24, the study found. Over that time period, the average age of a womans first birth in Colorado increased by more than a year among all women.
It also found that abortion rates among women aged 15 to 19 fell by 64 percent from 2009 to 2016, and that the rate declined by 41 percent for women aged 20 to 24 in Colorado.
The percentage of teens giving birth for the second or third time fell by 63 percent.
As a result of the drop in unintended births, the study says, between $66.1 million and $69.6 million in state and federal money was saved that would have otherwise been spent on health care and other help for low-income women and their children.
