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Still gonna buy the collection, though.
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6 is great. And the 5-DLC case is the only case in the series that matches 2-4 in quality.
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Dual Destinies is the only one of the three I'd say rises out of 'bad' and into mediocre and while the DLC case is perfectly fine, I don't think it's amazing. I actually like the space center cases and Turnabout Academy is a top tier filler case. But the whole experience is let down by an extremely poor overarching theme and focus, some obnoxious dumbing down of investigation mechanics and quite frankly some awful animations. Also the first two cases are garbage.
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I never even finished AA6 because I really didnt like it
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How many games have a good sixth game even... Except FF
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
How many games have a good sixth game even... Except FF
Armored Core off the top of my head.
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I just beat 2. Is the third better than 2 cuz 2 felt like a drag at points
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Smashingpmkns posted...
I just beat 2. Is the third better than 2 cuz 2 felt like a drag at points
Ace Attorney 3 is largely considered the series' peak with some silly sods claiming Miles Edgeworth 2 is better.
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Meh. I didn't bother with the 3ds games for obvious reasons.

Now the ace attorney investigations 2 fan translation... that game was amazing and a great final game to end the series. I loved it.
I don't know why people bag on the noodle case in AA6 so much, it was pretty informative.
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Ace Attorney 3 is largely considered the series' peak with some silly sods claiming Miles Edgeworth 2 is better.
Cool I'll check it out. I own the collection so might as well lol I liked the first more than the second by a lot.
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Revisited posted...
Meh. I didn't bother with the 3ds games for obvious reasons.

Now the ace attorney investigations 2 fan translation... that game was amazing and a great final game to end the series. I loved it.

Have you played Great Ace Attorney? Im only halfway through the second one but its been awesome
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HHH_is_the_game posted...
Have you played Great Ace Attorney? Im only halfway through the second one but its been awesome
I bought the collection when it came out and played through the first one. I really enjoyed it but I havent gotten around to the sequel
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Disagree. AA4 and I1 are the only ones that are kind of meh. AA6, AAI2, and GAA2 rival the original trilogy imo.
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that's just like your opinion
HHH_is_the_game posted...
Have you played Great Ace Attorney? Im only halfway through the second one but its been awesome
I saw it on sale on switch, but its also available on ps4, so now I don't know which version to get. My metrics are usually better performance, no load times, and better features.
Revisited posted...
I saw it on sale on switch, but its also available on ps4, so now I don't know which version to get. My metrics are usually better performance, no load times, and better features.
I mean its a visual novel so it runs fine on switch. I think the portability is a major plus
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BlueBoy675 posted...
I mean its a visual novel so it runs fine on switch. I think the portability is a major plus
Yeah that's a good point. So how do they stack up against the original trilogy?
5 and 6 are much easier
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4 is not very good, but 5 and 6 are great.

Neither of them top AA3, both of them beat AA2. How they stack up against AA1 is a close call.
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
How many games have a good sixth game even... Except FF
Street Fighter
Armoured Core
Hitman
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Trumble posted...
4 is not very good, but 5 and 6 are great.

Neither of them top AA3, both of them beat AA2. How they stack up against AA1 is a close call.
Nah. Even AA2 with its issues has a better sense of progression and payoff through its final case.

And all three of the 4 - 6 games have worse cases than Turnabout Big Top. Controversial but factually true opinion.
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Trumble posted...
4 is not very good, but 5 and 6 are great.

Neither of them top AA3, both of them beat AA2. How they stack up against AA1 is a close call.

I think AA1 mostly relies on nostalgia and being the best intro. 1-1 is the perfect intro but like 30 minutes. 1-2, again perfect intro for investigation and lying witness for the 1st day but the 2nd day might just be the worst 2nd day and conclusion in the series. 1-3 has rather annoying witnesses and a lame villain. 1-4 is really the only great stand-out in the original AA1 as 1-5 was made after T&T came out. And 1-5 itself is a bit controversial.
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Nah. Even AA2 with its issues has a better sense of progression and payoff through its final case.

And all three of the 4 - 6 games have worse cases than Turnabout Big Top. Controversial but factually true opinion.
6 had the noodle case and 4 had every case besides the first one, but which one in 5 is worse?
Chicken butt.
i'm glad they're rereleasing them so that a whole new generation of players can be disappointed
Trumble posted...
6 had the noodle case and 4 had every case besides the first one, but which one in 5 is worse?

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GiftedACIII posted...
I think AA1 mostly relies on nostalgia and being the best intro. 1-1 is the perfect intro but like 30 minutes. 1-2, again perfect intro for investigation and lying witness for the 1st day but the 2nd day might just be the worst 2nd day and conclusion in the series. 1-3 has rather annoying witnesses and a lame villain. 1-4 is really the only great stand-out in the original AA1 as 1-5 was made after T&T came out. And 1-5 itself is a bit controversial.
I do agree that the individual cases in AA1 are a bit weak aside from 1-1 and 1-4, but as an overarching plot line of Edgeworth's fall and return to the light, it's honestly unbeat in the series. But also, most of the games have a weak case or two. I don't really like Recipe for Turnabout in AA3, though its far from one of the worse cases in the franchise. That game is pretty unique in how it never really falters.

Trumble posted... 6 had the noodle case and 4 had every case besides the first one, but which one in 5 is worse?
What #28 said. Also the time travel case in 6.
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DeadBankerDream posted...
I do agree that the individual cases in AA1 are a bit weak aside from 1-1 and 1-4, but as an overarching plot line of Edgeworth's fall and return to the light, it's honestly unbeat in the series. But also, most of the games have a weak case or two. I don't really like Recipe for Turnabout in AA3, though its far from one of the worse cases in the franchise. That game is pretty unique in how it never really falters.

What #28 said. Also the time travel case in 6.

I actually don't think 3-2 nor 3-3 are that great myself so my attachment to T&T isn't that huge either.

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PW1 cases are super underrated. One thing the game does great is this constant sense of escalation of justice.

You start by catching a common burglar.

Then in the next case you nail a wealthy and corrupt businessman.

Then after that you go after organized crime.

Then after that you take down the corrupt star prosecutor.

And then finally you take down the police chief.

No other game in the series pulled off a story quite like that. In the other games the cases all seem predominantly disconnected with no relation to each other. Other games feature personal drama that carries over between cases but it's not the same.
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Tyranthraxus posted...
PW1 cases are super underrated. One thing the game does great is this constant sense of escalation of justice.

You start by catching a common burglar.

Then in the next case you nail a wealthy and corrupt businessman.

Then after that you go after organized crime.

Then after that you take down the corrupt star prosecutor.

And then finally you take down the police chief.

No other game in the series pulled off a story quite like that. In the other games the cases all seem predominantly disconnected with no relation to each other. Other games feature personal drama that carries over between cases but it's not the same.

Even AAI1 has done something like that. How many games have you played?

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GiftedACIII posted...
Even AAI1 has done something like that. How many games have you played?

I've played all of them except GAA and PLvsPW

AAI isn't the same thing. It's mostly personal drama with the yatagarasu up until the final case. PW6 did the same thing as well. The cases are just random bullshit until all the personal drama gets a dump on the final case.
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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I think the game kind of bungles that progression you speak of in the second case. Redd White is by far the biggest guy on that totem pole and taking him down in the second case is kind of weird. The movie changed his character completely to a sleazy photographer and I assume this is why. It's probably also why Phoenix isn't allowed to take him down by himself but has to rely on his ghost mentor blackmailing him on the stand into a confession, which is still the worst thing that has ever happened in the series.

The overarching story and theme is great in AA1 but the two middle cases (and I really hate Rise from the Ashes) really bogs it down as you progress through it. Case 2 because how it handles its ending and the third case for having a logically pointless third day of investigation and trial that only really serves story purposes.
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I've played all of them except GAA and PLvsPW

AAI isn't the same thing. It's mostly personal drama with the yatagarasu up until the final case. PW6 did the same thing as well. The cases are just random bullshit until all the personal drama gets a dump on the final case.

AAI also has the escalating progression of corrupt prosecutor-active drug smuggler-wealthy businessman covering for them-active spy-and then full ambassador. PW6 likewise also has low thug to planned out thug to active conspiracies (with another low time thug in between). These games are more connected than AA1 whose only connection are the escalating villains (and Edgeworth's character development which is the actual main plotline of the game) with the cases otherwise being completely random too.
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Hypnospace posted...
Hope you mean that statement literally because there's multiple cases that are easily better than 2-4.
Nah 2-4 is still one of the best cases in the whole franchise which is weird seeing as the whole rest of the game is balls.
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AA6 has the best case in the series, and I'm tired of pretending that it doesn't
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Hypnospace posted...
Redd White is not bigger on the totem pole than Von Karma or Damon Gant, what.
He absolutely is. How is he not? He even has dirt on the chief prosecutor of the district (before it was retconned to being Lana) that allows him to have Phoenix just charged as the murderer just cause he felt like it.

Turbam posted...
AA6 has the best case in the series, and I'm tired of pretending that it doesn't

Definitely not.
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The game claims that Redd White is some all-powerful mogul but does a poor job of showing that. Why not hire someone to steal the paperwork and kill Mia instead of doing it himself and risk leaving incriminating evidence behind? Why did he fold so easily in court when he supposedly controls police and judges?
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I loved the second trilogy.
I liked 4. The forgery case is one of my very favorites, as well as the one where like three crimes happened on the same night, lol. Haven't gotten around to 5 and 6 yet though.

mario2000 posted...
The game claims that Redd White is some all-powerful mogul but does a poor job of showing that. Why not hire someone to steal the paperwork and kill Mia instead of doing it himself and risk leaving incriminating evidence behind? Why did he fold so easily in court when he supposedly controls police and judges?
Yeah, that always felt weird to me. My only explanation is that the judge being a complete idiot actually worked in your favor for once.
I never got to play 4-6 so I'm looking forward to it even though I won't pick it up right away. I need to replay the original trilogy first.
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RetuenOfDevsman posted...
I liked 4. The forgery case is one of my very favorites, as well as the one where like three crimes happened on the same night, lol. Haven't gotten around to 5 and 6 yet though.

Yeah, that always felt weird to me. My only explanation is that the judge being a complete idiot actually worked in your favor for once.
Times where the judge was scared? I seem to remember one time where the judge himself was scared, not just Phoenix
DeadBankerDream posted...
logically pointless third day of investigation and trial
honestly the 3 days of trial is the worst thing about AA1, all the trials that use it (yes even 1-4 as much as I love it) are dragged down by it to some extent
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Turbam posted...
AA6 has the best case in the series, and I'm tired of pretending that it doesn't

The magic case? Because it definitely isn't the last one that JUST KEEPS GOING ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON
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Revisited posted...
Times where the judge was scared? I seem to remember one time where the judge himself was scared, not just Phoenix
Well, in this case he WASN'T scared, probably because the reason everyone else was went completely over his head.
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