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For me its fucking Ted Nugent. As a person holy hell is he a piece of shit but Im listening to Scream Dream; his album from 1980 and fuck he is a good guitar and rock musician
Joel Zimmerman for sure
Kevin Sorbo circa the Hercules era.
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Tom Cruise. The MI movies alone are phenomenal but as a person he's little more than L. Ron Hubbard's rabid Doberman.
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Ye is my favorite living artist. However I don't rock with him anymore for some of his actions. And at the same time I can't hate him. Since he is mentally ill. But I can't support his work anymore due to his horrible actions and hopes that he gets the help that he needs.
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I'm never sure how I feel about Mike Love of the Beach Boys. He has a talent of clearing things up and me being OK with him then saying something stupid to screw it up.
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Stranglehold is one of da greatest classic rock songs.
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I cant really separate the art from the artist, aside from a few unique cases like with Lovecraft. Once I learn someone is a scumbag I have issues with consuming media theyre in. Latest example is Dissection, I liked the sound of the music but I cant enjoy it anymore after learning about this piece of shit bigot, glad he killed himself. Goes for black metal in general, good sounding music but often trash humans that destroy their genre.
I mean, loads probably. Especially if I met them.

But if the art is good enough in their judgement, people will make exceptions.
'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'.
Lars von Trier is the first to come to mind
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Tory Lanez, maybe.
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ForsakenHermit posted...
Tom Cruise. The MI movies alone are phenomenal but as a person he's little more than L. Ron Hubbard's rabid Doberman.

Aye. Good actor and stunt performer. Shame about the Scientology stuff. Same could be said about John Travolta, at least in his prime.
Calling out stupid or reckless decision-making is not "victim blaming."
back in my young, "all religion sucks" days, i disliked dave mustaine for some of his religiously-driven stances but liked his music

wesley snipes. hes basically one of those soverign citizens
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Jon Schaffer (iced earth guitarist, arrested at Jan 6)
The dude from blues traveler
The Gallagher bros.
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Serious_Cat posted...
I'm never sure how I feel about Mike Love of the Beach Boys. He has a talent of clearing things up and me being OK with him then saying something stupid to screw it up.

Mike Love is an absolute piece of shit. Fuck him. If you see The Beach Boys listed as playing anywhere don't go see them because that's Mike Love's band, not the real Beach Boys.

What he did to Brian at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Awards is awful (as well as his own speech)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZSAQX2uuUY

Not to mention when he kicked Brian and Al out of the band after the last time everyone got together back in 2012.
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Definitely Kanye West. He has great music but he's a nutcase lol
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Oh, so many. Off the top of my head:
Roger Waters
Groucho Marx
Moby
John Cleese
Pablo Picasso
Gustav Klimt
Egon Schiele
Woody Allen
Louis CK
Joss Whedon
Courtney Love?



Dont know any of them personally so I cant really say anything about how I think of them off-screen
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Kevin Spacey will probably always be my Ur example
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Mel Gibson.

I use to like Kid Rock but his music just isn't that good anymore.
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Mike Love is an absolute piece of shit. Fuck him. If you see The Beach Boys listed as playing anywhere don't go see them because that's Mike Love's band, not the real Beach Boys.

What he did to Brian at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Awards is awful (as well as his own speech)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZSAQX2uuUY

Not to mention when he kicked Brian and Al out of the band after the last time everyone got together back in 2012.

Wow. I've never seen this. Bizarre, disgraceful, and disrespectful behavior. They would've cut the mic off if someone started in on that kind of thing nowadays.
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Eric Clapton

Man the guy just...needs to shut the fuck up
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Extending it to YouTubers, Badempanada.

He makes some great video essays most of the time but his negative habits in his personal life bleed in to his work. If he's responding to another YouTuber expect him to attack with the worst vitriol and bile imaginable and he will always assume the worst about the person he is critiquing. But that's not even the worst of his problems. He's been banned on Twitter multiple times for being anti-Israel to the point where some of his takes could be posted on Stormfront. As a video essayist he's one of the best but ad person dude embodies every negative stereotype about Breadtube and online leftists.
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Ehhh a lot. But for truly egregious cases I really can't separate the art from the artist.
R. Kelly. Responsible for some of the all-time greatest black cookout songs, but unfortunately he's a sexual predator and pedo so fuck him
I have nothing else to say
Idk I don't really give a shit how they are as people I just want them to entertain me
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warlock7735 posted...
The dude from blues traveler
Gonna need a little more than that, hoss.

tankboy posted...
Groucho Marx
What did Groucho do?

The world may be going to Hell, but I am personally awash with convenience.
Sabaton, great music but shit people.
DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted...
Gonna need a little more than that, hoss.

What did Groucho do?
He fat
Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd.
I don't know if I necessarily "hate" any of them, becasue I don't know them personally, but there are a few that I would have a tough time supporting a new project they release.

But I can't retroactively all of a sudden think a song/movie/TV show is all of a sudden not good becasue a person involved with it isn't a good person.

Like, no matter what he did, The Cosby Show is still one of the funniest family-oriented sitcoms in TV history. Nothing will change that.
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John Lydon. I love Public Image Limited, but he's a jackass
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Talented directors and/or showrunners who are abusive towards cast members, i.e. Kubrick, Friedkin, and Whedon.
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John Lennon
Roger Waters
David Lee Roth
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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted...
What did Groucho do?

Uh, have you ever heard of Marxism? Look it up, sweetie.
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pinky0926 posted...
Eric Clapton

Man the guy just...needs to shut the fuck up

What for?
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I don't know any of these people outside of their art.
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Devilanse333 posted...
What for?

He had a pretty infamous bigoted rant about immigrants back in like the 80s and he was anti-vax during covid.
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
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Eh, whatever.
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Heineken14 posted...
Uh, have you ever heard of Marxism? Look it up, sweetie.

Lol
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Dave Mustaine seems like a real piece of work in real life, but one of the metal legends.

Clint Eastwood is a legendary actor, but a right wing boomer dipshit.
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My understanding is that Groucho was notoriously bad to the women he was close to, even if granting historical context.

I'd also like to add:
Billy Corgan
Salvador Dali
John Lennon

Torgo posted...
Dave Mustaine seems like a real piece of work in real life, but one of the metal legends.

Clint Eastwood is a legendary actor, but a right wing boomer dipshit.
Eastwood is Silent Generation, not a Baby Boomer.

The world may be going to Hell, but I am personally awash with convenience.
Devilanse333 posted...
What for?
Because he said this during a gig:

(I've censored it and used spoiler tags, so anyone who doesn't want to see a truly nasty racist outburst doesn't have to).

Do we have any foreigners in the audience tonight? If so, please put up your hands So where are you? Well, wherever you all are, I think you should all just leave. Not just leave the hall, leave our country I dont want you here, in the room or in my country. Listen to me, man! I think we should send them all back. Stop Britain from becoming a black colony. Get the foreigners out. Get the [redacted] out. Get the [redacted] out. Keep Britain white The black [redacted] and [redacted] and Arabs and fucking Jamaicans dont belong here, we dont want them here. This is England, this is a white country, we dont want any black [redacted] and [redacted] living here. We need to make clear to them they are not welcome. England is for white people, man This is Great Britain, a white country, what is happening to us, for fucks sake? Throw the [redacted] out! Keep Britain white!
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Devilanse333 posted...
What for?

"Do we have any foreigners in the audience tonight? If so, please put up your hands. So where are you? Well wherever you all are, I think you should all just leave. Not just leave the hall, leave our country. I don't want you here, in the room or in my country. Listen to me, man! I think we should vote for Enoch Powell. Enoch's our man. I think Enoch's right, I think we should send them all back. Stop Britain from becoming a black colony. Get the foreigners out. Get the wogs out. Get the coons out. Keep Britain white. I used to be into dope, now I'm into racism. It's much heavier, man. Fucking wogs, man. Fucking Saudis taking over London. Bastard wogs. Britain is becoming overcrowded and Enoch will stop it and send them all back. The black wogs and coons and Arabs and fucking Jamaicans don't belong here, we don't want them here. This is England, this is a white country, we don't want any black wogs and coons living here. We need to make clear to them they are not welcome. England is for white people, man. This is Great Britain, a white country, what is happening to us, for fuck's sake? Throw the wogs out! Keep Britain white!"

Then when later asked about this, defaulted to "I can't be racist, I make black people music! I don't see colour! I stay out of racial conflict!"

Pretty wild for a guy who's entire career is straight up co-opting a style of blues almost entirely invented by black street musicians of the 1930s
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