or what if there was a better tax system to fund paying doctors and healthcare worker much better to attract more people to supply the demand of free healthcareLiterally doesnt work. See Canada and UK; their healthcare system is falling apart with months of wait time before being able to see a specialist.
To the receiver of healthcare, there should be some per-use cost to it. It shouldnt be free, and it shouldnt be like $2000 to call an ambulance, but it should be something enough that people will think twice to using, so that it doesnt overtax the already overtaxed healthcare system. For example, if its free or like $10 to go to a doctor, then everyone will just go to the doctor for every little stupid shit.
Literally doesnt work. See Canada and UK; their healthcare system is falling apart with months of wait time before being able to see a specialist.The problem in the UK is decades of Tory underfunding and mismanagement. Not a failure to charge people.
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For example, if its free or like $10 to go to a doctor, then everyone will just go to the doctor for every little stupid shit.no they won't what the fuck are you talking about
Literally doesnt work. See Canada and UK; their healthcare system is falling apart with months of wait time before being able to see a specialist.ok what about all the other countries with normal healthcare systems
there is a cost it's called timeBrah, when I lived in NYC, I saw doctor offices crowded with people using Medicaid and my wait times were like over an hour past my appointment, every single time. Im so happy I left that hellhole of a city (though I do miss the food and broadway shows).
no they won't what the fuck are you talking about
For example, if its free or like $10 to go to a doctor, then everyone will just go to the doctor for every little stupid shit.
If people wait to see a doctor until their health gets really bad it ends up costing more in the long run than if they're seeing a doctor regularly and can catch health conditions early when they're not as severe and are easier (and cheaper) to treat.
Brah, when I lived in NYC, I saw doctor offices crowded with people using Medicaid and my wait times were like over an hour past my appointment, every single time. Im so happy I left that hellhole of a city (though I do miss the food and broadway shows).
$30 copay is super low these days...
$75 is more common, plus a $7000 deductible before insurance will even start paying, then 50% coinsurance, meaning after the first 7000, you still pay 50%.
So that doctors visit costs $200 minimum out of pocket these days...
Literally doesnt work. See Canada and UK; their healthcare system is falling apart with months of wait time before being able to see a specialist.I'd take months of wait time to see a specialist over not getting to see a specialist at all.
Explanation to man with pea brained take. Free means paid for with taxes, not gratis.You literally didnt read the OP did you. I said per use; this topic doesnt have anything to do with funding the majority of the healthcare via taxes.
Sure. But my point is pretty clear regardless of the number, right?Yeah, but I don't totally agree. What ends up happening a lot of the time if a poor person can't see a doctor is they eventually end up in the emergency room which costs more than several visits to a primary care physician. And if they can't pay, the hospital has to make that up somewhere so the rest of us end up paying for it indirectly in higher healthcare costs.
Uh... there already technically isn't anything stopping people. No one gets turned away for lacking money at a hospitalEmergency care, sure; but routine care, no that gets turned down. Doctor offices require payment on service to be rendered upfront or right after (at least here in western PA).
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Emergency care, sure; but routine care, no that gets turned down. Doctor offices require payment on service to be rendered upfront or right after (at least here in western PA).I get a bill later on pretty much anywhere I go.
You've either never worked a paid job or are so poor that even the US government says you need some help if you never pay anything for healthcare.Seriously. It's the most devoid-of-reality take one could have on American healthcare. Costs are insane for almost everyone.
America: *Biggest, scummiest for-profit bullshit healthcare system in the world*That is not at all what they said.
TC: "I dunno maybe healthcare isn't cost-prohibitive enough"
Controversial take:No it isnt. Even with insurance, getting an ambulance or seeing a doctor will be stupid expensive.
*Posts something that already happens*
Yeah deal with that guys!!!
The real argument here is that any system in which the user must pay for medical care is one in which being alive is a luxury, not a right. I, for one, don't feel that that's how it should be.
Yeah, but I don't totally agree. What ends up happening a lot of the time if a poor person can't see a doctor is they eventually end up in the emergency room which costs more than several visits to a primary care physician. And if they can't pay, the hospital has to make that up somewhere so the rest of us end up paying for it indirectly in higher healthcare costs.
That is not at all what they said.It is. TC said healthcare has to have a cost to deter people from wasting resources. It literally has the most cost in America
They even offer an optional higher fee for people who purely want to offset the cost of the office offering limited free slots to low-income patients
That makes me feel good and bad.For sure.
Like stories about the kid who gives up his allowance to pay for his friends school lunch debt.
It's sweet, but why on God's green earth have we allowed it to get to that point?
People should think twice about using healthcare might be the dumbest shit Ive ever read on this board.Well, we do say this in regards to the level of care.
Preventative care should always be encouraged because its so much better for everyone if things are caught before its bad.