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Foppe posted...
Is it better that they start to hire Wagner and becomes Russia allied?

Better than using us as puppets and cover for their war crimes, I think. The only reason they haven't been held accountable by the UN is because we refuse to let them be. This "alliance" makes our country's government far more toxic than it needs to be.

Also there's supposed to be rules/limitations/laws on who we give arms to and how they use them, who we hold everyone accountable to except Israel, which was what Sanders and others proposed; finally holding Israel accountable to the same degree we do everyone else.

I'm sick of them getting this preferential treatment to commit war crimes, genocide, and ethnic cleansing on our tax dollars.

The conventional excuse is they're a useful/stable ally in the region, however the reality is they just use us for whatever they want and we get nothing in return.
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Waibhav Kale: UN says Israeli tank attack killed staff member in Gaza
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-69013439

The United Nations has said that an Indian staff member's death this week in Gaza was caused by an Israeli tank attack on his vehicle.

Col Waibhav Kale, a former Indian army officer, died on Monday after a UN vehicle was struck near the city of Rafah. Another staffer was injured.

Col Kale's death is the first of an international UN worker in Gaza since the start of the conflict.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has said the incident is under review.

On Wednesday, UN Deputy Spokesperson Farhan Haq said the organisation had "no doubt" that shots from an Israeli tank hit the back of the car, which was clearly marked as a UN vehicle.

Mr Haq said the agency wanted to know the circumstances under which the attack took place and was in discussion with Israeli authorities.

He added that the UN Department of Safety and Security (UNDSS), which employed the two staffers, had set up a fact-finding panel to look into the incident.

The UN had earlier said the workers were travelling to the European Hospital near Rafah when their vehicle was struck.

Footage posted on social media and verified by the BBC showed a marked UN vehicle with multiple bullet holes outside the hospital.

The Israeli military said an initial inquiry indicated the vehicle was struck in an active combat zone and it had not been made aware of its route.

But the UN said the vehicle was clearly marked and its planned movements had been announced in advance to Israeli authorities.
Getty Images UN car pictured in the Gaza Strip on 23 AprilGetty Images
A UN car pictured in the Gaza Strip in April this year

Col Kale, 46, was from the western Indian state of Maharashtra and had joined the UNDSS in Gaza weeks before the attack. This was his first deployment in the region.

"He told me that he had joined the UN because it seemed like the best way to make a difference," Gilles Michaud, the Under-Secretary-General for Safety and Security, said in a statement.

"He signed up to work in support of people who desperately need help; in the most dangerous place, at a time of unimaginable crisis. This speaks volumes about his character," he said.

Kale had spent 22 years in the Indian army before he opted for an early retirement; he later worked in a private firm, his family told BBC Marathi.

But unhappy with a desk job, he joined the UNDSS in April.

"Waibhav Kale, an Indian, had nothing to do with Hamas or Israel or this war. But he has sacrificed his life for peace. Now, peace must be restored in Gaza," his cousin Chinmay Kale told local media.

India's mission to the UN in New York said its "deepest condolences are with the family" of Col Kale.

UN secretary-general Antnio Guterres said on Monday that he was "deeply saddened" to learn of the worker's death and sent his condolences to their family, Mr Farhan Haq said in a statement.

In a separate statement, Mr Guterres said more than 190 UN staff had been killed in Gaza since the war began.

Apart from Col Kale, six international aid workers and a Palestinian colleague from the international food charity World Central Kitchen were killed in an Israeli strike at the start of April.

Their deaths sparked an international outcry and the IDF sacked two senior officers over the incident which it described as a "grave accident".

Israel launched a military campaign in Gaza with the stated aim of destroying Hamas - which controls Gaza - in response to the group's cross-border attack on southern Israel on 7 October, during which about 1,200 people were killed and 252 others were taken hostage.

More than 35,090 people have been killed in Gaza since then, according to the territory's Hamas-run health ministry.
Eh, whatever.
Reimu posted...
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has said the incident is under review.
"he was from Hamas India" in 5... 4...
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They're committing so many atrocities back to back we can barely keep up and this allows them to shove it quickly under a rug. Which is probably their strategy.

https://twitter.com/RalphNader/status/1789080212136661060

ZechtAurion posted...
They're committing so many atrocities back to back we can barely keep up and this allows them to shove it quickly under a rug. Which is probably their strategy.

https://twitter.com/RalphNader/status/1789080212136661060
It's probably true, and I want to believe it, but there's no proof..
^I would rephrase that btw but yeah, the sad thing is that as the war has progressed I think it's very probable the Gaza ministry of health has undercounted the dead, for the fact that they're trying to cut no corners to remain legitimate under international scrutiny, but the massively deteriorating conditions means their ability to fully do that job was of course diminished.
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cjsdowg posted...
But I am sick of ppl claiming how much worst Trump would be over there than Biden


Yes...we know.
https://twitter.com/Issaamro/status/1790820035201466412

Unibrowed stank ass hoes.
ZechtAurion posted...
https://twitter.com/Issaamro/status/1790820035201466412

Unibrowed stank ass hoes.
And if the rightful homeowners try to kick them out, the IDF will come and kill them
ZechtAurion posted...
https://twitter.com/Issaamro/status/1790820035201466412

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I hope someone comes and shaves their eyebrow
Hey, everyone, what's going on in this topic? Oh.
This should be it's own post. Biden is getting hurt by this , and still helping the. And I really want to know point blank what would Trump do that is worst than this .
Trump hates RoE, so he'd actually encourage Israel to commit war crimes. He has already whined that Israel even allows journalists to record/release footage of Gaza's devastation.
Remember, this is the same guy who argued that we should assassinate the family members of terrorists "as a deterrent" and threatened to bomb Iran's World Heritage sites. He has repeatedly lamented that criminals and terrorists receive medical treatment. He still insists that the Central Park 5 are guilty and should be executed.

Ok, so it was just the 2k bombs that are off the table. That sucks and he needs to do more. Israel has a 400bn economy, they don't even need our fucking weapons. Ugh what a letdown.
Yeah, the heavy duty aerial bombs. Definitely needs to withhold more than that.

Trump would send in US troops to help the IDF. There would probably already be Israelis settling in Gaza now, in the timeline where Trump was still president
No he wouldn't. Trump opposes putting US troops on the ground in most conflicts. He would totally support sending our Airforce to bomb the hell out of Gaza and our Marines/Navy to shower it with missiles (and possibly West Bank as well) though. As for Israelis settling in Gaza, yeah, I agree with you there.
Trump would even find a way to (illegally or at least dubiously) dip his hands into the Israeli settlement real estate market in some way or another -- don't deny it, you know that he would do this.
white house quadruple downing on no genocide happening

https://youtu.be/rcv9gpq0w4A?si=bz_Kk4c5pP7DqFrs
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-may-16-2024/
IDF soldiers stays in a house in Northern Gaza.
IDF tank drives by, sees a weapon in the window and decides to shoot.
5 dead IDF soldiers, 7 injured.
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Foppe posted...
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-may-16-2024/
IDF soldiers stays in a house in Northern Gaza.
IDF tank drives by, sees a weapon in the window and decides to shoot.
5 dead IDF soldiers, 7 injured.
Just like when they killed the Israeli hostages. They just jump to violence so fast. They think every human in Gaza is a member of Hamas
Makes one wonder if they really saw a weapon or just a person.
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So they are settling in Gaza now.
Biden is the greatest President ever.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/5-israeli-soldiers-killed-friendly-fire-northern-gaza-jabalia-rcna152534

The Israeli military said Thursday that five soldiers were killed and seven injured in a friendly fire incident in northern Gaza, amid renewed battles in the area against regrouped Hamas militants.

"An initial investigation into the deaths of five IDF soldiers reveals that IDF tanks, located dozens of meters away, identified a weapon and fired shells at an IDF force nearby," the IDF said in a statement.

West Bank has oil and continental shelf has natural gas

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/war-gaza-israel-brutal-drive-seize-palestinian-gas-reserves

There is more to this than Netanyahu and greedy settlers. Netanyahu and greedy settlers are just a means.
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Zikten posted...
Just like when they killed the Israeli hostages. They just jump to violence so fast. They think every human in Gaza is a member of Hamas


This is why I have always scoffed at the notion that IF Hamas surrenders Israel will quit their genocide. Every male in Gaza needs to surrender then? And then what would they do with a million prisoners?

It's just such a pile of IDF bullshit.
CNN identifying some of the violent counter protestors at UCLA:

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/16/us/ucla-student-protests-counterprotesters-invs/index.html

The colorful cast includes high school wannabe IDF soldier who was identified because his mother proudly posted pics of him rioting on Facebook.
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Mother says high school student with pole was only defending himself. * Quoted below*

One of those assailants was On, who rushed into the middle of the fray with his pole. When CNN showed Ons mother a video of him attacking the protester, she said Edan, who she confirmed is a senior at Beverly Hills High School, was only defending himself.His mother who previously described a smaller group of UCLA students protesting the war last year as human animals on social media said dozens of his schoolmates had also gone to campus on the 30th and that her son intends to join the Israel Defense Forces.
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CobraGT posted...
Mother says high school student with pole was only defending himself. * Quoted below*
Please tell me this isn't going to be another Rittenhouse, we already have a MAGA coward hiding behind his mother.
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Hornezz posted...
CNN identifying some of the violent counter protesters at UCLA:

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/16/us/ucla-student-protests-counterprotesters-invs/index.html

The colorful cast includes a high school wannabe IDF soldier who was identified because his mother proudly posted pics of him rioting on Facebook.

One of those assailants was On, who rushed into the middle of the fray with his pole. When CNN showed Ons mother a video of him attacking the protester, she said Edan, who she confirmed is a senior at Beverly Hills High School, was only defending himself. His mother who previously described a smaller group of UCLA students protesting the war last year as human animals on social media said dozens of his schoolmates had also gone to campus on the 30th and that her son intends to join the Israel Defense Forces.

The school district said federal law prohibits sharing information about students, including confirming their identities. On could not be reached for comment directly. When CNN contacted Ons mother for an interview with him, she replied that her son was in Israel and that he claimed he wasnt at UCLA despite her earlier confirmation.

The fruit didn't fall far from the tree
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CobraGT posted...
Mother says high school student with pole was only defending himself. * Quoted below*

One of those assailants was On, who rushed into the middle of the fray with his pole. When CNN showed Ons mother a video of him attacking the protester, she said Edan, who she confirmed is a senior at Beverly Hills High School, was only defending himself.His mother who previously described a smaller group of UCLA students protesting the war last year as human animals on social media said dozens of his schoolmates had also gone to campus on the 30th and that her son intends to join the Israel Defense Forces.

Both she and her son are absolute violent scum and I hope they leave this country of their own volition asap.
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conduit posted...
https://twitter.com/i/status/1790439607667986532


This is seriously getting to top 5 all-time human atrocities now. Like...What the fuck. It's just so damn evil. I will never support a single thing from Israel's Gov't again. Like supporting something from Putin's regime now.
Sandalorn posted...
This is seriously getting to top 5 all-time human atrocities now. Like...What the fuck. It's just so damn evil. I will never support a single thing from Israel's Gov't again. Like supporting something from Putin's regime now.

Yeah I've largely viewed the Israeli army and the Russian army as the same for a good while now. And in certain ways they are both fucked up in ways the other aren't. I don't think we have an Israeli example of Bucha, however I also can't think of a Russian example of that shit where Israeli soldiers were burning food in a starved region of Northern Gaza, with one of the assholes actually waxing poetry about how they're bringing light to darkness when they set it on fire. Believe they also danced, sang, and cheered amongst the group.

Also the fact that much of the Russian army is conscripted and forced to be there, while these people in the IOF may be serving their mandatory 2 years, I imagine many are life-long serving members who truly believe in the missions they're carrying out when they're told to burn/destroy food aide, snipe children, and blow up aide trucks.
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darkace77450 posted...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/5-israeli-soldiers-killed-friendly-fire-northern-gaza-jabalia-rcna152534
Fitting. They steal the house and get treated by their fellow soldiers like they would have treated the poor owners of the house.
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It's really a terrible tragedy.

One would hope hamas would return all of the hostages they took and do a complete surrender to end the war and save the lives of their innocent people. It's obvious at this point they stand literally zero chance at any form victory, that any "repercussions" from Isreal's actions will be minor and entirely forgotten in the coming years. The only right thing to do would be to surrender, admit defeat, hand over the hostages and try and prevent more deaths to the innocent people there.

Since none of the above is going to happen, Isreal will continue the war and continue to peruse hamas until they feel it has been "completely defeated", whatever that might entail. Isreal is not going to just stop out of nowhere, this will continue, that's just how it is regardless of what anyone wants. All we can realistically hope for is that Isreal gets this job done quickly and efficiently so the killing can stop and rebuilding, if possible, can begin.
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Ooh, more abuser logic.
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Mmaguy posted...
One would hope hamas would return all of the hostages they took and do a complete surrender to end the war and save the lives of their innocent people. It's obvious at this point they stand literally zero chance at any form victory, that any "repercussions" from Isreal's actions will be minor and entirely forgotten in the coming years. The only right thing to do would be to surrender, admit defeat, hand over the hostages and try and prevent more deaths to the innocent people there.

Israel has rejected a hostage release 2 or 3 times.
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Mmaguy posted...
It's really a terrible tragedy.

One would hope hamas would return all of the hostages they took and do a complete surrender to end the war and save the lives of their innocent people. It's obvious at this point they stand literally zero chance at any form victory, that any "repercussions" from Isreal's actions will be minor and entirely forgotten in the coming years. The only right thing to do would be to surrender, admit defeat, hand over the hostages and try and prevent more deaths to the innocent people there.

Since none of the above is going to happen, Isreal will continue the war and continue to peruse hamas until they feel it has been "completely defeated", whatever that might entail. Isreal is not going to just stop out of nowhere, this will continue, that's just how it is regardless of what anyone wants. All we can realistically hope for is that Isreal gets this job done quickly and efficiently so the killing can stop and rebuilding, if possible, can begin.
Netanyahu and his government have stated like 500 times that they plan to attend destroy all of Gaza even after getting all of the hostages. He even plans on moving out to other countries like Lebanon and go to war with them too.

Where you been at for 7 months?
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Say that Israel is going to keep this going.
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cjsdowg posted...
Israel has rejected a hostage release 2 or 3 times.

Did hamas do a complete surrender, dropped/abandoned all military munitions/outposts and turned themselves in to the IDF?

I'm talking realistically here - the only way Isreal stops (the spokesmen of Isreal, multiple of them I believe, have stated this) is via the complete and utter destruction of hamas, or the complete surrender of hamas and the return of all hostages.

No amount of "hostage negotiation" is going to end this war, you know that. Isreal, like or not, will continue this war/invasion/whatever you want to call it until they, and only they, decide that "hamas has been destroyed".

So there's two options here - hamas returns all hostages (no negotiation, just return them), and does a complete surrender to the IDF, or Isreal continues this war until they, at their discretion, feels hamas has been defeated.

What I just said is their words, not mine. Since we all know hamas will not do a complete surrender, they also will not simply let all the hostages go (no negotiation required, just let them go), then our last option is for Isreal to "complete its mission", and hope they do it quickly with as little deaths as possible.

Again, the whole situation is tragic.

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Mmaguy posted...
Did hamas do a complete surrender, dropped/abandoned all military munitions/outposts and turned themselves in to the IDF?

I'm talking realistically here - the only way Isreal stops (the spokesmen of Isreal, multiple of them I believe, have stated this) is via the complete and utter destruction of hamas, or the complete surrender of hamas and the return of all hostages.

No amount of "hostage negotiation" is going to end this war, you know that. Isreal, like or not, will continue this war/invasion/whatever you want to call it until they, and only they, decide that "hamas has been destroyed".

So there's two options here - hamas returns all hostages (no negotiation, just return them), and does a complete surrender to the IDF, or Isreal continues this war until they, at their discretion, feels hamas has been defeated.

What I just said is their words, not mine. Since we all know hamas will not do a complete surrender, they also will not simply let all the hostages go (no negotiation required, just let them go), then our last option is for Isreal to "complete its mission", and hope they do it quickly with as little deaths as possible.

Again, the whole situation is tragic.
Another bad faith zionist.
Mmaguy posted...
Did hamas do a complete surrender, dropped/abandoned all military munitions/outposts and turned themselves in to the IDF?

I'm talking realistically here - the only way Isreal stops (the spokesmen of Isreal, multiple of them I believe, have stated this) is via the complete and utter destruction of hamas, or the complete surrender of hamas and the return of all hostages.

No amount of "hostage negotiation" is going to end this war, you know that. Isreal, like or not, will continue this war/invasion/whatever you want to call it until they, and only they, decide that "hamas has been destroyed".

So there's two options here - hamas returns all hostages (no negotiation, just return them), and does a complete surrender to the IDF, or Isreal continues this war until they, at their discretion, feels hamas has been defeated.

What I just said is their words, not mine. Since we all know hamas will not do a complete surrender, they also will not simply let all the hostages go (no negotiation required, just let them go), then our last option is for Isreal to "complete its mission", and hope they do it quickly with as little deaths as possible.

Again, the whole situation is tragic.
Remember when Israel actually traded hostages for cease fire?
When it was important to keep the cease fire so more hostages could be traded afterwards?
Remember when IDF thought that it was more important to kill a child?
What is your excuse for that?
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Mmaguy posted...
Again, the whole situation is tragic.


You don't get to say this after sounding like you are part of the IDF marketing team.

Mmaguy posted...
So there's two options here - hamas returns all hostages (no negotiation, just return them), and does a complete surrender to the IDF, or Isreal continues this war until they, at their discretion, feels hamas has been defeated.


So every adult Palestinian male needs to surrender and become a lifelong prisoner to Israel eh?

Fuck so far off.
Sandalorn posted...
So every adult Palestinian male needs to surrender and become a lifelong prisoner to Israel eh?
Better include any child above 4 as well.
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Foppe posted...
Remember when Israel actually traded hostages for cease fire?
When it was important to keep the cease fire so more hostages could be traded afterwards?
Remember when IDF thought that it was more important to kill a child?
What is your excuse for that?

And.. what does any of that have to do with hamas surrendering entirely and completely while returning all hostages without negotiation? Instead of actually replying to any of my points, you started talking about things that have nothing to do with what I said.

Sandalorn posted...
You don't get to say this after sounding like you are part of the IDF marketing team.

So every adult Palestinian male needs to surrender and become a lifelong prisoner to Israel eh?

Fuck so far off.

First of all - I can say whatever I want, you'll just have to deal with that. I'm not being mean or rude or really saying another other than "either hamas surrenders/releases hostages, or Isreal continues until they decide to stop", two pretty common sense things.

Second of all - are you suggesting that every Palestinian male is a part of hamas? I'd imagine hamas is far, far smaller than the total male population in Gaza alone.
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Mmaguy posted...
Second of all - are you suggesting that every Palestinian male is a part of hamas? I'd imagine hamas is far, far smaller than the total male population in Gaza alone.

That's what Israel did, and you're being their mouthpiece are advocating the same thing
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Mmaguy posted...
I'm talking realistically here - the only way Isreal stops (the spokesmen of Isreal, multiple of them I believe, have stated this) is via the complete and utter destruction of hamas, or the complete surrender of hamas and the return of all hostages.

That won't stop Israel and is contrary to every thing they've said and every action they've taken in the last 5-6 months.
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RndmNmber1 posted...
That's what Israel did, and you're being their mouthpiece are advocating the same thing

It's literally not what they did?

Also, how is stating that the only two ways this conflict ends is hamas surrendering or Isreal continuing the war until they are satisfied being a "mouthpiece"? I'm stating common sense. How else is this going to end? Is Isreal going to all of a sudden stop the war out of nowhere? Are we all going to wake up tomorrow and the war is over because "why not?".

Here, I'll ask this question to make this more clear - if this war isn't going to end via either hamas surrendering or Isreal continuing the fight until they decide to end it after completing whatever "mission objectives" they have stated, how is the war going to end? Is Isreal going to be invaded by a group of flying tornado sharks that end the war? What exactly am I saying that's wrong?

DnDer posted...
That won't stop Israel and is contrary to every thing they've said and every action they've taken in the last 5-6 months.

I've seen multiple official Isreal spokesmen in multiple interviews state "this war will end today if Hamas surrenders/releases all the hostages", and then say right after "if they don't surrender, we will continue this fight until we completely destroy hamas and their ability to target Isreal". So it's clearly not contrary to "every thing they've said".

Also - what action has Isreal done that's contrary to the idea of hamas doing a complete surrender/releasing hostages without negotiation? As far as I'm aware, hamas has done neither of those things and thus you have no idea what Isreal would do if they in fact did surrender/release all hostages without negotiation.

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Mmaguy posted...
It's literally not what they did?
Israel doesnt count how many they kill.
They take the official adult male death count and claims that to be how many Hamas soldiers they have killed. Have done since day one.
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Mmaguy posted...
Also - what action has Isreal done that's contrary to the idea of hamas doing a complete surrender/releasing hostages without negotiation?
  • Allow settlers to expand further and further into West Bank, stealing their land
  • Draft plans for Israeli real estate in Gaza now that it's destroyed, including even making a housing website with house pricing.
  • Allowing people outside of Israel to buy Palestinian land
  • Netanyahu and his government repeatedly saying that they will not allow Palestine to have a state under any circumstances. Two-state solution is absolutely unacceptable
  • Netanyahu and his government repeatedly saying that they will continue the war on Gaza long after all hostages are back.
  • Netanyahu and his government saying that Palestinians need to be exterminated
  • Netanyahu and his government stating that the plan is ultimately to remove Palestinians from Gaza entirely.
  • Netanyahu saying "From river to the sea" in regard to the war
  • Netanyahu saying the Palestinian land belongs to the Jewish people.
  • Israel killing off Palestinians for 70 years
  • Israel rejecting every ceasefire/hostage trade offer after breaking the last ceasefire when they sniped some kids
Foppe posted...
Israel doesnt count how many they kill.
They take the official adult male death count and claims that to be how many Hamas soldiers they have killed. Have done since day one.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-death-toll-netanyahu-un-civilians-women-children/

"Fourteen thousand have been killed, combatants, and probably around 16,000 civilians have been killed"

This took me about 10 seconds to find on Google, where Netanyahu states the IDF/Isreal's estimated number of deaths.

VFalcone posted...
* Allow settlers to expand further and further into West Bank, stealing their land
* Draft plans for Israeli real estate in Gaza now that it's destroyed, including even making a housing website with house pricing.
* Allowing people outside of Israel to buy Palestinian land
* Netanyahu and his government repeatedly saying that they will not allow Palestine to have a state under any circumstances. Two-state solution is absolutely unacceptable
* Netanyahu and his government repeatedly saying that they will continue the war on Gaza long after all hostages are back.
* Netanyahu and his government saying that Palestinians need to be exterminated
* Netanyahu and his government stating that the plan is ultimately to remove Palestinians from Gaza entirely.
* Netanyahu saying "From river to the sea" in regard to the war
* Netanyahu saying the Palestinian land belongs to the Jewish people.
* Israel killing off Palestinians for 70 years
* Israel rejecting every ceasefire/hostage trade offer after breaking the last ceasefire when they sniped some kids

None of which is contrary to them ending the war if hamas did a complete surrender/released all hostages without negotiation.
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Mmaguy posted...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-death-toll-netanyahu-un-civilians-women-children/

This took me about 10 seconds to find on Google, where Netanyahu states the IDF/Isreal's estimated number of deaths.
...and they use the official Palestina numbers like I said...
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Mmaguy posted...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-death-toll-netanyahu-un-civilians-women-children/

This took me about 10 seconds to find on Google, where Netanyahu states the IDF/Isreal's estimated number of deaths.
The number of combatants killed is the same as the number of men and boys over 14 killed. But I'm not going to waste any more energy responding to you
Foppe posted...
...and they use the official Palestina numbers like I said...

They do? Because that article specifically states "Neither Israel nor Hamas have provided evidence to show how they reach their respective death toll estimates" .

VFalcone posted...
The number of combatants killed is the same as the number of men and boys over 14 killed. But I'm not going to waste any more energy responding to you

Sounds good, have a nice day/night.
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IDF continues to post pictures of prisoners with the intention of humiliating them.

This is despite it being a war crime and pledging to stamp it out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-69020237

Just more evidence that Palestinians are less than human to them.
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Mmaguy posted...
They do? Because that article specifically states "Neither Israel nor Hamas have provided evidence to show how they reach their respective death toll estimates".
Everybody that have followed these threads have seen that Israel uses the same numbers.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3w4w7/israeli-intelligence-health-ministry-death-toll
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