Guess fucking what, boyo?
Okay... now I'm starting to suspect that Mmaguy may actually just be horrifically uninformed about the situation.
It's still the less likely possibility, but I can no longer rule it out.
I've literally said multiple times that I've read articles/watched interviews by multiple people on multiple sides of the debate/war/whatever, have seen many people on opposing sides stating their views (legal and otherwise), and came to the conclusion that - I do not know enough about international war crimes/law to make an informed opinion, and thus will wait for the court to make a ruling on itOkay, so we can rule uninformed out again then.
I don't know what this means?Motherfucking lol.
If Isreal is commiting war crimes (I've heard about the destroyed aid convoy before), they will be taken to court and punished for it. If and when they are found guilty in a court of law for war crimes, then they will be found guilty of war crimes. Have they been found guilty in a court of law over such crimes? If so, who would deny it? Why would they deny it?
I hate to sound like a broken record but again, it's not all that complicated.
I've literally said multiple times that I've read articles/watched interviews by multiple people on multiple sides of the debate/war/whatever, have seen many people on opposing sides stating their views (legal and otherwise), and came to the conclusion that - I do not know enough about international war crimes/law to make an informed opinion, and thus will wait for the court to make a ruling on it.
I could literally not be anymore transparent than that. It's all of you who have made up some pretend, invisible boogyman in my posts to attack here.
(I've heard about the destroyed aid convoy before)You just don't give a shit.
Hey Mmaguy, is it a bad thing that Israel and their settlers are destroying aid convoys?
Yes or no, if you would.
Okay, so we can rule uninformed out again then.
I'm informed because I watched interviews of both sides saying the other side is wrong? How does that work, exactly?Yeah. Okay. You're just looking for excuses to downplay the situation. No one is really going to believe that something they can see evidence of for themself is not real just because a court hasn't got around to ruling on it yet.
You're not informed either, sir. You THINK you are, but you're not. At all. Unless you're a law professional working in the field of international law/war crimes, you're just a random person on the internet that picked a side.
Everyone on this board is uninformed, I'm just the only one in this thread admitting it and letting the professionals has it out before making a (potentially) informed opinion.
Yeah. Okay. You're just looking for excuses to downplay the situation. No one is really going to believe that something they can see evidence of for themself is not real just because a court hasn't got around to ruling on it yet.
Let's just all stand around with our thumbs up our asses until the courts get to the point.
Surely there isn't any sort of time crunch, like an ongoing genocide.
There will definitely be a Palestine to protect by then.
That's fine, we know exactly what point you're trying for.
Your random opinion, of which you are more than free to have, will not change anything, whether you make your opinion early or late. My random opinion, of which I have not created as I'm waiting for more information, will also not change anything.Has a court confirmed that these won't change anything? If not maybe you should hold off on making that claim until they do, unless you have a Changeology degree?
Has a court confirmed that these won't change anything? If not maybe you should hold off on making that claim until they do, unless you have a Changeology degree?
He is not fooling anyone. It's a tactic used by cowards that actually are fully behind the actions of the IDF but want to hide behind a 10 year in the future court by lawyers (because everyone knows lawyers are the holders of all truth and all humans should wait until these uber-humans tell them what and how to think).
Not sure anything more pathetic has been posted on this board.
I mean we also are to wait and see if Russia committed war crimes which they did but no court said so. IDF target civilians on the regular but nothing comes of it even US ones. They have been given a free pass for decades shooting down a plane just a shrug.
The thing is - there's a very large potion of people, from citizens to professionals to politicians, that publicly support Isreal and the IDF. You're absolutely, 100% allowed to stand with Isreal. It's perfectly reasonable to pick a side.
My opinion, of which I've made quite clear and stated directly more than once, is that I just hope the war ends as fast as possible so people stop dying, and that I'm not informed enough to make an opinion on a few aspects of the war.
If I was all in on the IDF side, I'd just say so. I'm allowed to do so. There's literally no reason whatsoever to not just say it if I was. I could literally just say "I'm with Isreal on this one", and bounce from the thread and be good. I didn't, because like, you know, that's not my view.
Are you sure you're allowed to make this post? Did you get the approval of a group of lawyers first?
I'll do my best to find out. I'll let you know if I find any information on it.
Well...I think you're being very brave.
Pat yourself while you're at it
If I was all in on the IDF side, I'd just say so. I'm allowed to do so. There's literally no reason whatsoever to not just say it if I was. I could literally just say "I'm with Isreal on this one", and bounce from the thread and be good. I didn't, because like, you know, that's not my view.
thus we wait for the courts to figure out what exactly is happening
It's a war and war is ugly. That's why there are very specific guidelines in regards to genocide and the breaking of international law, otherwise you could claim any war that displaces a group of people is genocide when it could simply by the affects of the war.
I'll wait and see what actually is decided before blindly making up my mind based on emotion.
Yeah, the heart of a logical human being that lets the professionals hash it out in court and find out what's actually going on. I'm glad you get it now.
Okay... now I'm starting to suspect that Mmaguy may actually just be horrifically uninformed about the situation.
It's still the less likely possibility, but I can no longer rule it out.
Nah. He's posting at 400+ in the 15th thread and the seventh month of this going on. "Prevarication" is the kindest term you could use for what he's doing.
Are you suggesting that you having an uninformed (or informed, doesn't matter) opinion will somehow make a difference in time/the war?
I mean to be clear - nothing is actually going to happen at all until it's decided in court, and even then it's international law, right? Whatever ruling can barely if at all actually be enforced, sadly.
You're absolutely, 100% allowed to stand with Isreal.
You're worse than Eagles was. He was belligerent, but at least he owned up (eventually) to what Israel was doing.
from CNNInteresting that none of the rioters were injured in anyway yet the soldiers were. Guess when it is Israelis they are treated with velvet gloves no matter what they do, and the opposite is true when they are not.
Israel's military recovers bodies of 3 hostages in tunnel in Gaza, according to spokesperson
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) have recovered the bodies of three hostages in a tunnel in the Gaza Strip, IDF spokesperson Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said in a news conference in Tel Aviv on Friday.
The bodies have been identified by authorities and the families have been informed, Hagari said.
IDF says 3 soldiers lightly wounded during clashes with Israeli settlers over Gaza aid
From CNN's Tamar Michaelis and Tim Lister
The Israel Defense Forces says three soldiers were wounded on Thursday night during clashes with right-wing settlers in the occupied West Bank who were trying to stop a truck they believed was heading for Gaza.
The driver of the truck was also wounded. Images from the scene showed the truck ablaze.
Upon receiving the report, IDF forces arrived at the scene and acted to separate the attackers from the driver and provide the driver with medical treatment.
Dozens of Israeli citizens responded with violence against the forces. As a result, two IDF officers and an additional IDF soldier were lightly injured and were treated at the scene, the IDF added.
If Isreal is commiting war crimes, they will be taken to court and punished for it.how will they be punished for it? The ICJ has literally no way to enforce any of its decisions or punish anybody. They ruled over a decade ago that the separating wall Israel built over the west bank was illegal, and absolutely nothing happened after that. The same will happen here, Israel will attack the ruling and it will not lead to anything. The ICJ has 0 power.
Tamar Gas FieldIsrael will need to be held accountable someday. They can't just get away with this
I think the reason Israel refuses to stop killing off the the men, women and children in Gaza is the Tamar Gas Field. It gives a motive and it gives Israel the backing of the entity that is drilling it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamar_gas_field talks about the gas field from a geological point of view.
It looks to me like Israel is not going to stop until everyone in Gaza is dead or unable to function. I have been asking why and I think Tamar is the answer.
Israel will need to be held accountable someday. They can't just get away with this
Tamar Gas Field...what does the Tamar gas field have to do with Gaza?
I think the reason Israel refuses to stop killing off the the men, women and children in Gaza is the Tamar Gas Field. It gives a motive and it gives Israel the backing of the entity that is drilling it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamar_gas_field talks about the gas field from a geological point of view.
It looks to me like Israel is not going to stop until everyone in Gaza is dead or unable to function. I have been asking why and I think Tamar is the answer.
...what does the Tamar gas field have to do with Gaza?
It is already in the Israel economic zone, it is being drilled and it is far away from Gaza...
I dont know who Hochstein or Chervon is, or what power an envoy got, but I can look at maps.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/49d231e3.jpg
Tamar is in the Gaza economic zone?
"Coincidentally" 3 of the gas fields are just right next to the border line huh.
The drilling site may not be the gas field . All I know is that there is an issue.
The issue may be that there is a gas field by Gaza that promises more productivity or the issue may be that the Chevron/Israeli drilling taps into the Gaza gas field.
There can be legitimate reasons for accessing the gas many miles away from where it is. Due to rock being too hard, rock being too crumbly, high pressure and so on
Drilling is highly technical.