So they want to get rid of the exisiting userbase? And just hope it gets replaced?
Why not make a new website instead?
What, you expect less ads with a bigger userbase?
Its seen as weird when a bunch of forty year olds on the internet do it. But not when teens and young adults do it. Double standards or whatever.
The fact of the matter is that GameFaqs is mostly folks in there late thirties and early forties. Thats just the demographic thats here
so guiding them to stay on topic and not devolve into weird internet culture, 4chan types of discussion will help cultivate the vibe so that it appears to a younger audience that thus place isnt some weird, dark corner of the internet that they need to run away from.
But rather a place they could waste some time on, and make some new friends.
I don't think you can place the blame on Fandom like that. GameFaqs itself under the old regime couldn't retain it's users. This place was the 81st most trafficked website on the entire internet in 2011-- modernization or not, the reason we lost so much engagement on the forums was due to the vibe and culture of GameFaqs not aging into adulthood as it did with it's users.Holy shit dude, are they fucking paying you?
It took so long for us to get swearing for crying out loud. Around 2011 the medium age was 24 years old -- we were all just basically getting out of college, shedding our awkward young adult skins, and becoming normal, mundane, average joes. So the folks who moved on with their lives, and started racking up their various adult milestones posted less and less, meanwhile the folks that didn't do these things, and more or less just retained their "awkward young adult skins" posted more and more.
It upset the vibe of the platform, where the minority of active users had a very large voice...the vocal minority set the tone of what GameFaqs were to become, and it ostracized your normal everyday average joe, which unfortunately made up the vast majority of the active userbase.
A poll of the day in 2010 got 120k votes -- most of those votes were from users under the age of 25. At this point everyone is just an akward kid. We aren't adults yet. We have no credit, we drive crappy cars, and most of us live at home with our parents still. Flash forward to 2016 and where down to 25k users, most over the age of 25. What happened to the rest of them?
Sure some will always just "move on" but for the most part the vibe and culture of GameFaqs continued to appeal to awakward teenagers, and less to normal adults with salaried wages, home ownership, teslas, and wives.
It wouldn't be so bad if the site was also attracting younger users to replace the ones that were aging out, but the newer generation was growing up with smart phones, social media, and influencers -- GameFaqs had none of those things integrated into its platform.
The place didn't evolve with its own userbase, or with the world around it. It just remained frozen in time, and unfortunately the user that attracts is very niche, and not that conducive to growth or monetization.
Fandom recognizes this I'm sure, and I look forward to watching their progress. Will they succeed? Probably not, but I'm eager to watch them try!
Young people have no need for text walkthroughs. Why would they? Youtube is easily accessable now.this statement always strikes me as being along the same logic lines as the news/social media 'pivot to video' in the mid 10s. There will always be a market for well written guides and content for games.
The ONLY needed changes are mods enforcing the written rules equally and fairly against all users, and get rid of mod discretion so they can't invent rules to punish those they don't like for no real reason.
I envision a mobile app that allows for beta & pre-registration sign ups. Thats an easy bell to add, and it comes with whistles in the form of income from brands willing to pay for the service.
EXAMPLE 1
Yes.Oh sweet summer child...
Or better implemented adds, ones that are more experiential in nature, and less generic and in your face.
No I didnt.You cant just run away from that subreddit like you were never part of it, and expect people to not bring it up. you made that mess, and everyone knows it.
Also can we not derail the topic to make it about me again, like its getting old.
I think this is a brilliant idea. And you bring up a brilliant point about GameFAQs not capturing the Mobile audience. I've looked into other mobile games and was super hesitant about starting one. I watched videos of this one game, Brown Dust 2, but it didn't jive with me that I was watching a paid advertisement video. And of course when I went to the message boards, basically dead.
What shocked me even more is that I finally started a new mobile game, Blue Archive, but when I checked out the message board here, DEAD. And this is one of the bigger titles, with tons of fan art, concerts, and even an anime currently rolling.
So the idea of working with companies to allow users here to be the initial entry players sounds incredible. And this is something that always bothered me about GameFAQs; we've some incredible dedicated game fans who will analyze and document everything about games, and yet there's absolutely no communication between game fans and the developers. Yet you see AMAs on reddit and developers speak on places like neogaf/resetera. Why don't we have developers communicate on this board? They will be talking to their biggest game fans. This is something I've always wanted to rectify if I were at the helm.
And in addition, GameFAQs, despite losing out to reddit and youtube, it still has a place in being an easily indexable place for information. I still look for guides on new games I play. And I would not want to go through a video if I can get it in text.
I'm surprised at so many pessimistic and cynical responses. This is a good starting point, though you just need the opportunity to be able to implement ideas... which will come in due time.
I think this is a brilliant idea. And you bring up a brilliant point about GameFAQs not capturing the Mobile audience. I've looked into other mobile games and was super hesitant about starting one. I watched videos of this one game, Brown Dust 2, but it didn't jive with me that I was watching a paid advertisement video. And of course when I went to the message boards, basically dead.
What shocked me even more is that I finally started a new mobile game, Blue Archive, but when I checked out the message board here, DEAD. And this is one of the bigger titles, with tons of fan art, concerts, and even an anime currently rolling.
So the idea of working with companies to allow users here to be the initial entry players sounds incredible. And this is something that always bothered me about GameFAQs; we've some incredible dedicated game fans who will analyze and document everything about games, and yet there's absolutely no communication between game fans and the developers. Yet you see AMAs on reddit and developers speak on places like neogaf/resetera. Why don't we have developers communicate on this board? They will be talking to their biggest game fans. This is something I've always wanted to rectify if I were at the helm.
I'm surprised at so many pessimistic and cynical responses. This is a good starting point, though you just need the opportunity to be able to implement ideas... which will come in due time.
Bounties could be paid out probably not in money but some sort of partnered cryptocurrencyGamestop vibes lol
I am begging tc to go touch some grass
No I didnt.yes you did. you typed up and posted a paragraphs long instructional guide on how exactly they could go about harassing DToast and other GameFAQs employees.
Also can we not derail the topic to make it about me again, like its getting old.
yes you did. you typed up and posted a paragraphs long instructional guide on how exactly they could go about harassing DToast and other GameFAQs employees.
No I didnt.
I shared a public link that Fandom actually wants you to use, that allows users to contest suspensions, and provide feedback.
I didnt instruct nor encourage anyone to abuse the link for the purpose of harassment, in fact the guide itself clearly told users NOT to do that. Users did it anyhow much to my chagrin.
But seriously this is getting tiring, can we just stay on topic?
Like it or not, your past actions are on topic. Hell your entire conceit for this topic is "I've been talking about this for years!" so I don't know why you think your other actions in recent years don't count.You can talk about him being a self admitted corporate shill for years, but dont you DARE talk about his off-site antics with some of the worst users this community has ever seen!!
And lmao at "I just shared the link!" like you didn't know how Tails and crew were and how they would use it. Insanely dishonest but that's your thing.
This is my main. Its always been this @Guide
You know this. We literally worked together to clean the place up.lmfao i didn't "work together" with you on anything. you founded a subreddit that you never moderated properly ever, and when i came across it i marked all of the Reddit content policy violations that i saw. i didn't even know who you were at the time, nor did i care.
I've looked into other mobile games and was super hesitant about starting one. I watched videos of this one game, Brown Dust 2, but it didn't jive with me that I was watching a paid advertisement video. And of course when I went to the message boards, basically dead.
What shocked me even more is that I finally started a new mobile game, Blue Archive, but when I checked out the message board here, DEAD. And this is one of the bigger titles, with tons of fan art, concerts, and even an anime currently rolling.
Huh. I recognize the sig as usual, but not the name.Its fine, I dont post a lot. But I have been here for years
And lmao at "I just shared the link!" like you didn't know how Tails and crew were and how they would use it. Insanely dishonest but that's your thing.
lmfao i didn't "work together" with you on anything. you founded a subreddit that you never moderated properly ever, and when i came across it i marked all of the Reddit content policy violations that i saw. i didn't even know who you were at the time, nor did i care.He refuses to accept that he let those people run amok freely in his subreddit, until you did something about it.
Anything to dodge responsibility, amirite?
List me some things you think I should take responsibility for. Maybe I will take responsibility, maybe I wont. But taking accountability for ones actions, and being truthful with your intent dont always match up.
You can have well meaning or simply neutral intentions, and it can still result in disaster. I can take responsibility for the outcomes, but cant take responsibility for an intent I didnt have.
List it out
Also really funny that Stero edited out the following part of his post...
"A lot of people, including myself used the guide sparingly and in good faith, so removing it would pretty much ensure that it would only get used by the folks who abuse it."
...because he knows it's not true.
This post is evidence enough you're just going to continue to deflect and act like you had nothing to do with Tails and crew and that you're just an innocent bystander who had no idea what they were like.
Engaging in off-site conversation with people who want this place absolutely destroyed for good, while knowing theyre alt-right and banned here is why people dislike the things you say about the future of this website.Yea. I understand that.
You dont understand why the person who built a hive for those people isnt taken seriously when they have ideas for this website?
Intent is irrelevant.
You allowed it to happen.
Frankenstein isn't absolved of what his monster does because he lost control of it. It's still a monster of his design.
Hey Ive asked this multiple times in multiple topics but you keep on ignoring me.
How does making CE read only and banning political talk across the site help increase traffic to the site at all? I think most of us agree that if the site is to stay alive some changes are required but the issue is nothing we have seen from fandom so far looks to be implemented to aid in that goal. As well as answering my direct question above can you elaborate on what changes fandom have made so far that will increase football to the site both in terms of ad hoc users and more importantly repeat visitors who will want to stay?
Okay. Still cant just accept and take responsibility for an intent that isnt mine.
I think part of apologizing is also acknowledging fault even if an unintended outcome happens.
I've known you for a while, and I know you're capable of admitting fault. Your actions were a catalyst that led to the formation of that unhinged group. Can you take responsibility for that?
I go on and on like this for 7 pagesbut not outside, apparently