I wonder how well known this is amongst the Israeli publicThey see the hostages as weak for allowing themselves to be taken prisoner. Its unlikely that theyre all that fussed about getting them back.
I wonder how well known this is amongst the Israeli public"gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelet" or something like that.
Look I dont even fuck with Israel, but no government body would have accepted that kind of offer mere days after that scale of a terrorist attack. We do have to remember that Hamas quite literally a terrorist organization that sees no value in human life when compared to their goals.
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Israel sure didn't give a fuck about those hostages when they proceeded to glass Gaza.
So let me get this straight... a few days after their horrendous terrorist attack where they took hostages... they offered those hostages back in exchange for not being attacked in the area they primarily operate out of?
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Yeah, no shit that was rejected. No country is going to accept that deal.
Wait so Hamas plan was to kill a thousand Israelis, capture a few hundred more, but then release them with the expectation that Israel wouldnt counterattack?My thoughts
riiiight
So let me get this straight... a few days after their horrendous terrorist attack where they took hostages... they offered those hostages back in exchange for not being attacked in the area they primarily operate out of?That's how hostage-taking works, yes. You get leverage in order to make demands.
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Yeah, no shit that was rejected. No country is going to accept that deal.
Was it ever confirmed that Israel knew about the planned attack prior to it happening?
So let me get this straight... a few days after their horrendous terrorist attack where they took hostages... they offered those hostages back in exchange for not being attacked in the area they primarily operate out of?
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Yeah, no shit that was rejected. No country is going to accept that deal.
That's how hostage-taking works, yes. You get leverage in order to make demands.
Multiple freed hostages described the Hamas captors as respectful and casual. Keeping them fed to a degree, and giving them medical care.
a terrorist organization that just slaughtered thousands of civilians doesn't exactly have credibility two days after slaughtering thousands of civilians. bibi is basically a terrorist himself as well, but no legitimate government would ever accept that 'deal'So instead they fired on civilians and the hostages.
So instead they fired on civilians and the hostages.
It's not like I just made it up. Those are the stories they told. I can't speak on stories from after I stopped making making the threads. At the time though, there were no firsthand accounts of rape by freed hostages and the Red Cross also checked and cleared them. Hostages were returned in good health without evidence of assault. The Israeli government said after the fact that hostages were beaten, raped, and killed in captivity. Completely contrary to what the Red Cross said. Like the little girl they claimed was raped and killed but was actually alive and totally fine.
The Israeli government said after the fact that hostages were beaten, raped, and killed in captivity.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/26/middleeast/amit-soussana-israeli-hostage-hamas-sexual-assault-intl/index.htmlThis happened in March so I wasn't following the stories anymore. Point taken.
obviously hamas is explicitly a terrorist group that murdered thousands of people and took hostages, it's weird af that you would try and make them out to be an 'aww shucks what did i get myself into' gag reel instead of insane and evil terrorists. just because the far right israeli government is bad doesn't mean the shitheels in hamas aren't just as badDidn't say they weren't terrorists. I said evidence suggests that they didn't think it would go as far as it has, and didn't think Israel would bomb the hostages. I mean shit, you were literally posting in the live threads. Not sure why you're acting like this didn't happen
Released hostages are saying that.Not even going to post anymore. You're another user who posted in the live threads so the fact that you're acting like I'm making stuff up now is messed up.
That there were a few stories that some of the hostages were treated humanely doesn't mean they all were.
You're just repeating straight hamas propaganda.
Not even going to post anymore. You're another user who posted in the live threads so the fact that you're acting like I'm making stuff up now is messed up.
It's too bad I can't pull up the facts because the threads have long since been purged
The 1,500ish killed on Oct. 7th pales in comparison to what Israel continues to do, 7-8 months later.
Where is the limit?
why is nobody asking why it happened in the first place? Israel encroaching on the West Bank and stealing settlements wholesale from the Palestinians. Jailing, beating, maiming, killing kids. Forcing an entire group of people into whats essentially a walled city, limiting their movements for years.
It is on Hamas as well, but lets not pretend this is a war it is not a war at this point that much is clear.
Israel wants Gaza. They got business moguls already divvying up land. They openly brag about it. And instead of using education and indoctrination over time, they create animosity and more fuel for Hamas regime.
This happened in March so I wasn't following the stories anymore. Point taken.
Didn't say they weren't terrorists. I said evidence suggests that they didn't think it would go as far as it has, and didn't think Israel would bomb the hostages. I mean shit, you were literally posting in the live threads. Not sure why you're acting like this didn't happen
Ah yes, it's totally a viable political stance to just sit on your laurels after a massive terrorist attack shakes your entire nation. You'll get the hostages they took back and everything will be right as rain!
Are you all actually insane or something?
I think this is blind rage but they didn't have an end game planned.
SO where does the killing innocent people fit in there ?
Ah yes, it's totally a viable political stance to just sit on your laurels after a massive terrorist attack shakes your entire nation. You'll get the hostages they took back and everything will be right as rain!If they cared about the hostages, they were handed them on a silver platter.
Are you all actually insane or something?
If they cared about the hostages, they were handed them on a silver platter.
It isn't about the hostages and it has never been about the hostages
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/26/middleeast/amit-soussana-israeli-hostage-hamas-sexual-assault-intl/index.html
obviously hamas is explicitly a terrorist group that murdered thousands of people and took hostages, it's weird af that you would try and make them out to be an 'aww shucks what did i get myself into' gag reel instead of insane and evil terrorists. just because the far right israeli government is bad doesn't mean the shitheels in hamas aren't just as bad
Fucking yikes. I hope you take other hostages word for it that they were repeatedly raped and assaulted as well.
The 1,500ish killed on Oct. 7th pales in comparison to what Israel continues to do, 7-8 months later.The official number is 1139.