If you want him to stop posting you need to stop stirring the pot. Harassing everyone you disagree with isn't the virtue signal you think it is.
Honestly dude no one cares, its got no relevance to this topic, and if he wants to cry about a 2 year old topic then just let him.
LMAO.Apology accepted
Oh no I said you make a lot of shitty posts in a thread where multiple other people are pointing out the same thing and apparently lived rent free in your head for two years due to that.
So that's two interactions, maybe if you keep searching you can find more! For what it's worth I'm sorry if that one-off mostly joking remark bothered you that much.
Hes suspended
The best reaction to a dumpster fire is to ignore it and let it burn itself out.Looks like our reaction worked a lot better.
Looks like our reaction worked a lot better.
As someone who has had meltdowns here I can tell you that snarky comments like that when someone is enraged is only going to fuel the flames and keep them going until they get warned/suspended. And if that's the end goal it's not becoming nor is it a flex.
Looks like our reaction worked a lot better.
Looks like our reaction worked a lot better.
Zero tolerance bullying policies have been complete horse shit since their inception. Absolute shame what happened to this kid.
I'll bring along my smallest violin for all three of you.
The lack of funding and the culture around what schools can do is so fucked.The problem has nothing to do with schools lacking resources or funding and everything to do with schools being terrified of liability and litigation while non-tenured staff are being paid so increasingly little that they have no reason to care about their job.
It doesn't. I know you'll say I'm being sanctimonious, but your reaction distracts further from the topic. If someone is being disruptive, meeting them at their level isn't any better.
The problem has nothing to do with schools lacking resources or funding and everything to do with schools being terrified of liability and litigation while non-tenured staff are being paid so increasingly little that they have no reason to care about their job.If liability is the big concern then they shouldn't allow bullying to the point of suicide. Now they all deserve to be sued into the fucking ground and they deserve cancelation far more than a celebrity who posts racist shit on Twitter.
My mother's been working in a well-funded district for years where you'd expect there to be no problems, yet they're facing the same issues as schools nationwide. I consistently hear the most insane stories you can imagine. Students are borderline illiterate, can't communicate, and are outrageously disrespectful towards their peers and staff alike. Teachers have to walk on eggshells during conferences or behavioral meetings because parents lose their minds at the simple thought of their children not being viewed as anything other than a well-behaved genius.
isn't this your first post in the topic?
You say lack of funding doesnt have anything to do with it then immediately point out that teachers dont get paid enough? I dont get it.On second thought that did come off weird. Just using my mother's job as an example, she's in a well-funded district that's never been understaffed and has more than enough resources available at a moment's notice. For underfunded schools the lack of resources and competent/motivated staff is clearly a huge issue, but from what I hear on a consistent basis, the larger elephant in the room seems to be a combination of younger people becoming progressively dumber, less social, and more cruel while their parents seem to turn a blind eye and become combatitive whenever the finger is pointed at them.
The problem has nothing to do with schools lacking resources or funding and everything to do with schools being terrified of liability and litigation while non-tenured staff are being paid so increasingly little that they have no reason to care about their job.
My mother's been working in a well-funded district for years where you'd expect there to be no problems, yet they're facing the same issues as schools nationwide. I consistently hear the most insane stories you can imagine. Students are borderline illiterate, can't communicate, and are outrageously disrespectful towards their peers and staff alike. Teachers have to walk on eggshells during conferences or behavioral meetings because parents lose their minds at the simple thought of their children not being viewed as anything other than a well-behaved genius.
I been a substitute teacher since 2017 and I seen a lot. There are two kinds of bully's...at least in the most basic level, those who hurt others because they are hurt, and those who think they can do whatever they want, because there parents make them feel that way.At a certain point the latter types of bullies need to be thrown in juvie.
These days parents give hell for any single thing, these days kids can break things and not be punished out of fear of the parents...these days there has to be direct violence and threats before ANY thing is done and sometimes that's STILL not enough because they are so afraid of being sued.
I saw one kid outright brag because his dad was a cop and his mom was a lawyer that he could speed through town and just flash a badge and he would not be charged.
There are many problems but a big problem is that so many parents outright think them and there kids are superior to everyone around them.
But people here said that bullying wasn't a big dealWho said this?
This story is tragic, and it's pretty scary how schools just don't seem to give a fuck to do literally anything unless the bully victim fights back.
There were definitely a group of neanderthals that claimed it "built character"Was an unofficial policy at the school I went to. The headmaster had said in a staff meeting a bit of bastardisation is good for the boys
Was an unofficial policy at the school I went to. The headmaster had said in a staff meeting a bit of bastardisation is good for the boysSounds like your headmaster was a real piece of shit.
The problem nowadays is that schools don't actually discipline awful students.Teachers should definitely be given more power to intervene in these shitty circumstances. I cant say that, in that position, I would be able to ignore such behavior. Teachers arent cut off from telling other teachers that one shitty kid and his friends are bullying another kid who did nothing to them. There are an embarrassing amount of teachers who dont care about the kids they are supposed to be teaching.
Teachers don't actually have the power to actually discipline students in a meaningful way. The most a teacher can do is write it up to the administration, and then the administration will do one of two things:
-Cave when the bully's parents call and threaten to sue the school
-Blame it on the teacher for not being able to handle the bully (with what consequence?) and then take administrative action against the teacher
Kids who are assholes have all the power because school administrations rarely stand up to those dipshit kids, and the consequence is that kids who get picked on can't really be helped in any way.
My mother's been working in a well-funded district for years where you'd expect there to be no problems, yet they're facing the same issues as schools nationwide. I consistently hear the most insane stories you can imagine. Students are borderline illiterate, can't communicate, and are outrageously disrespectful towards their peers and staff alike. Teachers have to walk on eggshells during conferences or behavioral meetings because parents lose their minds at the simple thought of their children not being viewed as anything other than a well-behaved genius.
I been a substitute teacher since 2017 and I seen a lot. There are two kinds of bully's...at least in the most basic level, those who hurt others because they are hurt, and those who think they can do whatever they want, because there parents make them feel that way.
These days parents give hell for any single thing, these days kids can break things and not be punished out of fear of the parents...these days there has to be direct violence and threats before ANY thing is done and sometimes that's STILL not enough because they are so afraid of being sued.
I saw one kid outright brag because his dad was a cop and his mom was a lawyer that he could speed through town and just flash a badge and he would not be charged.
There are many problems but a big problem is that so many parents outright think them and there kids are superior to everyone around them. When so many parents feel kids don't have to be held accountable for there grades or behavior school becomes just a day care where the elite come first, the others dead last.
Teachers should definitely be given more power to intervene in these shitty circumstances. I cant say that, in that position, I would be able to ignore such behavior. Teachers arent cut off from telling other teachers that one shitty kid and his friends are bullying another kid who did nothing to them. There are an embarrassing amount of teachers who dont care about the kids they are supposed to be teaching.
I been a substitute teacher since 2017 and I seen a lot. There are two kinds of bully's...at least in the most basic level, those who hurt others because they are hurt, and those who think they can do whatever they want, because there parents make them feel that way.I went to school with one kid like that. He had a little man complex on account of being roughly 55. He would try to argue and fight with everyone because he was insecure and his parents were rich. He picked the wrong fight with another kid on our bus and the other guy broke the bus window with the little mans head.
These days parents give hell for any single thing, these days kids can break things and not be punished out of fear of the parents...these days there has to be direct violence and threats before ANY thing is done and sometimes that's STILL not enough because they are so afraid of being sued.
I saw one kid outright brag because his dad was a cop and his mom was a lawyer that he could speed through town and just flash a badge and he would not be charged.
There are many problems but a big problem is that so many parents outright think them and there kids are superior to everyone around them. When so many parents feel kids don't have to be held accountable for there grades or behavior school becomes just a day care where the elite come first, the others dead last.
Most teachers care. It's just...what can you do?Its really no wonder fewer and fewer people are going for teaching jobs. Fuck the parents. They taught the bully how to bully and should be held accountable instead of the administration rolling over and showing their bellies.
A group of kids is bullying a student. You can report it to the administration, but what will the administration do? Nothing, probably. Odds are, the administration will blame the teacher for not being able to control the bullies. The administration is scared to death of the parents of the bullies, and that's the truth.
And as a teacher, if you know that reporting something will just result in you (i.e. the teacher doing their job!) having a target on your back for daring to report something and giving more work to the administration, then, well, sometimes you devolve into self-preservation and keep your mouth shut. School administrations spend the majority of their time worried about keeping *that parent* happy.
RIPYeah, its a concern as a parent.
Hoping to raise my kids right and also hoping they won't be bullied, but only time will tell. They are still 1 and 2 so got a bit to go.
As a teacher, you have my gratitude, respect, and if I had the money, I'd donate you some of my salary. You don't get thanked enough for what you do, and it is a shame that most schools don't budget for substitutes. Then they panic when they can't find people to cover classes.
Everything you say is 100% on point. School is suppose to *fix* the problems with society. Instead, it exacerbates them - s***ty entitled kids go through school getting whatever they want, and they do, and they grow up to be a******s. It starts early.
I was bullied as a kid, and the only advice i got was "just ignore them, and they will get bored. They just want to get a reaction, so don't do anything"Christ, even our middle school guidance counselor pointed out that ignoring bullies didn't work and she was scum that did a shit job protecting her students once she decided to retire.
That doesn't work for shit, all they see from that is an easy target.
The only response bullies understand is extreme violence
Its really no wonder fewer and fewer people are going for teaching jobs. Fuck the parents. They taught the bully how to bully and should be held accountable instead of the administration rolling over and showing their bellies.
I was bullied as a kid, and the only advice i got was "just ignore them, and they will get bored. They just want to get a reaction, so don't do anything"
Physical bullying is actually the easiest to deal with. There will usually be evidence, witnesses, and policy can be clear. The more insidious and, in many ways more harmful, bullying takes place verbally and on social media where it is largely hidden from teachers and parents. And what can a teacher do about an out of school hours facebook post anyway? Taking the victim off social media isn't the answer either, as it just further isolates them from the social operations of their peers (as well as punishing them rather than the bullies).
Yah, I don't think schools have yet to really figured out how to get a grasp on Cyber Bullying other then smacking down any outright thing they can see.
In my town next year schools are starting to do a process where they will now be able to see what every student is doing on there computer at all times...while creeping into authoritative plans...seems to be the only way to stop it if they insist on having computers be just about for everything now...I guess as long as its only the school PC's then its not to intrusive.