I love how you're all blaming dems for half of America supporting Trump
Yeah it's Harris' fault that there's between 40-70 million fascism sympathisers
I love how you're all blaming dems for half of America supporting Trump
Yeah it's Harris' fault that there's between 40-70 million fascism sympathisers
I love how you're all blaming dems for half of America supporting Trumpit's moreso that i don't get why kamala's approach to the issue is to just support fascism herself instead of like
Yeah it's Harris' fault that there's between 40-70 million fascism sympathisers
It -is- Harris' fault the rest of the population don't show up under the impression of 'why bother?"If you say so
Dems are failing to understand that politics are too polarized now to win by courting the middle. You have to motivate your own side.
Trump only lost 2 million voters compared to 2020. Even if they literally all went to Harris she still wouldn't have won.
I'd say it's the why bother folk's fault
It's not Harris' fault there are 40-70 million Fascists.
It -is- Harris' fault the rest of the population don't show up under the impression of 'why bother?"
I hate that hte left would refuse to vote if the Democrats courted the right in some views. It doesn't help them at all.
Maybe if they call them facists enough they'll vote blue next time
Because he's only terrible if you are politically aware and a consumer of low bias new sources.oh i totally get that, i just don't see the lgoic behind saying "this man is a genocidal fascist" while making things like "i support israel" a core tenet of the campaign
If you aren't, he's a talented conman backed up by a huge propaganda machine that warps reality to its captive audience.
oh i totally get that, i just don't see the lgoic behind saying "this man is a genocidal fascist" while making things like "i support israel" a core tenet of the campaign
You're welcome to try the same thing again and then lose to whatever right-wing strongman they run next time who yells "TAXES!" loud enough. Again."You should blame the people doing horrible evil things proudly for years on end."
For the third time.
Completely blameless, nothing can be improved upon ever. World's just doomed.
"You should blame the people doing horrible evil things proudly for years on end."
"Improving" the dems is not excusing the Republicans. The second you forget this you're just empowering the far-right. The blame is 100% on Trump and his supporters. 0% on the people who opposed him.
"They didn't oppose him well enough so it's not the Nazis fault" is insane.
The thing is, we also call every candidate the worst possible candidate and say every other candidate would win in their place.Without hyperbole I can't think of a candidate worse than Trump
I think Trump is a better candidate than people like to admit. Winning primaries is not some easy thing you do, and it is the first qualifier to even determining if you can grab voters' attention on a national level. Bad candidates don't lose elections, have their party turn their back on them (post Jan 6 temporarily), get arrested, and then win another national election.
people who aren't voting for us when they're working two jobs to make rent are horrible evil people" has not been a winning strategy so far but you're welcome to continue trying it."You can't blame the far right and their supporters if they work 2 jobs."
"You can't blame the far right and their supporters if they work 2 jobs."
UnfairRepresent posted...
Now tell me what The Far Right has been saying about everyone else for decades? because it worked as a strategy so according to you , they must be blaming themselves or really super respectful
you keep doing this thing where you equate the far right with people that didn't even show up, thus demonstrating the point.If they didn't lift a finger to oppose the far right , that's just as bad if not worse than supporting them
If they didn't lift a finger to oppose the far right , that's just as bad if not worse than supporting them
Stop. Making. Excuses.
the far right fill the airwaves and internet with a 24/7 spam of "TAXES BAD! IMMIGRANTS BAD! CRIME BAD!". It clearly works.
Now, ask the person sitting next to you at work what Kamala's platform was. I'll wait.
If they didn't lift a finger to oppose the far right , that's just as bad if not worse than supporting them
Stop. Making. Excuses.
i dunno, blaming non voters over the candidates running awful campaigns and not listening to any critique outside their inner circle kinda sounds like making excuses."It's not Trump voters fault Trump won. Its the people who opposed him" is bullshit and you know it
"It's not Trump voters fault Trump won. Its the people who opposed him" is bullshit and you know it
If you want to talk about how crap the Harris campaign was, I'm game. You don't need to leave CE to see me doing that for months
But the blame Is 100% on Trump voters and non voters.
This isn't even a debate imo. It's a fact.
"Well it's their fault for not opposing it Hard enough " is mental gymnastic madness
Like stabbing yourself in the eyes with 2 knives and then blaming the doctors for not saving your sight
I'm not having it.
Does blame go to anyone who voted for Trump? Obviously.Trump supporters (and non voters) are 100% to blame
But to pretend like Democrats are blameless not only in blowing the easiest election of our lives but for straight up abandoning the party platform to appeal to its corporate funders?
Not only is it just objectively naive, its an attitude that ensure well never win another election in our lives.
The DNC is dead. It is dead as a direct result of those leading it. To suggest otherwise is just the same cultist behavior that dominates the GOP.
If you say sodid you really just try to say Dick Cheney isn't evil
I'd say it's the why bother folk's fault
But keep making excuses and blaming the people who aren't evil
Trump supporters (and non voters) are 100% to blame
This was not the easiest election of our lifetimes wtf
Trump supporters (and non voters) are 100% to blame
This was not the easiest election of our lifetimes wtf
well, you can fall into one of two categories:
-"Easiest election of our lifetimes and the Dems bungled it"
-"The election is super difficult, so therefore why did the dems not do their utmost to win?"
And either way , Trump voters are 100% to blame
Trump voters are to blame
Good. Glad you agree.
And either way , Trump voters are 100% to blame
Not his opposition
That's how cause and effect works
You can't stab yourself in the balls and then blame the person trying to stop you for not being convincing enough.
Stop. Making. Excuses.
I'm asking why we didn't get Harris
nd what we could have done to get Harris. Keep up.
In the 50 years people are going look at this period and wonder what we were thinking. Twice impeached, felon president
Racism , sexism, stupidity
Focus on selfish messaging instead of calling Trump dumb.
Maybe if they call them facists enough they'll vote blue next time