Young men just need to understand women more. They think guys like Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate know what women want. They don't.
One huge issue is that any leftist Joe Rogan would either be a total asshole nobody should listen to, or would face intense criticism for any ideological diversions and not trying to end Zionism and Capitalism
The first thing that needs to be done is to make left spaces less hostile towards young men.
That's a smaller part of it. The spaces they associate with the left are full of things saying, in so many words, "men bad". Of course they would be repelled from that, and attracted to things saying "the world is treating you unfairly, men are great actually, he's how you can be more masculine". Sure, those sources are incredibly toxic, but why would the average, low-info, and lonely young man ever choose otherwise?
This. If you demonize men it is no shock that you aren't going get many men on your side.No one is actually doing this. Part of the lie to convince men to turn to the right is that the left hates all masculinity which isn't true
No one is actually doing this.
No one is actually doing this. Part of the lie to convince men to turn to the right is that the left hates all masculinity which isn't true
literally just google "twitter i hate men" and scroll through endless images. It's being done at least enough to be visible.
Young men just need to understand women more. They think guys like Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate know what women want. They don't.
Xitter? That's not a platform for anyone except the alt-right and full-on bigots.
Xitter? That's not a platform for anyone except the alt-right and full-on bigots.
When does Andrew Tate even PRETEND to care what women want? He brags women should be grabbed and punched into submission if they argue back
The thing is, this can transfer over to these same beliefs that 'all black people are bad', 'all trans people are bad', 'all mexicans are bad'.... etc. They just fail to see how the same people they attack face this kind of shit day in and day out, and these people try to still be upstanding citizens and are still attacked for being who they are.Problem number 1 there is the false assumption that all of them also think trans are bad, or whatever you insert.
To me, the whole situation is the blind leading the blind here. They want to be seen as 'not all men are bad, I am a nice guy' but refuse to give those royalties to other groups because they feel they deserve it and they are in the right.
America has been strongly getting more publicly angry and defensive. It's incredibly rare to find someone who will agree it was 'their bad' when they were at fault. And the media has been feeding these people this narrative for decades. "You lost your job because THAT GUY FROM COLOMBIA stole it!" ...... not because "You may have an anger problem" or "Saying sexualizing comments to people is bad" .....
Like, I dunno. I am trans. I am pretty much ace. I cannot relate to these guys but it's always been absolutely baffling how they can't just act fucking normal around women. Oh, and on that note, accept that the 'friend zone' is bullshit, and many women would love to settle down with a guy they got to knew first. I think randomly starting dates with people you never met is absolutely the wildest thing and it definitely makes women more on edge and in danger, so women's retaliation against men overall when it comes to dating, likely stem from this.
Hasan, Kyle Kulinski.
(just because you're smarter than a right winger doesn't mean you should be a dick)
No, she said Tate "know what women want", not "care what women want". Different things. The old misogynist standby is that women want to be taken control of, despite their own protests.
What about asmongoldHe's a POS
literally just google "twitter i hate men" and scroll through endless images. It's being done at least enough to be visible.And enough people also believe the world is flat to be visible. If you search on the internet you're going to find negative beliefs that prove literally anything you want. It doesn't change the fact that the very side they're turning to is the one that created the boogie man caricature they're so afraid of/ angry at.
This kind of stance does not help get men into leftist spaces, because it's ignoring the issues that they face, because you don't see it. Tate and them didn't come out of nowhere. They saw a generation of men who didn't feel like they belonged anywhere and took advantage.You're right, they didn't come out of nowhere they're the spawn of the anti-feminist movement that has existed since before all of us were born that's done nothing but turn the idea of female empowerment and equality into an attack on maleness. The idea that leftist and liberals hate men is a lie that uses extremists to push a narrative, you can't argue against it with facts anymore than you can the idea that vaccines cause autism because the person you're arguing against no longer believes abject reality. There is no war on maleness anymore than there's a wave of violent crimes being committed by immigrants.
Might be a joke but honestly, I genuinely think the online left ironically embracing being conservative in regards to male sexual interests plays a not insignificant part in driving many young men away. I've seen tons of straight men who were otherwise progressive with a lot of things get grifted into becoming anti-woke solely because they feel the left are censoring their sexuality.
Left wing spaces have an issue with how dismissive and condescending they can be towards white men, I think.
You need higher education and empathy to understand and follow more liberal ideals.I'm sure it wasn't your intention but this logic is part of the problem. Even though there's more than a shred of truth to it, you can't win people over with the "if you disagree you're uneducated trash" line of thinking. Part of what turns off a lot of people from the left (or at least establishment Democrats) is this air of condescension and superiority.
And enough people also believe the world is flat to be visible. If you search on the internet you're going to find negative beliefs that prove literally anything you want. It doesn't change the fact that the very side they're turning to is the one that created the boogie man caricature they're so afraid of/ angry at.
I've heard enough from Tate to know he just doesn't think what women want is relevant. It's not 'he knows what she wants", his view is "what she wants is irrelevant."That's because he's a rapist.
Can leftist spaces have a billion dollars
You can even see it happening in this topic