Even the most hardcore MAGA are not serious about abolishing elections, right?

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Geiki_Ganger
02/17/2025
01:57 PM
#1
If we put on the MAGA hat and step into their shoes, one might still be able to spin support Trump for what he has done thus far by making specious patriotic arguments.

For example, dismantling the US government with Elon will strengthen the country by getting rid of wasteful spending. Not a winning argument, but at least there is some semblance of justification.

But given how fundamental elections are to a functioning republic or democracy, surely even the most rabid MAGA fanboy cannot support the idea to not hold an election in 2028, right?
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Baron_Ox
02/17/2025
01:59 PM
#2
if it means Trump leading, I don't think they care.

the only time they support elections is when they don't have one of their own in the position they're campaigning for.
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ROBBAN
02/17/2025
01:59 PM
#3
I feel they're taking after Erdogans playbook: "Democracy is like a tram. You ride it until you arrive at your destination, then you step off.
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FrozenBananas
02/17/2025
01:59 PM
#4
Theyve been conditioned by Fox News for over a decade+ that dems are communists and this is actually the best possible outcome. This is what they want
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K181
02/17/2025
02:00 PM
#5
No, of course not. They just want elections to be skewed in such a fashion that it'd be borderline impossible for the GOP to lose, be that with voter suppression efforts in Dem-centric precincts and communities and ultimately to do away with the concept of one-person, one-vote to be able to make current gerrymandering look like child's play by comparison. Celebrate a win every two years and leave a marginable and token Dem opposition to laugh/rage at. Oh wait, then yeah, they just want rubber stamps for their guys.
Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less.
TheOnionKnight
02/17/2025
02:03 PM
#6
The most hardcore MAGA are the ones who want a king. Dovetails very nicely for the evangelical crowd in particular, who conceptualize God as a heavenly king; they're already accustomed to living under a divine monarchy, and they want Trump to fill the same role in government.
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specialkid8
02/17/2025
02:05 PM
#7
I don't think anyone who can be taken seriously actively wants that but a lot would kind of be okay with it as long as it's their guy in the chair. You can twist anything into a victory if you try hard enough, or are told to.
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myusernameislame
02/17/2025
02:06 PM
#8
They may not all want to get rid of elections now, but if it did happen they'd be immediately on board based on whatever justification they're fed.
Accolon
02/17/2025
02:08 PM
#9
Right now we're in the "he won't do that, he can't do that, you're being a doomer" stage.

Then when he does it, it'll be "this is a good thing, cry more libs"
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Trumble
02/17/2025
02:09 PM
#10
There are a lot of people who only support elections when they think their side will win (and maybe at best are open to votes determining who theyre governing alongside, in the case of countries that generally have coalitions). Doubly so amongst MAGA.
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UnfairRepresent
02/17/2025
02:10 PM
#11
They want to be ruled
^ Hey now that's completely unfair!
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DoesntMatter
02/17/2025
02:12 PM
#12
during the election season i saw clips of MAGA cultists at Trump rallies saying "Yeah, what this country NEEDS is a dictator!"

these people are among the stupidest fucking idiots who have ever been a part of the American electorate.
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UnsteadyOwl
02/17/2025
02:18 PM
#13
myusernameislame posted...
They may not all want to get rid of elections now, but if it did happen they'd be immediately on board based on whatever justification they're fed.
Yeah, Trump doesn't need his supporters to want to get rid of elections in order to get them to go along with abolishing them. He just needs to convince them that it's necessary.
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ConfusedTorchic
02/17/2025
02:19 PM
#14
Accolon posted...
Right now we're in the "he won't do that, he can't do that, you're being a doomer" stage.

Then when he does it, it'll be "this is a good thing, cry more libs"

he said he was going to do it and they voraciously cheered for it
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ellis123
02/17/2025
02:20 PM
#15
That is quite literally how "Conservative" became a term.
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wanderingshade
02/17/2025
02:21 PM
#16
That depends on how deep into Protestant Christianity they are and how much they believe they have to defeat seculars and atheists to save America and make it a Christian nation.
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Heineken14
02/17/2025
02:22 PM
#17
Geiki_Ganger posted...
If we put on the MAGA hat and step into their shoes, one might still be able to spin support Trump for what he has done thus far by making specious patriotic arguments.

For example, dismantling the US government with Elon will strengthen the country by getting rid of wasteful spending. Not a winning argument, but at least there is some semblance of justification.

But given how fundamental elections are to a functioning republic or democracy, surely even the most rabid MAGA fanboy cannot support the idea to not hold an election in 2028, right?

A. They don't WANT a functional democracy.
B. They already think elections are rigged anyway, because Donnie and the GOP constantly tell them they are.
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BakonBitz
02/17/2025
02:27 PM
#18
There are legitimately some actual Nazis in the party, so I don't doubt some of them actually want Trump to be a dictator king.
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I4NRulez
02/17/2025
02:27 PM
#19
I currently work for an organization that helps people get SNAP and Medicaid and they do care about whats going on. It is a concern i get from people everyday. They are getting closer to seeing that what Trump is doing is bad but i dont feel like the connection is there yet
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Accolon
02/17/2025
02:31 PM
#20
ConfusedTorchic posted...
he said he was going to do it and they voraciously cheered for it

That was the "he's just joking, he isn't serious, what he really meant was..." stage
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Were_Wyrm
02/17/2025
02:37 PM
#21
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ConfusedTorchic
02/17/2025
07:37 PM
#22
Accolon posted...
That was the "he's just joking, he isn't serious, what he really meant was..." stage

usually that just elicits a laugh, a cheer is support
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Zikten
02/17/2025
07:38 PM
#23
MAGA is OK with anything if their twin deities Trump and Elon declare it's a "good thing"
Voidgolem
02/17/2025
07:40 PM
#24
the most hardcore maga thought he was "just kidding" about never having to vote again.

then you get to the oligarch class who actually are serious about it because it means they can never be held accountable again. So.

...

Me? I choose to believe the system isn't *so* broken as to let a pair of rich fuckwits and their network of similarly fuckwitted people overturn it that thoroughly, if only because the result would be riots that are bad for business at large. It's going to be very close, though.
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jefffan
02/17/2025
07:40 PM
#25
If it means their side wins they'll accept whatever Fox News and Trump tell them.

Not like they care about the Constitution
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Zikten
02/17/2025
07:40 PM
#26
UnfairRepresent posted...
They want to be ruled
Loki in the first Avengers movie was right

"You were made to be ruled"

Paraphrasing. I forget exactly how he says it. When he makes a crowd in Germany kneel to him
EPR-radar
02/17/2025
07:43 PM
#27
It doesn't really matter what MAGAts think about ending elections.

What matters is what the 6 Republicans on the Supreme Court think about abolishing elections.

Alito and Thomas would be for any Republican scheme to end elections and install a GOP dictatorship.

The other 4 would need some kind of "excuse" for doing that, and would probably also insist that some kind of "elections" still occur (as long as they are elections Republicans can't lose, like Putin's elections in Russia).
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ssjevot
02/17/2025
07:43 PM
#28
Authoritarian states generally don't abolish elections. China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, Turkey, Hungary, Venezuela, etc. all have elections. You just don't have free or fair elections. There is no reason to abolish elections.
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wanderingshade
02/17/2025
07:46 PM
#29
Their steadfast belief in social hierarchy leaves them no choice but to be ruled over. A more community based society was fine for a while, but they kept getting upset any time the others (derogatory) got to have anything they wanted, couldn't have, or thought they were entitled to. They're practically chomping at the bit for an India like caste system.
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