So this is the guy we're supposed to prop up as a "hero" of the broader left?Is anyone here saying that? Seems all talk of Hasan comes from your topics and the board mostly agrees with you.
I watched the video. It sounds more to me that he is stating that 'someone else' was going to be using these talking points, and he even says the points are wrong before saying them. False outrage.The person he's responding to said trans people would be better off under Kamala if Kamala conceded to transphobia and anti-trans narratives. Hasan is saying that is wrong. I think I kind of agree with Hasan on this one.
The person he's responding to said trans people would be better off under Kamala if Kamala conceded to transphobia and anti-trans narratives.
Do we have many tankies on CE?
Either way, shut the fuck up Hasan. This nonsense hurts trans people.
He was saying if Harris (and the dems) moved to the right on trans issues and adopted more anti-trans rhetoric to win elections, then that wouldn't be a better environment for trans people even of she won.
This makes sense. If she already threw trans people under the bus just for a chance at winning, what do people think would have happened if she actually won?
Hero of the broader left? Since when?
I feel you care about him more than the online left does tbh
Humble is obsessed with him and trying to paint all leftists/progressives as tankies and other kinds of idiots.
The person he's responding to said trans people would be better off under Kamala if Kamala conceded to transphobia and anti-trans narratives. Hasan is saying that is wrong. I think I kind of agree with Hasan on this one.
TC do you think trans people would be better off under Kamala and Dems if Dems were as anti-trans as Republicans are?
Am I missing something here?
Even if she ceded the narrative for more votes, that administration wouldn't be taking the steps the Trump administration is now against them, so it'd still be better.This. Id rather be mad at Kamala for a bad take on trans women in womens sports than the fuckton of shit Trump is doing to trans people.
His entire goal is to make people think the left lost the election despite tons of evidence they overwhelmingly voted for Harris and that increased turnout would have benefitted Trump. Which is weird that he continues to push that despite the evidence. Almost like his goal is something more than just trying to blame those responsible for her losing.
I feel like they all left. There was Shab and Queen something. Maybe some more I am forgetting. Oh that guy who kept getting modded for claiming the Holodomer was fake, averagejoel or something like that.Tankies have a tendency to do shit like downplay or defend certain genocides and that is a one way trip onto the suspend express.
This makes sense. If she already threw trans people under the bus just for a chance at winning, what do people think would have happened if she actually won?
His entire goal is to make people think the left lost the election despite tons of evidence they overwhelmingly voted for Harris and that increased turnout would have benefitted Trump. Which is weird that he continues to push that despite the evidence. Almost like his goal is something more than just trying to blame those responsible for her losing.
I mean duh. Half of CE blames protest voters for everything. Like legit think thats the sole reason she lost. I get called MAGA for not talking about Trump enough. Humble is the worst of them because anything negative about Democrats means you support Trump.I wouldn't blame them for everything, but what isnt being acknowledged is theres some who think they shouldnt be held accountable for anything. Or the delusional position that the narrative they push or defend is inconsequential.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9876e20e.jpgGreat post.
Then maybe the protest voters shouldn't have been saying that if Harris didn't bend to them, she would lose. They wanted the credit of having a large enough bloc to make a difference, then suddenly claim they had no effect when she lost and the situation in Gaza got worse.
I mean duh. Half of CE blames protest voters for everything. Like legit think thats the sole reason she lost.
Then maybe the protest voters shouldn't have been saying that if Harris didn't bend to them, she would lose. They wanted the credit of having a large enough bloc to make a difference, then suddenly claim they had no effect when she lost and the situation in Gaza got worse.
The people that derailed every single topic with their hatred of Biden/Harris are once again whining that people paid attention to them.
I wouldn't blame them for everything, but what isnt being acknowledged is theres some who think they shouldnt be held accountable for anything. Or the delusional position that the narrative they push or defend is inconsequential.
And yes, talking about Democrats more than Republicans is something to criticize. Having every excuse under the sun why you think its prudent to focus on being critical of Democrats more than the Republicans,.... is something to criticize. Republicans, you know the people who hold the majority in the House, Senate, White House and Supreme Court yet, "lets protest Obama!"
Even more comical is when protest voters are criticized, the defenders hide behind the disingenuous question of, "wElL wHeN iS iT oK tO CrItIcIzE dEmOcRaTs?"
Its a question that intentionally at this point tap dances around its not about being critical of Democrats. Its about being more critical of Democrats than Republicans.
They wanted credit to feel important. But, I mean, maybe Harris shouldn't have been so gung ho over Israel?
or maybe you should being a bootlicker and blindly defending democrats? Fuck you its my right to criticize them. I'll still vote for them because at the end its our only real choice. But if a person saying mean things about Democrats is why we lose then the democrats truly are worthless.
So maybe shut up?
or maybe you should being a bootlicker and blindly defending democrats? Fuck you its my right to criticize them. I'll still vote for them because at the end its our only real choice. But if a person saying mean things about Democrats is why we lose then the democrats truly are worthless.Then stop crying when you're successful at the things you advocate for.
So maybe shut up?
It's always "We can't pressure republicans to change, that's why we focus on attacking democrats". Yet here we are with republicans in charge. Did attacking democrats help keep republicans from fucking things up? No? Then why is this the go-to strategy?
Maybe at some point people need to realize that the constant attacks against every little thing democrats do while never talking about the actual good things they do contribute to voters voting in fascists.
Do they actively act as a splitters who do damage? Yes.
Do we have many tankies on CE?
Either way, shut the fuck up Hasan. This nonsense hurts trans people.
mean when is it? According to you neverYou literally did exactly as I just described right on queue.
but they MIGHT have cost her the popular vote and a few seats in the house and senate