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too late bub

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It is literally incredible that he could have had the tattoo this long without ever knowing what it was.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984
i dont twitter or bluesky or whatever, there a pic of this tattoo that he 'didn't realize' was a swastika?
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Maybe he's just a pirate.

A Nazi pirate.
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EPR-radar posted...
It is literally incredible that he could have had the tattoo this long without ever knowing what it was.

See, notice his exact words on this. He's very specifically not saying "I had no idea what it was" because if he does, I guarantee you multiple people will say he's lying
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monkmith posted...
i dont twitter or bluesky or whatever, there a pic of this tattoo that he 'didn't realize' was a swastika?

It's not a Swastika, it's the Totenkopf symbol.

Yeah, there is.
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yunalenne10 posted...
Pretty interesting that he didn't even try to justify it as a manji symbol.

That wouldn't be possible. It's the skull and bones of the SS
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A nazi trying to infiltrate the democratic party huh.

Fuck these fucking losers.
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LightSnake posted...
That wouldn't be possible. It's the skull and bones of the SS
Yeah, I deleted my post right before your quote.
monkmith posted...
i dont twitter or bluesky or whatever, there a pic of this tattoo that he 'didn't realize' was a swastika?
The tattoo isn't a swastika. It's a skull and crossbones motif that's highly particular to the SS, known as the totenkopf.

Frankly, a swastika would be easier to make excuses for.
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yunalenne10 posted...
Yeah, I deleted my post right before your quote.

All good! I know this is a little unclear from how it's discussed.
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EPR-radar posted...
The tattoo isn't a swastika. It's a skull and crossbones motif that's highly particular to the SS, known as the totenkopf.

Frankly, a swastika would be easier to make excuses for.
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here's the tweet showing the tattoo for folks
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EPR-radar posted...
The tattoo isn't a swastika. It's a skull and crossbones motif that's highly particular to the SS, known as the totenkopf.

Frankly, a swastika would be easier to make excuses for.
i cant really see how a swastika would be easier to excuse...

after looking it up, eh, i can make a solid guess on how he could get that unintentionally. he probably went to a tattoo artist who gets a lot of bikers, and just went through the binder of pic they often have and chose one that looked tough.
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Great, now remove yourself from the primary.
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Can't say I believe him after this article.
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monkmith posted...
i cant really see how a swastika would be easier to excuse...

after looking it up, eh, i can make a solid guess on how he could get that unintentionally. he probably went to a tattoo artist who gets a lot of bikers, and just went through the binder of pic they often have and chose one that looked tough.

I actually do totally believe his story of how he got it in Croatia

I do not understand why he kept it for 20 years and his political director who just resigned just said "he knows exactly what it is."
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
If I just saw the image, I wouldn't have know that it was an SS symbol. I know they had a skull symbol, but not the specific one, and there are tons of skull symbols. And as much as I think people should do research before getting a tattoo, I know that frequently doesn't happen. But like, even without the people saying that he knows what it is, if he's had it for twenty years I find it hard to believe he wouldn't have learned about it during that time. And with the people saying that he knew, that just stacks on top.
I wouldn't have known it was a Nazi symbol myself. I can't recall ever nothing that specific symbol in WW2 stuff and I like to think I'm pretty well read.

Also, if true, it seems like he's known what the tattoo was for at least a decade

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McMarbles posted...
Great, now remove yourself from the primary.
This.

This might be a hot take, but I think that is you ever had a Nazi tattoo you should be barred from ever holding office.

I hope Mills wins the primary.
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monkmith posted...
i cant really see how a swastika would be easier to excuse...
There are versions of the swastika that are substantially different from the Nazi version (it is an ancient symbol, after all), but yeah, the actual Nazi swastika would be worse. I should have said "could" instead of "would".

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El_Dustino posted...
This.

This might be a hot take, but I think that is you ever had a Nazi tattoo you should be barred from ever holding office.

I hope Mills wins the primary.

I'm gonna say I think stuff like this is why the DSCC pushed Mills to run so hard when they didn't run a Democrat in Nebraska last cycle against Dan Osborn
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
Instance of a GOPer accidentally doing/having a Nazi thing #642,091.

Edit: doh, whoops. Admittedly my bad. Instance of a Dem accidentally doing/having a Nazi thing #14 then.

But hopefully Dems prove to themselves to have standards and not nominate the guy.
Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less.
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K181 posted...
Instance of a GOPer accidentally doing/having a Nazi thing #642,091.
This guy is a populist D. Sometimes the perp for an outrage du jour is actually not a Republican.
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rick_alverado posted...
If I just saw the image, I wouldn't have know that it was an SS symbol. I know they had a skull symbol, but not the specific one, and there are tons of skull symbols. And as much as I think people should do research before getting a tattoo, I know that frequently doesn't happen. But like, even without the people saying that he knows what it is, if he's had it for twenty years I find it hard to believe he wouldn't have learned about it during that time. And with the people saying that he knew, that just stacks on top.

The idiot that doesnt research it before getting the tattoo also isnt going to know the German name for the symbol, which he did
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LightSnake posted...
I'm gonna say I think stuff like this is why the DSCC pushed Mills to run so hard when they didn't run a Democrat in Nebraska last cycle against Dan Osborn
Mills is freaking ancient which is a Democrat party problem, but id push for old Mills over a young piece of shit any day
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bfslick50 posted...
The idiot that doesnt research it before getting the tattoo also isnt going to know the German name for the symbol, which he did
two possible points here. one, he could have thought it was funny to trivialize the symbol like he did. or two, the former staffer who got interviewed was lying for publicity.

alternatively he's a nazi supporter playing a long con i guess.
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El_Dustino posted...
This.

This might be a hot take, but I think that is you ever had a Nazi tattoo you should be barred from ever holding office.

I hope Mills wins the primary.
I think there can be paths back from mistakes of our past but that path involves being open and forward about your mistakes, how you came to realize them and what you have done to make amends.

Not backpeddle to defend yourself each time a new skeleton from your closet comes into the light.

Like if his story from the jump was about how serving in the military fucked him up and put him into a terrible headspace where he made mistakes and in the years since he has come to correct himself in all these manner of ways and this is why he believes it is important to have a strong series of social safety nets to help get people back on their feet in their dark times, it would come off way more sympathetic than what he is doing now.
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monkmith posted...
two possible points here. one, he could have thought it was funny to trivialize the symbol like he did. or two, the former staffer who got interviewed was lying for publicity.

alternatively he's a nazi supporter playing a long con i guess.
You've got multiple reports from multiple sources from different time periods saying he knew tho. It's a little harder to pass that off.
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Can we get a list of Republicans that aren't Nazis/Nazi adjacent?

It's probably a much shorter list.
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El_Dustino posted...
Mills is freaking ancient which is a Democrat party problem, but id push for old Mills over a young piece of shit any day

Mills' age isn't ideal, I agree. But setting aside the fact that the state that loves Collins and Olympia Snow doesn't really mind old ladies, this is just a reflection of Mills being the strongest actual candidate. She's a popular governor and they probably felt she was their best shot to take out Collins.

Put it this way: Mills is the only Democrat to win a statewide race in Maine in 13 years
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
Unknown5uspect posted...
You've got multiple reports from multiple sources from different time periods saying he knew tho. It's a little harder to pass that off.
well then i'd probably bet more that he's a dumbass trying to make light of a symbol. but honestly i dont know the sum total of knowledge i have about this guy comes form this topic.
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monkmith posted...
well then i'd probably bet more that he's a dumbass trying to make light of a symbol. but honestly i dont know the sum total of knowledge i have about this guy comes form this topic.

One of the people saying it was his political director who said "he absolutely knows, he's a military history buff."
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
monkmith posted...
two possible points here. one, he could have thought it was funny to trivialize the symbol like he did. or two, the former staffer who got interviewed was lying for publicity.

alternatively he's a nazi supporter playing a long con i guess.

So you think a tattoo on the chest trivializes it? When you see a skin head with a swastika tattoo on his chest you think his goal is to trivialize that symbol instead of incorporating it as a core aspect of their identity?
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Even if he had no idea what it was at the time he got it, someone serving with him in the Marines would have surely known its history and pointed it out to him.
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Dude knew exactly what kind of symbol it is.

He's only now getting it removed because it became public information due to his own actions.

Anti-Black comments, sexual assault comments, having a nazi symbol tatfuckingtooed on your chest. Get him out of my sight.
Honestly, I couldnt identify it, but if you are going use something and tattoo yourself with it, research is always needed
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monkmith posted...
well then i'd probably bet more that he's a dumbass trying to make light of a symbol. but honestly i dont know the sum total of knowledge i have about this guy comes form this topic.
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Compsognathus posted...
I think there can be paths back from mistakes of our past but that path involves being open and forward about your mistakes, how you came to realize them and what you have done to make amends.

I don't disagree with you, and maybe this is my lefty purity testing at work, but there is a difference between letting someone redeem themselves and letting them hold powerful public office.

If Platner was someone I know interpersonally or even a poster on GameFAQs and he came to me and acknowledged how he was wrong and wanted to make amends and move forward than sure. But wanting to go to Congress? I don't think so, I think there are some things that preclude you from being trusted to run for office.

LightSnake posted...
Mills' age isn't ideal, I agree. But setting aside the fact that the state that loves Collins and Olympia Snow doesn't really mind old ladies, this is just a reflection of Mills being the strongest actual candidate. She's a popular governor and they probably felt she was their best shot to take out Collins.

Put it this way: Mills is the only Democrat to win a statewide race in Maine in 13 years
I'm in agreement with you as well, her age really only makes me nervous because I don't want another case of a Dem dying in office and losing their seat, or being unable to vote in key moments due to illness, but that's not enough to not support her when the competition is so vile.
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bfslick50 posted...
So you think a tattoo on the chest trivializes it? When you see a skin head with a swastika tattoo on his chest you think his goal is to trivialize that symbol instead of incorporating it as a core aspect of their identity?
going by the quote
Unknown5uspect posted...
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Can't say I believe him after this article.
where he apparently identified it in a cutesy way, yeah kind of. its not the way someone proud of their nazi ideology would describe a somewhat obscure tattoo i'd think. like i said, man could be a complete dumbass, and complete dumbasses do dumb shit like that for shock value.

or again, nazi long con. which would make bernie look like a dumbass since he's doubled down supporting the guy.
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El_Dustino posted...
I don't disagree with you, and maybe this is my lefty purity testing at work, but there is a difference between letting someone redeem themselves and letting them hold powerful public office.

If Platner was someone I know interpersonally or even a poster on GameFAQs and he came to me and acknowledged how he was wrong and wanted to make amends and move forward than sure. But wanting to go to Congress? I don't think so, I think there are some things that preclude you from being trusted to run for office.

I'm in agreement with you as well, her age really only makes me nervous because I don't want another case of a Dem dying in office and losing their seat, or being unable to vote in key moments due to illness, but that's not enough to not support her when the competition is so vile.

I'm in complete agreement on that. This is a case where I think if they picked like....a populist who wasn't this, the DSCC wouldn't have tried to beg Mills to run and would've just let it go, or at least just left it to a normal primary.

I agree Mills age is a risk and that she's pledged to be a one-termer. But if it knocks Collins out, it's worth the shot and it kinda feels she's the one viable option now. This just feels like we're stuck with her.

If Mills was 10 years younger, I'd be much happier. She's a popular, successful governor even if she's far from perfect
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LightSnake posted...
I agree Mills age is a risk and that she's pledged to be a one-termer.
dont believe a single politician claiming they're only going to run for one term. biden made the same pledge while campaigning and you saw how badly that turned out. had he stuck to his word and primaries were actually won we might not have gotten a second term of trump.
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Just went and looked up both his tat and then the totenkopf and I can see why nobody "told him" it was a Nazi symbol all this time. I wouldn't have known either.... but yeah, that's 100% a Nazi tat.
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monkmith posted...
where he apparently identified it in a cutesy way, yeah kind of. its not the way someone proud of their nazi ideology would describe a somewhat obscure tattoo i'd think. like i said, man could be a complete dumbass, and complete dumbasses do dumb shit like that for shock value.

or again, nazi long con. which would make bernie look like a dumbass since he's doubled down supporting the guy.
There is literally. no. way. that you'd know it's called a Totenkopf without also knowing that it's a Nazi symbol.
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Heineken14 posted...
Just went and looked up both his tat and then the totenkopf and I can see why nobody "told him" it was a Nazi symbol all this time. I wouldn't have known either.... but yeah, that's 100% a Nazi tat.
it absolutely looks like something you'd see on the wall of a cheep tattoo parlor. but yeah it sounds like he was telling people for years what it actually was.
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monkmith posted...
dont believe a single politician claiming they're only going to run for one term. biden made the same pledge while campaigning and you saw how badly that turned out. had he stuck to his word and primaries were actually won we might not have gotten a second term of trump.

No he didn't.
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
UnholyMudcrab posted...
There is literally. no. way. that you'd know it's called a Totenkopf without also knowing that it's a Nazi symbol.
i'm not saying he didn't know, after looking it up it seems pretty obvious that he told multiple people what it was. what i'm saying is that he described it in a mocking way going by that one quote.
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monkmith posted...
dont believe a single politician claiming they're only going to run for one term. biden made the same pledge while campaigning and you saw how badly that turned out. had he stuck to his word and primaries were actually won we might not have gotten a second term of trump.

He didn't pledge that.
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