Fix the Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite launch roster [mvci]

You must keep the roster at 30 characters (15 Marvel, 15 Capcom). Actually this is too hard. Let's say you can add 5 to each side (20 Marvel/20Capcom) if you really can't think of cuts. You do not need to include characters who have been confirmed as DLC.

You can do two versions and I'd personally be interested in hearing about both: your dream roster and a more realistic version if there's significant difference. Dream roster is obviously whichever 30 characters you want so you can kick out Iron Man and Captain America for Jubilee and Vulture or something. Realistically though, some characters are locks and that list should reflect that.

Current roster:
Captain America
Captain Marvel
Dormammu
Dr. Strange
Gamora
Ghost Rider
Hawkeye
Hulk
Iron Man
Nova
Rocket Raccoon
Spider-Man
Thanos
Thor
Ultron

Arthur
Chris Redfield
Chun Li
Dante
Firebrand
Frank West
Haggar
Jedah
Morrigan
Nemesis
Ryu
Spencer
Strider
X
Zero

Confirmed DLC:
Black Panther
Black Widow
Monster Hunter
Sigma
Venom
Winter Soldier



Characters from Marvel 3 not returning:
Deadpool
Dr. Doom
Iron Fist
Magneto
MODOK
Phoenix
Sentinel
She-Hulk
Shuma-Gorath
Storm
Super Skrull
Taskmaster
Wolverine
X-23

Akuma
Amaterasu
C. Viper
Felicia
Hsien-Ko
Jilly V
Phoenix Wright
Trish
Tron Bonne
Vergil
Viewtiful Joe
Wesker


Characters from Marvel 2 that are not in either 3 or Infinite:
Blackheart
Bonerine
Cable
Colossus
Cyclops
Gambit
Iceman
Juggernaut
Marrow
Omega Red
Psylocke
Rogue
Sabretooth
Silver Samurai
Spiral
War Machine

Amingo
Anakaris
B.B. Hood
Cammy
CapCom
Charlie
Dan Hibiki
Dhalsim
Guile
Hayato
Jin Saotome
Ken Masters
M. Bison
Roll
Ruby Heart
Sakura
Servbot
Sonson
Zangief



- characters
+ characters

who gets boot

these games were more fun when Marvel wasn't pushing specific characters to enhance the BRAND SYNERGY with the movies and TV shows

i mean i know the 30 character cap is the biggest 'problem' but is there still a good roster possible with that cap?

I'd be ok with the MCU centric approach if they'd actually used Loki.

Current roster:
Captain America
Captain Marvel
Dormammu
Dr. Strange
Gamora
Ghost Rider
Hulk
Iron Man
Nova
Rocket Raccoon
Spider-Man
Thanos
Thor

Arthur
Chris Redfield
Chun Li
Dante
Firebrand
Frank West
Haggar
Jedah
Morrigan
Nemesis
Ryu
Spencer
Strider
X
Zero


Black Panther
Monster Hunter
Sigma
Venom
Winter Soldier


Deadpool
Dr. Doom
Magneto
MODOK
Phoenix
Sentinel
She-Hulk
Shuma-Gorath
Storm
Wolverine
X-23

Akuma
C. Viper
Felicia
Jill Valentine
Tron Bonne
Viewtiful Joe
Wesker


Blackheart
Cable
Gambit
Iceman
Juggernaut
Psylocke
Rogue
Silver Samurai
Spiral

Amingo
Anakaris
B.B. Hood
Cammy
Captain Commando
Dan Hibiki
Dhalsim
Guile
Hayato
Jin Saotome
Ken Masters
M. Bison
Sakura
Zangief

this is the mega-lineup I'd put together

Loki really is a confusing omission and seems like he's be way more interesting than Winter Soldier.

Spider-Man
Iron Man
Captain America
Hulk
Thor
Wolverine
Magneto
Dr. Doom
Captain Marvel
Loki
Black Panther
Green Goblin
Ms. Marvel
Luke Cage
Kitty Pryde

Ryu
Chun Li
Dante
Morrigan
Leon
Batsu
Captain Commando
Strider Hiryu
X
Metal Man
Phoenix Wright
Amaterasu
Asura
Haggar
BB Hood

30 characters is tough on the Marvel side especially. Between the stone cold locks, the current popular characters, and fitting in a decent contingent of new characters, it's next to impossible. Throw in a desire to include even a modicum of diversity and wow it is not easy. Leaving out popular characters like Rocket and Deadpool was painful, as was leaving out my personal faves from UMvC3 like Taskmaster and Ghost Rider, but throwing them in made it the same kind of terrible recycled sausagefest that the actual game is.

Dream Roster
Marvel
1. Punisher
2. Carnage
3. Crossbones
4. Moon Knight
5. Agent Venom
6. Fantomex
7. Deadpool
8. Ghost Rider
9. Bullseye
10. Daredevil
11. Captain Britain
12. Kate Bishop
13. Taskmaster
14. Lizard
15. Blink

Capcom
1. Claire Redfield
2. Leon S. Kennedy
3. Nemesis
4. Chun-Li
5. Dante
6. Amaterasu
7. BB Hood
8. Akira Kazama
9. Fiona Belli & Hewie
10. Alexia Ashford
11. HUNK
12. Samonuske
13. Regina
14. Alyssa Hamilton
15. Vanessa (P.N.03)

Realistic
Marvel
1. Captain America
2. Hawkeye
3. Hulk
4. Iron Man
5. Spider-Man
6. Thor
7. Deadpool
8. Dr. Doom
9. Magneto
10. Wolverine
11. Cable
12. Cyclops
13. Punisher
14. Daredevil
15. Carnage

Capcom
1. Leon S. Kennedy
2. Chun Li
3. Dante
4. Firebrand
5. Frank West
6. Haggar
7. Morrigan
8. Ryu
9. Strider
10. X
11. Amaterasu
12. Miles Edgeworth
13. Jack Baker
14. Maximo
15. Viewtiful Joe

- Ghost Rider, Nova, Rocket Raccoon, Ultron, oh gosh who do i kick out for Loki
+ Dr. Doom, Gambit, Magneto, Storm, Loki

- Arthur, Chris, Firebrand, Nemesis
+ Amaterasu, Phoenix Wright, Leon, Jilly V


Those aren't the characters I like the most personally but I found those easier to justify than some of my favs.

Gambit returning would have been really cool since he missed out on 3. Magneto/Storm are just too good in VS. Also I would have been interested in Spiral. Marvel 2 gameplay for her was cool and I want to see knife loops in Infinite. Cyclops, Iceman, Psylocke, Rogue I like but don't need.

I don't particularly care too much about any of the Capcom characters I listed since the only one I care about is Viper and she's not getting in over Ryu/Chun. I would have been in favor of kicking those two out too for literally almost any other SF characters but so it goes. But those four I put down stick out to me as very bootable. Would have included BB Hood too but I don't know if I can justify Darkstalkers getting 3 characters with 15 slots. I would jump on any excuse to kick Nemesis. Second DMC character (either Vergil/Trish/evenLady) would be ideal for meee but it's not happening so whatever. Also I like Firebrand and if it was possible to keep him and not Arthur I'd do it but they seem like a package deal.

I'd keep Ghost Rider but just use the Robbie Reyes version for dumb ghost car shenanigans.

who else would play with my roster where i only kept 8 characters from the original and kick out multiple fan favorites

Cyclops
Dazzler
Dormammu
Dr. Doom
Dr. Strange
Emma Frost
Gambit
Gamora
Loki
Magneto
Phoenix
Spider-Man
Spiral
Storm
Wolverine

B.B. Hood
C. Viper
Dante
Firebrand
Jedah
Lady
Leon
Morrigan
Phoenix Wright
Poison
Ruby Heart
Talbain
Trish
Vega
Vergil

Everyone going and making an opposite problem for me with this roster.

Cut Ultron and Chris, add Deadpool and Jill

Add Ammy, Wolverine (With an Old Man Logan skin), PW, Daredevil, Bison, Loki for S1
Add Captain Commando, Moon Knight, Asura, Black Panther, Monster Hunter, Scarlet Witch for S2

Slightly fixed

maaaan fuck nemesis

Not sure why I did this but I'm too far deep now.

Capcom

Slightly realistic cuts

-Captain Marvel, Gamora, Ghost Rider, Nova, Ultron

Slightly realistic additions

+Draxtista, Loki, Ms Marvel, Storm, Wolverine
+Deadpool, Luke Cage, Magneto, Phoenix, Psylocke

Completely unrealistic swaps on top of that

-Dr. Strange, Hawkeye, Hulk, Thanos,
+Gambit, Hobgoblin, Omega Red, Silver Samurai

Marvel

Slightly realistic cuts

-Chris Redfield, Firebrand, Frank West, Jedah, Nemesis

Slightly realistic additions

+Juri, Leon Kennedy, Phoenix Wright, Vergil, Wesker
+Ryu (Breath of Fire), Gene (Godhand), Lady (DMC), M Bison, Samanosuke Akechi

Completely unrealistic swaps beyond that

- Chun Li
+ Mega Man

Overall I find a lot more Capcom characters I want to add than Marvel, and a lot less I'm willing to cut on Capcom than Marvel.

you know on the other hand, a part of me is thankful that certain characters i wanted didn't make it in because i don't want to see them looking ugly as hell

i don't even care anymore

just keep wright out and put doom in and it's probably ok

kateee posted...

who else would play with my roster where i only kept 8 characters from the original and kick out multiple fan favorites

Cyclops
Dazzler
Dormammu
Dr. Doom
Dr. Strange
Emma Frost
Gambit
Gamora
Loki
Magneto
Phoenix
Spider-Man
Spiral
Storm
Wolverine

B.B. Hood
C. Viper
Dante
Firebrand
Jedah
Lady
Leon
Morrigan
Phoenix Wright
Poison
Ruby Heart
Talbain
Trish
Vega
Vergil

Did you try to make a roster worse than what it actually has

Because you succeeded big time

Marvel
Captain America
Daredevil
Deadpool
Dr. Doom
Dr. Strange
Ghost Rider
Hawkeye
Hulk
Iceman
Iron Man
Magneto
Spider-Man
Thanos
Thor
Wolverine

Capcom
Amaterasu
Arthur
Asura
Chris Redfield
Chun Li
Dante
Frank West
Haggar
Nemesis
Ryu
Phoenix
Spencer
Strider
Wesker
Viewtiful Joe
X

Basically, take Marvel 3, remove a bit of fodder as well as some good characters to adjust for puny roster, add Iceman, Daredevil and Asura.

Honestly though UMvC3 just completely nailed the roster so at best this'll just be that but worse with less people

and fuck y'all Nemesis is easily my favorite Resident Evil rep

Honestly when it was confirmed to be MCU centric I was excited for the potential it had to bring in some cool characters that haven't been in yet like Punisher, Daredevil, Loki and even Howard the Duck would be a cool joke character. But they didn't even commit to their own damn concept and kept Ghost Rider and Nova (both of which I like, but really?). Not to mention the comic design for other characters like Gamora. I feel like the MCU you idea was just an excuse for Marvel not wanting to include X-Men character and whatever the hell is going on at Capcom right now

To be perfectly fair, every time something has been said to be "MCU centric," it has almost always referred to the movies only. Loki's a weird one to leave out, yeah, but I never expected Punisher or Daredevil. Not in the initial roster/first batch of DLC, anyway.