What was the general consensus on Great Ace Attorney I and II?

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LiquidOshawott
03/09/2023
06:04 PM
#1
Saw the chronicles on sale and was considering getting it but realized this board doesnt give much buzz about these games compared to previous games

What did you all think about them compared to previous games? Just so I know what I would be getting myself into

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LordoftheMorons
03/09/2023
06:07 PM
#2
GAA1 is okay, but definitely below average for the series

GAA2 is very good
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Arti
03/09/2023
06:10 PM
#3
GAA1 is pretty bad overall, and I only think it's better than AJ of all Ace Attorney games. However, it's extremely necessary to play for GAA2, which is one of the best games in the series, up there with T&T/SoJ.
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TeamRocketElite
03/09/2023
06:11 PM
#4
GAA1 and 2 are both very good games but GAA2 is a little bit better.
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Leonhart4
03/09/2023
06:12 PM
#5
Very good as a duology, the first game doesn't really stand well on its own, so don't give up on the second if you're not a fan.
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Paratroopa1
03/09/2023
06:16 PM
#6
GAA2 is really good and worth getting through GAA1 for
Raka_Putra
03/09/2023
06:24 PM
#7
Amazing duology but yeah it's obvious they're meant as a unified narrative.
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colliding
03/09/2023
06:36 PM
#8
fantastic games

GAA2 might actually be the second best one in the series.
I think GAA1 is still pretty good, but like everyone is pointing out it makes more sense if you think of it as the first half of a regular AA game than its own ting.
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Bitto
03/09/2023
06:40 PM
#9
GAA2 is really good, on par with the best in the series. GAA1 is fine, but is basically setup for GAA2.

Characters and music is all really solid for Ace Attorney too. Special attention to the camera and animations, which is the best in the series by a long shot.
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UshiromiyaEva
03/09/2023
06:41 PM
#10
GAA1 is one of my least favorite games in the series, potentially my least favorite.

GAA2 is one of the best games in the series.

You unfortunately have to play both, not really an option. Luckily, I absolutely think 2's excellence overshadows 1's mediocrity.

It's a good thing they were packaged together, because after playing GAA1, I likely would not have purchased GAA2 had I not already owned it.
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MrSmartGuy
03/09/2023
06:44 PM
#11
GAA2 > T&T > AAI2 > SoJ > DD > AA1 >>> JFA > GAA1 >>>>> AJ > AAI
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Crescent-Moon
03/09/2023
06:44 PM
#12
GAA1 gets a lot more flak than it deserves and GAA2 is excellent.
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UshiromiyaEva
03/09/2023
06:47 PM
#13
I have never pondered where I would rank GAA if it was one large game like it was clearly meant to be, rather than 2 normal sized AA games.

Probably still very high. A lot of my animosity towards GAA1 is how much I hate the final case, but if it was just a middle case it wouldn't bother me as much I suppose...though I would still hate it.
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Hbthebattle
03/09/2023
06:53 PM
#14
GAA is probably better off being treated as just a single 10-case game rather than two separate parts
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Sceptilesolar
03/09/2023
07:32 PM
#15
I don't understand the anger towards GAA1, the 3rd and 5th cases were both great. The second one has a great 3rd case but I'm not that fond of the finale (though it does have the single best section across either game).
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MacArrowny
03/09/2023
08:05 PM
#16
Sceptilesolar posted...
I don't understand the anger towards GAA1, the 3rd and 5th cases were both great. The second one has a great 3rd case but I'm not that fond of the finale (though it does have the single best section across either game).
I feel the same. Really dislike the last 2 GAA2 cases.

G2-3 is the best case in either game
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Leonhart4
03/09/2023
08:56 PM
#17
GAA1 is a lot of fun at times, but the resolutions to most of the cases can be unsatisfying, but they're also designed that way on purpose.

The games are also more fun if you've read the Sherlock Holmes stories so you can understand the references being made.
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_stingers_
03/09/2023
09:01 PM
#18
Raka_Putra posted...
Amazing duology but yeah it's obvious they're meant as a unified narrative.
this yeah dont even separate them in your head. 1 is just cases 1,2 and 2 is cases 3 and 4 in terms of how its written
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Haste_2
03/09/2023
09:19 PM
#19
GAA1 is the worst game in the series (but not bad still!), while GAA2 is about average in the pecking order, I'd say. What hurts GAA2 the most (I feel) is that the main villains are forgettable in the final case. The final case still has some really cool stuff going on leading up to the climax (and there's a good twist), though. The second and third cases are fantastic for non-final cases, too.

T&T
AAI2
DD
SoJ
AA
GAA2
JFA
PLvsPW
AJ
AAI
GAA
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SeabassDebeste
03/10/2023
07:11 AM
#20
one of the reasons it's painful is that these are really really long cases and yeah, GAA1's resolutions suck. if there's a flaw in GAA2 it's certainly that it buckles under the weight of the story it creates by the end.

that said the music, animations, and protagonists are top notch and the general setting is excellent
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azuarc
03/10/2023
01:40 PM
#21
I need to finish playing this. I got through 3 cases and just forgot to continue.

I only have the original trilogy to compare to, but I thought GAA1 was fine from what I'd seen so far.
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Crescent-Moon
03/10/2023
01:45 PM
#22
SeabassDebeste posted...
one of the reasons it's painful is that these are really really long cases and yeah, GAA1's resolutions suck. if there's a flaw in GAA2 it's certainly that it buckles under the weight of the story it creates by the end.

that said the music, animations, and protagonists are top notch and the general setting is excellent
Part of the problem GAA2 has at the end is the primary villain is absurdly easy to see coming for a very long time, and it really doesn't feel like much of an accomplishment to "discover" this and take them down. I feel like they're setting this up back in the first game.

I also immediately figured out the primary reason "why" Kazuma was sent to England in case 1-3 because of how that same character talks to you the first time you meet them.
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Fiop
03/10/2023
01:46 PM
#23
I thought of both of these as one long game, more or less and thought as a unit it was really good. I thought GAA1 was fine for what it was - it wasn't meant to be a standalone game, and works perfectly well in its place.
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UshiromiyaEva
03/10/2023
01:47 PM
#24
azuarc posted...
I need to finish playing this. I got through 3 cases and just forgot to continue.

I only have the original trilogy to compare to, but I thought GAA1 was fine from what I'd seen so far.

The first half of GAA1 is the best part, and if you left off on "case" 3 then that's the high point of the game.

Case 4 is absolutely DREADFUL, one of the worst AA cases period, so sadly would not be coming back on a high note lol.

Case 5 is a lot more mixed reception because I know some people like it a lot and others don't like it at all. Personally it cause me actual mental anguish with how much I hated it. I'm pretty sure this case was responsible for me getting literally sick IRL after playing it. I had never been more down on Ace Attorney as a franchise than when I was forcing my way through GAA1-5.
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azuarc
03/10/2023
01:54 PM
#25
Yikes.
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Crescent-Moon
03/10/2023
01:57 PM
#26
I don't get the hate for the 5th case in GAA1. It wasn't spectacular but it wasn't bad either. I don't mind Graydon as a primary villain because with him they go more "Stylish relatively affable villain" than "Evil menace that needs to be stopped" and it actually kinda works.
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Leonhart4
03/10/2023
01:57 PM
#27
The end of GAA1 is fine. Just go into it with the understanding that it's setting up the next game and it'll probably be less frustrating for you.
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Dels
03/10/2023
02:09 PM
#28
is there a reason we're openly discussing spoilers in a topic from a person who is asking about whether they should play the game
LordoftheMorons
03/10/2023
02:40 PM
#29
Yeah you should really delete that post Crescent
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MacArrowny
03/10/2023
02:46 PM
#30
Has @Crescent-Moon been a troll all along?
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Leonhart4
03/10/2023
02:47 PM
#31
Wonder if Crescent mistook this for the hot take topic
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Crescent-Moon
03/10/2023
02:47 PM
#32
I deleted the wrong post
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colliding
03/10/2023
02:50 PM
#33
I made the hot take topic to explicitly avoid situations like this!
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Crescent-Moon
03/10/2023
02:53 PM
#34
MacArrowny posted...
Has @Crescent-Moon been a troll all along?
Oh and piss off. I deleted the wrong post like 10 minutes earlier and then realized it was the wrong one and deleted the right one.
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UshiromiyaEva
03/10/2023
02:54 PM
#35
Honest mistake, I myself have gone back and forth between these two topics like 9 times now lol.

I almost made an unmarked post about the piece of evidence from case 5 that pissed me off before stopping myself at the last second!
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MacArrowny
03/10/2023
03:18 PM
#36
Gotcha, glad you deleted it. ^_^
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MikeTavish
03/10/2023
03:24 PM
#37
Wife and I loved playing through. Liked it almost more than the OG trilogy tbh. Second game especially.
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Dels
03/10/2023
05:09 PM
#38
Perhaps the best way to describe the structure of the two games in order to set proper expectations would be this: (This is not a spoiler, just some slightly expanded insight on the story structure)

I read that Shu Takumi once said in an interview that his original vision for the first Ace Attorney game would be that the events of 1-2 would be the final case in the game and that there'd be other cases between 1-1 and 1-2. He was told he couldn't do this though because it would be too slow of a start.

Great Ace Attorney 1 is what happens when he gets his way.
LiquidOshawott
03/11/2023
12:05 PM
#39
Well I ended up buying it for switch

trying to beat one of the games Im playing before giving it a shot
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