Nook's FF Topic [FF16 hype] [Series Ranking]

Already off to a bad start. (Big ff2 fan)

13 is a bad game with probably the worst character in the series

Oh dude, please sell me on it.

Basically if it has "Final Fantasy" in the name and I feel like talking about it.

One of my major issues with 13 is the sheer awfulness of the writing. I know I shouldn't be comparing video game scripts to books or movies, maybe, but it's just so elementarily bad. Insanely poor writing. So often, a three-minute scene won't have any lines longer than five words - like, how can you hope to make your world feel anything more than flimsy when no character possesses the ability to even spit out, like, a compound sentence? Everyone seems confused half the game, and when they aren't, we don't get insight into what they know.

Hope this includes Theatrhythm! Curtain Call was great on the 3DS, and Final Bar Line is even better, to the point that I'd be shocked if 16 surpassed it for best Final Fantasy of the year.

Fang is not a bad character and 13 is good. Its also not the worst game in the series either, like wtf.

2 and the MMOs are inexcusably bad and 3 isnt far behind.

I'm not really talking about feelings at all. I'm talking about the world, and why nothing felt like it was concrete in the slightest. Everything was so terse and simplistic, and the world felt like setpieces rather than lived-in, like so many other Final Fantasy titles.

Hard disagree on that. Gran Pulse is actually probably the weakest part of 13. It's just a big wide open basin with side areas that barely interconnect and that offers no joy of navigation. Like, you know what it reminds me of? Bad MMO zone design, because that is 100% what it is. It doesn't even have the grace of being just one bit of the sidequesting like the Calm Plains in FFX, it's where like 95% of the content that isn't story in the game is. It also has the two worst superbosses in a mainline nonsequel FF, too, easily (the super Adamantoises barely even count as superbosses and Vercingetorix is an exercise in boredom and noninteractivity).

agree to disagree, I guess. In all honesty one reason I think it was good is because I disliked the intense linearity of the stuff that came before it. So perhaps its only good in comparison.

Also FFXIII is still the only mainline FF I've only played once, and this was when it came out, so it is extremely hazy in my mind.

I'll at bare minimum take 13 over 2, 3, and 15 without a doubt.

Bottom four would be 15 < 2 < 3 < 13

The stupid AI character who is supposed to heal: Oh let me spam Cure 1000 times instead of removing the status effect.

2 and the MMOs are inexcusably bad

The problem with XIII's combat is the lack of freedom. You're limited by the Crystarium for like 80% of the game and even after that, every battle still revolves around you just switching between filling the Break Gauge, healing and doing damage, which gets boring fast in a 40+ hour game.

They try to mix it up by forcing you to play as other characters, but that just makes you relearn the same thing, just with different characters.

I get different tastes and whatnot, but this is such a far cry from what most people want out of a Final Fantasy game, which is the ability to customize your party and try different tactics in a variety of different situations.

I know this is more of a stand by you that MMO design is inherently predatory, but I'm curious if you'd enjoy FF14 as a single-player experience

But I will never know, because the game is simply not fun to me, since I'm not into the MMO aspect.

The problem is it has MMO gameplay so it's automatically trash to me.

Are we contending that FF1 is better than FF13? When's the last time y'all played FF1? Because that game's rough.