If given the option, which of these following illegal things would you legalize?

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Board 8 » If given the option, which of these following illegal things would you legalize?
I feel like I may have left off something big on that list.
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Please define computer misuse

Also robbery and burglary are bad but theft from corporations is morally justified
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Johnbobb posted...
Please define computer misuse
Hacking, doxing, data breach, targeting victims using viruses and malware, illegal streaming and downloads, along that sort of line.
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paulg235 posted...
Hacking, doxing, data breach, illegal streaming and downloads, along that sort of line.

These can be very different.
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red_sox_777 posted...
These can be very different.
When listing them as examples, I meant in a way where it could be considered illegal or at least situation-ally illegal.
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crazyisgood should absolutely be legal, what a snub
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paulg235 posted...
When listing them as examples, I meant in a way where it could be considered illegal or at least situation-ally illegal.

There are certain things that can be accessed through a Tor browser that should absolutely be kept illegal, is what he's saying.

As for me, if you'd included copyright infringement then I'd be down for that.
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paulg235 posted...
I feel like I may have left off something big on that list
Drugs
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Waluigi1 posted...
Drugs
I filed that under "Drug Abuse and Trafficking".
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People voting sexual offenses should be on a list. If they're not already.
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Trespassing without doing any of the others is an interesting idea. I know squatting probably falls under there but otherwise how's it going to go down? "Who the FUCK are you and what the fuck are you doing on my property?" "Aww, I'm Dave and I'm just chillin'."
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Johnbobb posted...
People voting sexual offenses should be on a list. If they're not already.

absolutely way too many votes for that. reveal yourselves and let everyone shame you for being a genuinely horrible person
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Johnbobb posted...
People voting sexual offenses should be on a list. If they're not already.
Drugs and Sex are two of the biggest categories that have received the most loosening of criminality in the past 100 years, as people become more progressive. If this poll was up 50 years ago, people would be making comments like you just made. Things that seemed not ok back then, are considered fine now as we understand more and more about people. There are obviously things that are terrible in those categories too, but most of these categories are very broad.

But murder is literally an option here and people voted for that....so.
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I noticed Sexual Offenses went from 0 to 6 votes within a half hour period, for what it's worth.
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Fraud is basically already legal so that.
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AdmittedFelon posted...
Drugs and Sex are two of the biggest categories that have received the most loosening of criminality in the past 100 years, as people become more progressive. If this poll was up 50 years ago, people would be making comments like you just made. Things that seemed not ok back then, are considered fine now as we understand more and more about people. There are obviously things that are terrible in those categories too, but most of these categories are very broad.

But murder is literally an option here and people voted for that....so.
This reply is sus.

I'd like for the voters explain their choice. Because my first thought was absolutely not in regards to sex work but to SA and the like.
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"3 people voted for murder" sure is a reason to vote for legal CSAM alright

because those were definitely the only two options on the list
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It would appear I wasn't very clear when I added "Sexual Offenses" in the poll, because in addition to standard sexual assault, it was meant to also cover the more extreme stuff (e.g. bestiality, necrophilia, pedophilia), BUT I guess most voters assumed it was only covering stuff like raping or harassing another adult.

Maybe I should've switched out Computer Misuse and had Child pornography/Pedophilia as a separate option.
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paulg235 posted...
BUT I guess most voters assumed it was only covering stuff like raping or harassing another adult.
yes it is Normal that people voted for that category assuming it merely meant that they could sexually assault and rape people. Allowing people to fuck corpses is OVER THE LINE
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yeahhhh rape is definitely on the extreme end of sexual offenses

I would assume voters would be more inclined to use legal prostitution as their reasoning
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Grimlyn posted...
"3 people voted for murder" sure is a reason to vote for legal CSAM alright

because those were definitely the only two options on the list

It might be relevant for some people. We are thankfully well past the eras of criminalizing interracial or same sex relationships, but there are still many people who are effected with things like abortion or gender transitioning, who are having a hard time dealing with laws and having their life style criminalized for various reasons. That could easily have been the first thing that popped into someone's head, especially with the "offenses" wording. I don't think someone voting something in a silly poll means they are approving of all the worst things in the category. We could easily just add the word "child" to the front of every poll option (child murder, child abuse, child theft, child trespassing, child drugs, etc) to make them all become the worst thing in the world, and therefore voting any of them means you support the worst possible outcome. On the contrary, you could say someone not voting sexual offenses means they don't support people having a choice over their body in terms of abortions and the like, which would be an outrageous claim.

All of the categories have irredeemable extremes. I few of the categories have value. That's my guess for how people might vote it anyway.
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I definitely took it as sexual assault and not prostitution

sex is mostly fine as long as its not coerced or involving trafficking
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AdmittedFelon posted...
It might be relevant for some people. We are thankfully well past the eras of criminalizing interracial or same sex relationships, but there are still many people who are effected with things like abortion or gender transitioning, who are having a hard time dealing with laws and having their life style criminalized for various reasons. That could easily have been the first thing that popped into someone's head, especially with the "offenses" wording. I don't think someone voting something in a silly poll means they are approving of all the worst things in the category. We could easily just add the word "child" to the front of every poll option (child murder, child abuse, child theft, child trespassing, child drugs, etc) to make them all become the worst thing in the world, and therefore voting any of them means you support the worst possible outcome. On the contrary, you could say someone not voting sexual offenses means they don't support people having a choice over their body in terms of abortions and the like, which would be an outrageous claim.

All of the categories have irredeemable extremes. I few of the categories have value. That's my guess for how people might vote it anyway.
there is a zero percent chance anybody read "sexual offenses" and assumed it meant abortion lmao
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Okay, extreme was definitely not the right word to describe it, perhaps selective? Specific fetish? Less common?

In any case, I used Sexual Offenses as a general area and should've clarified that selecting a poll option would mean all forms of that something in the poll option would hypothetically be legalized.
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paulg235 posted...
selecting a poll option would mean all forms of that something in the poll option would hypothetically be legalized.
this is definitely what I figured from the premise
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Voted drugs, all of which should already be legal anyway. Its a victimless crime and causes far too many BS prison sentences.

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The only situation I can really see for voting for sexual offenses here (besides just generally being a shit head) is if you're in a country where rape is already effectively legal, but e.g. being gay isn't. And even then I feel like it's kind of a monkey's paw scenario.
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AdmittedFelon posted...
We are thankfully well past the eras of criminalizing interracial or same sex relationships

please inform the Republicans
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Why would anyone vote for any of these

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Underleveled posted...
Trespassing without doing any of the others is an interesting idea. I know squatting probably falls under there but otherwise how's it going to go down? "Who the FUCK are you and what the fuck are you doing on my property?" "Aww, I'm Dave and I'm just chillin'."
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Drugs arent exactly a victimless crime when people have died from drugs theyve gotten, but if they were legalized and handled properly you could basically remove that risk too. Marijuana at least definitely doesnt deserve to be criminalized the way it has been in the US.

Some states are making changes to that at least, but its fucking insane people have been sent to prison longer for possessing a certain amount of marijuana than for murders, rapes and being a pedophile
I feel like you completely copped out on this poll with that last option. Leave that weak crap out next time and ask the hard question directly.

Couldve been a good topic.
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Topic has very "have you stopped beating your wife" energy. I was expecting something a little less extreme, like marijuana being illegal in some states yet perfectly legal less than an hour away.
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Yeah I came in expecting to see Marijuana (or a similar recreational drug option) and prostitution being the leading vote getters.

The poll was much more extreme.
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