Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion

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changmas
05/11/2024
10:53 AM
#251
When i was bookie in jojo mafia i had to predict the next days lynch correctly to get the positive thing (there werent any negative things, just nothing)
The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal
changmas
05/11/2024
10:55 AM
#252
Bookie to me implies not full RNG but some RNG involved with the bets youre placing.

like its not to the level of a schizo but you dont have full control either
The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal
TotallyNotMI
05/11/2024
11:03 AM
#253
If you have nothing good that has ever happened and have only been punished I don't why you won't full claim

Or even favor claim
We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend.
htaeD
05/11/2024
11:06 AM
#254
So to sum up
You have to gamble each night
You dont know if its gonna be bad or good.
But if its bad you can choose what the bad thing is? And so far its only been novote or scanscum?
Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora
Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA
TotallyNotMI
05/11/2024
11:07 AM
#255
Town feels so weak that I'm really struggling with this half claim of RNG role that has only punished town
We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend.
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PunishedBen
05/11/2024
11:19 AM
#257
UltimaterializerX posted...
I dont see the scum equity in ctess behavior when I have an innocent scan on him. As scum or 3P, he just claims some innocent safelist whatever. Not hey guys Im gonna put myself out there in the dumbest way possible.

I think hes town. And if we got unlucky because of the green check, shit happens.
Well how long ago did ctes commit to having a power/non vanilla role? Because if it was after your innocent scan then this is true. But if it was before then it means he had to claim something, and it also had to explain why he couldn't vote day 2 and beyond...
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/
htaeD
05/11/2024
11:21 AM
#258
UltimaterializerX posted...
I dont see the scum equity in ctess behavior when I have an innocent scan on him. As scum or 3P, he just claims some innocent safelist whatever. Not hey guys Im gonna put myself out there in the dumbest way possible.

I think hes town. And if we got unlucky because of the green check, shit happens.

Scum advocacting here
The scum equity is he has to explain why his scumrole works that way and why his vote suddenly came back when he wants to use it. I like the idea that he would scan innocent when he locks his own vote.
Granted he could still have waited to unlock his vote if he wanted to look good. Though that would make it even weirder the longer he waited, if he wanted to claim such a role.
Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora
Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA
TotallyNotMI
05/11/2024
11:22 AM
#259
Crazy theory:

Ulti is claiming Lopen's role
Ulti is scum votestealer
Scum has been blocking scum Godfather ctes vote to make him look more town
Ulti got blocked so ctes can vote today
"I'm totally vote blocking myself guys" to cover for Ulti
We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend.
TotallyNotMI
05/11/2024
11:24 AM
#260
And then the reason he's only half claiming and not flavor claiming is because they weren't planning this and don't have a claim planned for this
We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend.
changmas
05/11/2024
11:47 AM
#261
we demand flavor!
The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal
htaeD
05/11/2024
12:04 PM
#262
TotallyNotMI posted...
And then the reason he's only half claiming and not flavor claiming is because they weren't planning this and don't have a claim planned for this

Ctes sure had plenty of time for his teammates to prepare a claim tho
Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora
Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA
Leafeon13N
05/11/2024
12:12 PM
#263
Okay I'm definitely confused.

Because something is missing with ctes and has not been claimed.
TotallyNotMI
05/11/2024
12:15 PM
#264
htaeD posted...
Ctes sure had plenty of time for his teammates to prepare a claim tho
Not if they weren't expecting a block today and they don't have flavor experts!
We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend.
Leafeon13N
05/11/2024
12:17 PM
#265
Ctes what exactly did your role do last night and what were the possibilities?
Kirby321
05/11/2024
12:19 PM
#266
Ctes, no excuses. Please claim in full today if you want this day to be even remotely productive.
Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure
Soo... how was your day?
Enchantress
05/11/2024
12:19 PM
#267
Votals
[2] Red - MI, Ulti
[2] Death - Chang, Kirby
[0] MI - (Ulti)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day ends Sunday, May 12th at 6 PM EST.
Lea
Leafeon13N
05/11/2024
12:22 PM
#268
Kirby321 posted...
Ctes, no excuses. Please claim in full today if you want this day to be even remotely productive.
Going to need you to trust me for a moment.

I need him to talk just about last night. I need an organic conversation leave the macro stuff alone for a bit.
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Leafeon13N
05/11/2024
12:27 PM
#270
To put it bluntly, i need specific info out of ctes and his time is limited. So when hes here for the love of everything dont distract him so that i can get out the info we need.
Leafeon13N
05/11/2024
12:36 PM
#271
Also day is basically defaulted to stagnant til ctes gets here. So dont go crazy.
Leafeon13N
05/11/2024
12:48 PM
#272
And i hope he actually shows up at some point.

Going to a baseball game for fun as a fan tomorrow and I'd like to be able to enjoy myself instead of obsessively playing mafia from my seat.
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Leafeon13N
05/11/2024
01:04 PM
#274
We aren't killing anyone out of spite.
ctesjbuvf
05/11/2024
01:25 PM
#275
changmas posted...
Bookie to me implies not full RNG but some RNG involved with the bets youre placing.

like its not to the level of a schizo but you dont have full control either

This is correct.

When my flip is eventually on the table you will fully understand the troubles of why I am not full claiming. I get the frustration from me not doing it fully but I got a role where it's inconvenient.

TotallyNotMI posted...
If you have nothing good that has ever happened and have only been punished I don't why you won't full claim

Or even favor claim

Good can still happen.

htaeD posted...
So to sum up
You have to gamble each night
You dont know if its gonna be bad or good.
But if its bad you can choose what the bad thing is? And so far its only been novote or scanscum?

I bet something specific so I know what the negative effect if I lose because I know what I bet.
Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc , the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest.
ctesjbuvf
05/11/2024
01:28 PM
#276
Let's chat then, red
Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc , the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest.
TotallyNotMI
05/11/2024
01:28 PM
#277
What have your bets been
We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend.
Forceful_Dragon
05/11/2024
01:41 PM
#278
Jesus I slept so much last night, I must have needed it.

Ctes, it's sounding like all your bets or guesses have failed, but even knowing WHAT your were betting on tells us something by virtue of learning what did NOT happen.

And yes, give the damn flavor. I have a theory that sprang to mind, but I want to give you a chance before I say it
~C~ FD
http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png
changmas
05/11/2024
01:43 PM
#279
@Leafeon13N @red13n

give flavor then red take the floor
The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal
Leafeon13N
05/11/2024
01:59 PM
#280
ctesjbuvf posted...
Let's chat then, red
How was your netative effect last night a negative?
Leafeon13N
05/11/2024
02:01 PM
#281
Also if I'm understanding you pick one good thing one bad thing and then one of those hsppens?

Or am i missing sonething.
ctesjbuvf
05/11/2024
02:03 PM
#282
I think some of you need to ask yourself why you want more information. It's a weird role. You aren't gonna solve better with it, if just ruins the role. I feel like I am a distraction for town today because they can't handle their curiousity and it's annoying.

Leafeon13N posted...
How was your negative effect last night a negative?

I bet and lost my reputation. If I had been scanned last night I would have scanned guilty and I would have been seen visiting any night kill.
Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc , the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest.
ctesjbuvf
05/11/2024
02:05 PM
#283
Leafeon13N posted...
Also if I'm understanding you pick one good thing one bad thing and then one of those hsppens?

Or am i missing sonething.

No I choose a thing to bet. Last night my reputation. Then I know what I gain if I win and know what I lose if I lose in advance. I am then told the result right before day begins.
Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc , the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest.
Leafeon13N
05/11/2024
02:05 PM
#284
Thats it? Just scan guilty?
Forceful_Dragon
05/11/2024
02:06 PM
#285
What are the things you MIGHT have gained then?

We're trying to solve a puzzle and you're holding some of the pieces hostage
~C~ FD
http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png
ctesjbuvf
05/11/2024
02:07 PM
#286
Well guilty and also seen visiting any night kill. So last night I would have been seen visiting MZero.
Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc , the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest.
TotallyNotMI
05/11/2024
02:07 PM
#287
You're being asked because your refusal to give anything even flavor, just makes you seem like you don't have a claim prepared imo
We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend.
ctesjbuvf
05/11/2024
02:09 PM
#288
Yes I have stalled making my fakeclaim for what 72 hours and then somehow forgot to prepare it at all. You sure got me there.
Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc , the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest.
Leafeon13N
05/11/2024
02:10 PM
#289
Okay I have to add my puzzle piece because something is missing.

I received FDs pineapple.
ctesjbuvf
05/11/2024
02:10 PM
#290
There is no puzzle to be solve with this info here though. There was the missing vote thing, which I now revealed. It is not beneficial to you, other than some sort of personal curiosity and/or satisfaction.
Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc , the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest.
ctesjbuvf
05/11/2024
02:11 PM
#291
Leafeon13N posted...
Okay I have to add my puzzle piece because something is missing.

I received FDs pineapple.

I believe I already told I didn't get it.

I cannot explain that one.
Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc , the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest.
TotallyNotMI
05/11/2024
02:13 PM
#292
ctesjbuvf posted...
Yes I have stalled making my fakeclaim for what 72 hours and then somehow forgot to prepare it at all. You sure got me there.
Again, if Ulti getting blocked made you have to pivot your fake claim to say you are losing your own vote, you might not be able to use what you prepared.
We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend.
Forceful_Dragon
05/11/2024
02:14 PM
#293
Leafeon13N posted...
Okay I have to add my puzzle piece because something is missing.

I received FDs pineapple.

Well that explains the sudden interest in asking me about my confirmation. I definitely targeted Ctes last night.
~C~ FD
http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png
ctesjbuvf
05/11/2024
02:14 PM
#294
Either FD wasn't truthful or it's something else, most likely a scum ability hoping to direct the vote loss maybe.
Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc , the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest.
Leafeon13N
05/11/2024
02:14 PM
#295
Bussing you to me doesn't make contextual sense from a different party scum pov.

Town has no other claimed redirect.
ctesjbuvf
05/11/2024
02:15 PM
#296
I did ask I think day 1 if my ability could be taunted but since I'm not seen moving I was told no, so I don't think the vote loss or the reputation could be redirected either.
Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc , the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest.
TotallyNotMI
05/11/2024
02:16 PM
#297
FD you just get a successful message? It doesn't say who you targeted?
We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend.
ctesjbuvf
05/11/2024
02:17 PM
#298
I guess in this case it could also be FD and red targeted and not me at all.
Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc , the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest.
Leafeon13N
05/11/2024
02:18 PM
#299
I dont understand the logic to cause redirect from you to me.
ctesjbuvf
05/11/2024
02:19 PM
#300
TotallyNotMI posted...
Again, if Ulti getting blocked made you have to pivot your fake claim to say you are losing your own vote, you might not be able to use what you prepared.

So what your theory is that Ulti has been stealing my vote every day until now?
Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc , the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest.
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