Friends Mafia Topic 2 - The One With the 30th Anniversary

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Can you believe it's been 30 years since the show started? And 20 since it ended. Time sure flies, it doesn't feel like it has been over for that long. That also means Ben would be 29, the triplets would be 26, Emma would be 22, while Jack and Erika would be 20. Crazy imo.

Refer to Topic 1 for all rules and general information.

Players:
1. Ben
2. Blade
3. Chang
4. Corrik
5. Death
6. Dumey
7. Foolmo
8. IGCD
9. MZero
10. Peaf
11. SBell
12. Sultan
13. Wallz

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends at 6PM ET Wednesday, approximately 24 hours from now.
Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc , the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest.
htaeD posted...
The sooner foolmo plays scum the better.
Until then I cant really tell if he is being suspicious. I do feel he should know by now that NL is never gonna work.

Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora
Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA
Yeah that's the point. Fool is solidly null. It's pretty clear his actions so far have been based on personal policy. Voting him for it is easy.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Honestly I also would not be surprised if Foolmo got a role that benefits from a NL
Tho it'd be a big coincidence admittedly.

Tho I believe Dumey has more reasons to vote Foolmo than the NL policy.
Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora
Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA
Meow1000 posted...

Because the very basis of your vote is flawed and cheap.

It's not cheap. I think avoiding giving away any personal connections to other players is inherently scummy, as scum is way more cognizant of who they do or do not buddy up with than town generally is.

Just the fact that Foolmo responded amicably and showed willingness to work with me despite butting heads a little earlier is a valuable result of my vote.

Either Blade is ignorant of how votes work in Mafia, he's attacking me because he's bored, or he's running defense for Foolmo.
my links broke. :(
htaeD posted...
Honestly I also would not be surprised if Foolmo got a role that benefits from a NL
Tho it'd be a big coincidence admittedly.

Tho I believe Dumey has more reasons to vote Foolmo than the NL policy.
We have a few players who have contributed absolutely nothing to the game. The NL policy just makes him the easiest target.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
It's just as easy to criticize any single vote, so either shit or get off the pot
~Peaf~
htaeD posted...
The sooner foolmo plays scum the better.
Death, can you please elaborate what this means?
~Peaf~
Meow1000 posted...
We have a few players who have contributed absolutely nothing to the game. The NL policy just makes him the easiest target.

This is such a tone deaf argument though. If we were in a perfect world where all players have the same expectations, then yes other players have done less than Foolmo. But these players also have histories and reputations that go along with them. So does Foolmo! I'm not voting Foolmo for advocating for NL. I'm voting him for actively refusing other contributions. Active being the key word as to why I'm inscribing intent.

Thus whataboutism to point at players like IGCD is, ironically, cheap.
my links broke. :(
htaeD posted...
Honestly I also would not be surprised if Foolmo got a role that benefits from a NL
Tho it'd be a big coincidence admittedly.

Tho I believe Dumey has more reasons to vote Foolmo than the NL policy.
A role that gains a power specifically on NL when NL never happens going to one of the only people who ever pushes NL

"lol"

Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
EDumey posted...
This is such a tone deaf argument though. If we were in a perfect world where all players have the same expectations, then yes other players have done less than Foolmo. But these players also have histories and reputations that go along with them. So does Foolmo! I'm not voting Foolmo for advocating for NL. I'm voting him for actively refusing other contributions. Active being the key word as to why I'm inscribing intent.

Thus whataboutism to point at players like IGCD is, ironically, cheap.
Not really. IGCD for example is using an inherently scummier vehicle to do nothing than Fool is. Fool has been open from the start that he isn't doing jack.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
PeaceFrog posted...
Death, can you please elaborate what this means?

It means that if I see a scum foolmo flip, I will finally have something to compare his townplay to.

Of course if I am forgetting a recent scum foolmo game , then egg on my face.
Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora
Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA
Really it comes off as a vote on the obvious easiest target in the entire game rather than a vote that's really trying to push the envelope.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Meow1000 posted...
A role that gains a power specifically on NL when NL never happens going to one of the only people who ever pushes NL

"lol"

Lol indeed
Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora
Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA
Meow1000 posted...
Really it comes off as a vote on the obvious easiest target in the entire game rather than a vote that's really trying to push the envelope.

Easier than Corrik or IGCD?
Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora
Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA
htaeD posted...
It means that if I see a scum foolmo flip, I will finally have something to compare his townplay to.

Of course if I am forgetting a recent scum foolmo game , then egg on my face.
The only game I remember from him offhand was my SK game.

I will say he didn't feel this standoffish, but that game had a lot more happening on day 1. Lopen alone filled like a topic and a half.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
God this game could use a Lopen
Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora
Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA
htaeD posted...
Easier than Corrik or IGCD?
Fool's mindset today is something that's inherently considered anti-town and he has been completely unabashed in sharing it.

If Fool has 1/3 the posts in this game that he does that vote probably never happens regardless of Dumey's alignment.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
htaeD posted...
It means that if I see a scum foolmo flip, I will finally have something to compare his townplay to.

Of course if I am forgetting a recent scum foolmo game , then egg on my face.
Oh i see. You're saying in a total b8 mafia sense, not in a this game sense. Thanks, i was super confused
~Peaf~
Meow1000 posted...

Not really. IGCD for example is using an inherently scummier vehicle to do nothing than Fool is. Fool has been open from the start that he isn't doing jack.

In a vacuum where all players are equal, sure! But IGCD plays this way even as town. Because he has a job that doesn't let him contribute during work and a restrictive schedule. Ignoring conditions like these to compare two players with wildly different situations is silly. Foolmo has been present. IGCD hasn't. Vote for inactivity if you want to, but that's not how I choose to use my vote on deadline day when town has no direction or momentum and I want to push active players to push the game forward.
my links broke. :(
htaeD posted...
God this game could use a Lopen

Then maybe players like Blade shouldn't be undermining votes and contributing to the game being in a standstill.
my links broke. :(
In IGCDs case I would almost ask him if he could use a replace. He did leave a vote and never explained why as far as I can see.
Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora
Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA
EDumey posted...
In a vacuum where all players are equal, sure! But IGCD plays this way even as town. Because he has a job that doesn't let him contribute during work and a restrictive schedule. Ignoring conditions like these to compare two players with wildly different situations is silly. Foolmo has been present. IGCD hasn't. Vote for inactivity if you want to, but that's not how I choose to use my vote on deadline day when town has no direction or momentum and I want to push active players to push the game forward.
We have no direction or momentum because half the players in the game have done little to nothing.

Pushing the one player of the pile who's already said he doesn't care and wants to NL just because he's said he doesn't care and wants to NL isn't really moving the needle.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Meow1000 posted...
A role that gains a power specifically on NL when NL never happens going to one of the only people who ever pushes NL

"lol"
Thanks for saving me a post
_foolmo_
he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance
Meow1000 posted...
Really it comes off as a vote on the obvious easiest target in the entire game rather than a vote that's really trying to push the envelope.

The result of my vote literally had Foolmo respond that he would give some reads in Topic 2. Maybe he would have done that on his own regardless, but I literally stated my purpose of the vote was to pressure for reads, and now we're getting reads (and from more than just Foolmo!). Seems like it was a valuable vote afterall, huh?
my links broke. :(
EDumey posted...
Then maybe players like Blade shouldn't be undermining votes and contributing to the game being in a standstill.
Blade is a stubborn person. Blade wants everything to go blades way. It probably makes Blade town in most cases,

However I still don't like that they are being mostly bark with no bite. Usually Blade is more aggressive.

It's interesting that blade is more so providing commentary rather than applying pressure anywhere.

YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN
Hello Here is a pineapple
Meow1000 posted...
I'm bored and poking people because almost nothing has actually happened so far.

We had more content in the first hour or two in the last game than we have so far today.

I think it's because this game was marketed as not serious and then seemingly turned into a serious game. I certainly don't want to be alive on day 9 again.
What gave you the impression of it turning serious? The game doesn't have enough players to go that long again.
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Meow1000 posted...
We have no direction or momentum because half the players in the game have done little to nothing.

Pushing the one player of the pile who's already said he doesn't care and wants to NL just because he's said he doesn't care and wants to NL isn't really moving the needle.

Where do you want your needle to be then Blade?
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Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA
Dumey is currently in a state of "Fuck, i'm going to get lynched if i dont start something on someone"

Foolmo seems like the wrong choice.
(\____/)
( SBell )
The One Where There Are Also Votals In Topic 2:
[2]Dumey - IGCD, SBell, (Ben)
[1]No Lynch - Foolmo
[1]Sultan - Peaf
[1]Foolmo - Dumey
[0]Wallz - (Sultan)

Day ends in a bit more than 8 hours from now.
Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc , the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest.
htaeD posted...
In IGCDs case I would almost ask him if he could use a replace. He did leave a vote and never explained why as far as I can see.

I think he voted me because he thought I was sussing his Miller claim without voting for him, even though I actually ended up at the opposite conclusion that he was likely legit.

He most recently said he didn't really remember (lol) but it had something to do with teeth. (I'm interpreting this as my sus on his miller claim had no teeth?) IIRC he voted long before I woke up and started talking with SBell so no idea if he read any of that or saw where I ended up on his claim.
my links broke. :(
undefined posted... Edumey:
Sultan, I think Wallz first post WAS a joke. It was a Friends reference.

Obellisk: was about to say this same thing, I just had to go back and reread page 1 to confirm I wasn't missing anything.

Sultan your vote and reason behind has no teeth.
(\____/)
( SBell )
Anyhow it's Synagogue time

##Vote: Peaf

Feels like he's holding back compared to last game and that he doesn't really care who gets lynched.

Also I feel like town Peaf votes me by now with how many times he's dropped shade on me.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Oh so thats what the teeth were about.
Well I know IGCD is always a bad focus for day1, but I would still like to hear from him.
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Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA
Obellisk posted...
Dumey is currently in a state of "Fuck, i'm going to get lynched if i dont start something on someone"

Foolmo seems like the wrong choice.

Sbell pls. I am active in every game I play and try to be a leader when I can. Forgive me for trying to push in literally any direction when I woke up this morning and the only new posts were Wallz giving reads, and people complaining about lack of votes.
my links broke. :(
Oh and we know for a fact that Town Peaf doesn't even hesitate to jump on me based on recent games.

He's not adverse to going after the harder targets. I just see him as content with the current half assed state of the game.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Meow1000 posted...
Anyhow it's Synagogue time

##Vote: Peaf

Feels like he's holding back compared to last game and that he doesn't really care who gets lynched.

Also I feel like town Peaf votes me by now with how many times he's dropped shade on me.
Tell me in fewer words that you haven't read the game, buddy.
~Peaf~
But good job, you finally took that big shit that has been sitting in you for more than a day. Glad you got it out of your system.
~Peaf~
EDumey posted...
Sbell pls. I am active in every game I play and try to be a leader when I can. Forgive me for trying to push in literally any direction when I woke up this morning and the only new posts were Wallz giving reads, and people complaining about lack of votes.

i just think that foolmo was the wrong choice, thats all.

do you truly think his No Lynch stance on Day 1 is coming from him being scum?
(\____/)
( SBell )
I'd feel better about that needle drop if it was not timed right as Blade has to go.
Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora
Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA
Sbell I can already hear how Dumey is gonna react to that question, so let me first ask you a counterquestion.

do you think his No Lynch stance on Day 1 is coming from him being town?
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Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA
Obellisk posted...
i just think that foolmo was the wrong choice, thats all.

do you truly think his No Lynch stance on Day 1 is coming from him being scum?

EDumey posted...
This is such a tone deaf argument though. If we were in a perfect world where all players have the same expectations, then yes other players have done less than Foolmo. But these players also have histories and reputations that go along with them. So does Foolmo! I'm not voting Foolmo for advocating for NL. I'm voting him for actively refusing other contributions. Active being the key word as to why I'm inscribing intent.

Thus whataboutism to point at players like IGCD is, ironically, cheap.

my links broke. :(
Meow1000 posted...
Anyhow it's Synagogue time


*looks at calendar*

Well shit, its Shavuot... Chag Sameach, friend.
(\____/)
( SBell )
htaeD posted...
I'd feel better about that needle drop if it was not timed right as Blade has to go.

Right!? Complaining about the inefficiency of my vote, then dropping a vote when you can't stick around to actually push for pressure or info.
my links broke. :(
htaeD posted...
do you think his No Lynch stance on Day 1 is coming from him being town?

I think its a null tell. I wouldn't say it speaks for his alignment either way.
(\____/)
( SBell )
Obellisk posted...
*looks at calendar*

Well shit, its Shavuot... Chag Sameach, friend.
Yeah I'm suddenly feeling a little self conscious about being at work. That's the reform movement for ya i guess
~Peaf~
EDumey posted...
I'm not voting Foolmo for advocating for NL. I'm voting him for actively refusing other contributions. Active being the key word as to why I'm inscribing intent.


well fuck, this guy thought of everything....
(\____/)
( SBell )
PeaceFrog posted...
Yeah I'm suddenly feeling a little self conscious about being at work. That's the reform movement for ya i guess

Now that i'm the generation that is supposed to house the family gatherings there are a lot more forgotten holidays.
(\____/)
( SBell )
htaeD posted...
Sbell I can already hear how Dumey is gonna react to that question, so let me first ask you a counterquestion.

do you think his No Lynch stance on Day 1 is coming from him being town?

Now that SBell has responded, I do think this is an irrelevant question. Like Blade and SBell said, the NL thing is a total null tell.

Remember that the thing being questioned is him being present in topics, admitting to reading but not posting for sake of clutter, and not having basically any player reads out there other than the original "be wary of SBell pushing for claims" thing. Active + no reads to analyze = scum play that can't be linked to other players in the game.
my links broke. :(
Thats right, i forgot that Foolmo walked in and was like "Sbell is pushing claims and he's spineless town for it"

What was that?
(\____/)
( SBell )
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