Silksong Topic 2 - It was the best of sequels, it was the worst of sequels

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Dels
09/21/2025
01:58 PM
#401
yeah I dunno, to me getting to 100% is, like, how I make sure "I've seen everything there is to see" so it was weird that i hit it and then beat the final boss but then kept reading about things i missed so i opened the game to go do them including multiple boss fights!
colliding
09/21/2025
02:32 PM
#402
Okay, the extra fight with Shakra is impossible (this is a bigger spoiler than most boss names)

I've decided to give up on this one
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kevwaffles
09/21/2025
02:34 PM
#403
A lot of things indirectly count because they block something that does. Like Memory Lockets don't count, but you need apparently 18/20 for Sylphsong .
"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
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Dels
09/21/2025
02:43 PM
#404
kevwaffles posted...
A lot of things indirectly count because they block something that does. Like Memory Lockets don't count, but you need apparently 18/20 for Sylphsong .

I honestly had no idea how to advance her. I got the first 2 omni-slots just naturally, but I never used any memory lockets I didn't have to, because I basically only did full wanderer's. i did use reaper for a bit so i had that done too but i never touched the others mostly. And her lines just said like "come back to me when you've unlocked more power" which was vague af to me so I had to look up how to do it in the end and ofc I had the lockets but I was never upgrading beast or architect so yeah
VintageGin
09/21/2025
03:26 PM
#405
Alright I thought the calls for it were a little harsh at first, but now that I'm doing Bilewater I must now support eradicating Australia
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htaeD
09/21/2025
04:18 PM
#406
Okay permit me to swear but

fuck that gauntlet with the exploding guys

fuck that to the ends of the earth
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VintageGin
09/21/2025
04:19 PM
#407
What the actual fuck the boss is AFTER THE GAUNTLET?!
Gin
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VintageGin
09/21/2025
04:36 PM
#408
Alright two questions. I have two bosses that I could fight right now (Lugoli and Groal the Great) , but it's very annoying to fight them right now, partly due to the long runbacks and partly due to the maggot water .

1. Is there a way to negate the effects of the maggot water and Lugoli's attack ? I've heard there's an equipment for this but haven't found it.

2. Is it possible to fix the bench in Sinner's Road that's closest to Lugoli?
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MacArrowny
09/21/2025
04:59 PM
#409
VintageGin posted...
1. Is there a way to negate the effects of the maggot water and Lugoli's attack? I've heard there's an equipment for this but haven't found it.
Yeah
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DeepsPraw
09/21/2025
05:02 PM
#410
Yes on both counts.
  1. It's in an area you might not have been to yet. Have you done the Songclave Wishwall quest for the lost shopkeeper? That one points you towards it
  2. Look for a breakable wall
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VintageGin
09/21/2025
05:10 PM
#411
DeepsPraw posted...
Yes on both counts.
1. It's in an area you might not have been to yet. Have you done the Songclave Wishwall quest for the lost shopkeeper? That one points you towards it

The one where you find the shopkeeper and they return to Songclave? Yeah, but it was quite some time ago.

2. Look for a breakable wall

Well shit, I've been looking all over for one, but I guess I didn't look in the right places.

Gin
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Dels
09/21/2025
05:14 PM
#412
just to make sure the answer wasn't misleading: you're not fixing the bench so don't think that means the breakable wall is near the bench
MacArrowny
09/21/2025
05:20 PM
#413
VintageGin posted...
The one where you find the shopkeeper and they return to Songclave?
No
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Dels
09/21/2025
05:23 PM
#414
Yes? "That one points you towards it"
MacArrowny
09/21/2025
07:11 PM
#415
Well, there are a couple quests like that. Not sure which one's been done.
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Dels
09/21/2025
07:19 PM
#416
Oh. Does it happen more than once? I forgot.
VintageGin
09/21/2025
08:07 PM
#417
To be clear, the quests I've done for Songclave that I remember (paraphrased):

Find the lost mechant
Donate rosaries
Get fine pins
Get cloaks
Donate more rosaries
Rescue Sherma from Whiteward
Gin
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Kotetsu534
09/21/2025
08:22 PM
#418
I'm pretty sure you haven't done it because it's one of the later Songclave quests. It'll probably show up soon.

On the Sinner's Road bench I'd describe the breakable wall as quite close to it .
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VintageGin
09/21/2025
08:27 PM
#419
Damn it, I was sure I'd tried hitting that wall!

Managed to fix it and then beat Lugoli first try after fixing it...which kinda negated the entire reason I was trying to fix it.
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VintageGin
09/21/2025
08:41 PM
#420
Man, I just checked the board at Songclave and there it is. What triggered that?!
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MacArrowny
09/21/2025
08:45 PM
#421
Quests keep appearing the more progress you make in the game. Not sure if there's anything specific that makes them appear.

Some quests are locked behind completing others though, so you might want to do them quickly.
All the stars in the sky are waiting for you.
Dels
09/21/2025
08:55 PM
#422
Kotetsu534 posted...


On the Sinner's Road bench I'd describe the breakable wall as quite close to it .

oh i'm just completely inaccurate today. i thought it was asking about something else.
kevwaffles
09/21/2025
09:20 PM
#423
I definitely think Savage Beastfly is one of those bosses, like Watcher Knights in HK, is a boss that many will look back and kind of wonder why it gave them so much trouble. First one at least.
"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3
VintageGin
09/21/2025
09:45 PM
#424
MacArrowny posted...
Quests keep appearing the more progress you make in the game. Not sure if there's anything specific that makes them appear.

Some quests are locked behind completing others though, so you might want to do them quickly.

Yeah, I'm just confounded because I periodically kept checking the board and it was empty for a long time. I think either getting the Bilewater map or beating Lugoli must have triggered it to appear since I don't think I've done all that much since I last checked.

Anyway, they put in a third area with maggot water? Somehow every new area is a new "oh god no"
Gin
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pyresword
09/21/2025
09:53 PM
#425
At least Bilewater has the coolest theme music.

Finally got (end of act 2) the quest I need to move on to act 3. This kind of felt a bit arbitrary. I'm pretty sure what the game was waiting for was the flea caravan moving again, but the progression here just doesn't make a lot of sense overall. Just kind of seems like "start doing random stuff until eventually talking to the character who's been there the whole time gives new dialogue".

Also the S econd Sentinel fight was neat. Is that optional? Seems like I could very easily have just never triggered this one.
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colliding
09/21/2025
10:12 PM
#426
70 hours in and I'm just now moving on to act 3. what a game
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_Blur_
09/21/2025
10:23 PM
#427
colliding posted...
70 hours in and I'm just now moving on to act 3. what a game
I'm at 55 and feeling the same. Truly the Elden Ring of Metroidvanias.

Currently trying to beat the Act 2 boss cursed for the secret ending. I remember beating this boss in 3 tries and thought it was quite easy - now I know why! Think I'm getting extremely close though. Was probably a few hits away my last death.
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_Blur_
09/21/2025
10:25 PM
#428
pyresword posted...
At least Bilewater has the coolest theme music.

Choral Chambers would like a word you

Also Belhart
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colliding
09/21/2025
10:28 PM
#429
It's Cogwork Core
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kevwaffles
09/21/2025
10:35 PM
#430
So did they actually nerf Sister Splinter herself, or did they just make the enemies that were her adds do 1 damage?
"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3
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pyresword
09/21/2025
11:57 PM
#432
Wild that I can find a Youtube video "Ranking EVERY Silksong Act 2 Boss", and then discover that there's still 3 bosses I haven't done, and also there's 3 bosses I have done that the Youtuber apparently missed because they are not in the video. How much stuff is in this game? Are there any bosses that neither me nor the Youtuber found?
I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways.
oneofcircles
09/22/2025
12:06 AM
#433
pyresword posted...
At least Bilewater has the coolest theme music.

Finally got (end of act 2) the quest I need to move on to act 3. This kind of felt a bit arbitrary. I'm pretty sure what the game was waiting for was the flea caravan moving again, but the progression here just doesn't make a lot of sense overall. Just kind of seems like "start doing random stuff until eventually talking to the character who's been there the whole time gives new dialogue".


yeah, its incredibly arbitrary. Its getting the fleas to the final location, certain specific quests like the Shakra one and getting the house in Bellheart, and doing a certain amount of other quests, which have invisible point values assigned to them, none of which the game tells you about.

zawa--- zawa---
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Xiahou_Shake
09/22/2025
01:35 AM
#434
End of Act 2 spoiler discussion

Fleas make sense as a requirement seeing as their final location is the only place they'd be safe. The Caretaker regularly remarks on how helpful Hornet is being as you complete more and more quests, and the entire point of Act 3 being an option is that Hornet has decided to place value in Pharloom over her own Weaver instincts so it makes a good amount of sense looking back at it even if it's not immediately clear there's something for you to do in the moment. If you need to give someone a hint on how to get to Act 3 you can just tell them to do their Wishes and find Fleas and that'll definitely get them there.
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htaeD
09/22/2025
05:19 AM
#435
LOl at this Flea questline guide that just gives up after getting 5 fleas and instead tells you how to get the guy that marks flea locations on your map
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htaeD
09/22/2025
11:27 AM
#436
Also nothing can convince me doublejump is worth that much pain

I was having fun until mt fay
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MacArrowny
09/22/2025
12:09 PM
#437
Mount Fay is fun. Definitely not one of the top 20 hardest parts of the game, and maybe only the third hardest platforming challenge.
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htaeD
09/22/2025
12:25 PM
#438
I just hate the timer.
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VintageGin
09/22/2025
12:33 PM
#439
I think Mt Fay would have been a little less stressful if there was an actual timer/meter that showed how much time you had left, but I agree that it wasn't that bad.

I was relieved that the creature at the top was not a boss fight.
Gin
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pyresword
09/22/2025
12:51 PM
#440
I actually liked Mount Fay when I'm usually pretty down on platforming sections. (Path of Pain was by far my least favorite part of the original game, for example.)

Give me low to medium difficulty platforming on a timer over hard platforming any day
I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways.
Kenri
09/22/2025
01:04 PM
#441
The hardest part of Mt Fay is just realizing you're supposed to do it without an upgrade first . Usually hell runs are better signposted than that because they go against metroidvania instincts.
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colliding
09/22/2025
01:08 PM
#442
Mt. Fay is fine. I will say I dislike the grapple in general. I don't think it feels good. The fact that it also uses silk is kind of BS, since there's not always weak enemies or spools to replenish.
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VintageGin
09/22/2025
01:17 PM
#443
colliding posted...
Mt. Fay is fine. I will say I dislike the grapple in general. I don't think it feels good. The fact that it also uses silk is kind of BS, since there's not always weak enemies or spools to replenish.

I mean, while it sucks since it prevents you for using it for healing, your silk does auto-replenish from 0 up to the number of silk hearts you have. So you can't run out of silk for grappling.
Gin
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kevwaffles
09/22/2025
01:22 PM
#444
colliding posted...
Mt. Fay is fine. I will say I dislike the grapple in general. I don't think it feels good. The fact that it also uses silk is kind of BS, since there's not always weak enemies or spools to replenish.

Using Silk is how they deter you from infinite use in combat. In practice a second Silk Heart basically nullifies that problem for platforming.

Although successful hits replenish anyway, so I dunno.
"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3
colliding
09/22/2025
01:39 PM
#445
Yeah, it's mainly the inability to heal which is the problem I have. Most of the time they provide some fodder or a spool, but I know there were a few rooms where using the grapple completely removed my ability to heal, so what would have been 10 tries basically became 5 tries.

But that's less important to me than the fact that there's something off with it in terms of how it feels. Like sometimes it really didn't come out when I pressed it. I also dislike how it sends you airborne when you hit an enemy without you pressing a button. I ALSO don't like how it's a toggle when you're hooked into a ring and not a hold. I dunno, it still hasn't felt good to me, having gone through all of Act 2 now
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htaeD
09/22/2025
01:42 PM
#446
I wish the grapple didnt cost silk, particularly for each second of freezing that it costs me to wait for a refill
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kevwaffles
09/22/2025
02:39 PM
#447
Yeah I highly recommend having at least a second Silk Heart (the refills you get at empty) before doing Mt Faye. I had the second incidentally and I won't try it again without at least that.
"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3
htaeD
09/22/2025
03:05 PM
#448
Too bad its hidden behind an absolute hitbox of a boss

Every time I stun him, he kills me
edit: Lol, just when I think I understand phase1 he randomly changes the pattern of his spit attack
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MacArrowny
09/22/2025
03:08 PM
#449
Yeah the grapple using silk sucks. I used it way less than I would've otherwise because of that.
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VintageGin
09/22/2025
03:11 PM
#450
kevwaffles posted...
Yeah I highly recommend having at least a second Silk Heart (the refills you get at empty) before doing Mt Faye. I had the second incidentally and I won't try it again without at least that.

I haven't really tried it out, but I assume the charm that makes you regenerate silk faster could also work instead.
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