Politics Containment Topic 465: If you post here, you're gay lmao

Apparently, the motive of the killer according to Utah official and police interviews is that they didn't think CK was conservative enough. Yet again more right-wing on right-wing violence.

Yes, some information has pointed to the fact that his political commentator of choice is Nick Fuentes, who is about the furthest right you can possibly be and has previously beefed with Kirk for not being far enough to the right. Look into "groyper wars" if you want more details about the confrontational history between their two fanbases.

I wonder how many people on the right will issue an apology now for immediately making comments about how dangerous and violent the left is for inciting political violence? (I do not actually wonder this. I know the answer is zero)

in another fit of politically fueled rage

I'll come back and eat crow if I'm wrong about this . Feel free to @ me when definitive news breaks.

oh no, people are responding to the bait

for what its worth i was baiting the bait!

well sir you seem downright calm

What is "this" ?

I'm not sure what your position on this incident even is or what issue you have with our current understanding of Robinson's motive.

Of course this information could all change and if it does I'll adapt to it. But I guess I really don't understand what you are accusing me of. I feel I've been more than fair in my approach to learning information before speculating wildly .

Sorry

I have this flaw where I assume someone would genuinely change their mind about something if only I could explain the situation well enough. I should know from experience by now that this is not an effective use of my time, but here we are.

There's no manifesto and it's been reported that "o bella ciao, bella ciao" was written on one of the unfired casings. While I would have had no clue what that meant before all of this, a quick google search makes it pretty obvious. None of that lines up with your theory.

There's a post one above my op in this thread that felt to the need to call the guy who just got murdered a charlatan and a fraud with no moral character.

A world full of people doing this to one another is a horrible place to live. But yeah, I guess I'm just not calm enough.

And they can decide that the percentage must be low enough that people they know who they like must not be radical.

While I would have had no clue what that meant before all of this, a quick google search makes it pretty obvious. None of that lines up with your theory.

Where was this energy a couple months back when sitting politicians were assassinated by a Christian Nationalist, and when the President of the United States said that calling the governor of the associated state "a waste of time"?

Where was this energy when somebody broke in to the then-Speaker of the House's home and assaulted her husband with a hammer while trying to find the Speaker herself?

Where was this energy when it came out that the person that shot at Donald Trump was a conservative?

Well he think our escalating left wing rhetoric is the problem so I dont see any reason to take this guy seriously.

For so many of you, your politics are your morality

• Called for Biden to receive "the death penalty for his crimes against America"

1. https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-joe-biden-should-be-put-prison-andor-given-death-penalty-crimes-against

• Advocated for televised public executions and suggested that children should be forced to watch them as "an initiation."

1. https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-death-penalty-public-executions-1873073

• Called for "Nuremberg-style trials for every gender-affirming clinic doctor."

1. https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-we-need-have-nuremberg-style-trial-every-gender-affirming-clinic-doctor

• In addition to lethal force, said we should use whips against them and saying, "Why is that controversial?"

1. https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-calls-shooting-and-whipping-migrants-southern-border-if-you-enter-we-have

• Called immigrants "an enemy occupation of the foreigner hordes" and required armed resistance

1. https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/turning-point-usa-case-study-hard-right-2024

• Wanted physical, violent confrontations with transgender athletes

1. https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-has-history-violent-and-bigoted-rhetoric-he-was-first-guest-california

• Called transgender individuals "an abomination" and "a throbbing middle finger to God"

1. https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/we-must-not-posthumously-sanitize

• Called for returning to historical persecution of LGBTQ people, "the way we used to take care of things in the 1950s and 60s"

1. https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-has-history-violent-and-bigoted-rhetoric-he-was-first-guest-california

• Called George Floyd "a scumbag"

1. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/charlie-kirk-controversies-1.7630859

• Called the Civil Rights Act "a huge mistake"

1. https://www.wired.com/story/charlie-kirk-tpusa-mlk-civil-rights-act/

• Called MLK "awful" and "not a good person."

1. https://www.wired.com/story/charlie-kirk-tpusa-mlk-civil-rights-act/

• Racial prejudice: Said, "If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"

1. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs

• Claimed the "Great Replacement" was "not a theory, it's a reality" and that Democrats are trying to "diminish and decrease white demographics in America"

1. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/mar/01/facebook-posts/undocumented-immigrants-are-not-proof-of-a-scheme/

• Said that "native born Americans are being replaced by foreigners" and that Trump would "liberate" the country from "the enemy occupation of foreigner hordes."

1. https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/turning-point-usa-case-study-hard-right-2024

• Promoted the antisemitic conspiracy of Jewish people controlling everything, saying "not just the colleges; it's the non-profits, it's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all of it"

1. https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/turning-point-usa

• Blamed racial tension on Jewish donors who were actively promoting it, saying, "The philosophical foundation of anti-whiteness has largely been funded by Jewish donors in the country."

1. https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/turning-point-usa

• Created the "Professor Watchlist" which resulted in death threats, antisemitic harassment, and more against educators

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor_Watchlist

• Launched a harassment campaign that the Arizona State University President confirmed led to antisemitic, anti-LGBTQ, and misogynistic attacks on ASU faculty

1. https://www.statepress.com/article/2023/11/turning-point-response-overview

• Attacked small-d democratic legitimacy by systematically describing Democratic governance as illegitimate

1. https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-hateful-rhetoric-connects-to-real-world-violence/

• Study by Cambridge Core researcher finding that Kirk's rhetoric contributed to the rise in offline political violence

1. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/political-science-research-and-methods/article/violent-political-rhetoric-on-twitter/8BCBD1F909A861589D93F7124AFE1A7E

"I think empathy is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage"

I'm curious how you add context to "black women lack the brain power to be taken seriously". I'll wait.

You know the strongest evidence we have that the "propaganda" is real, and Charlie Kirk was killed by a right-wing extremist? The one-day flip in reaction from prominent Republicans, going from "The left is responsible for this violent rhetoric and they started this war!" to "Tyler Robinson was a misguided young man and we need to pray for his soul."

here's no manifesto and it's been reported that "o bella ciao, bella ciao" was written on one of the unfired casings. While I would have had no clue what that meant before all of this, a quick google search makes it pretty obvious. None of that lines up with your theory.

There's no chance that a hardcore Nick Fuentes follower would room with a trans person to begin with

he may have even developed some sympathy for trans people via proximity, same way many conservative families suddenly gain a new understanding of trans people when one of their own come out. studies show conservatives have a really narrow field of empathy that doesn't care unless it hits close to them. that doesn't suddenly make him some marxist antifa super-soldier.

What is a Groyper?

What is a Groyper?

Okay I feel like I shouldn't ask at this point but I also don't want it in my algorithm if I Google it myself

What is a Groyper?

Even my chronically online ass doesn't know this one

okay so a follow-up question

who is that

...I had to look it up too...Wikipedia to the rescue.

Still no idea what owo or uwu or whatever the fuck it is means though. That one I'm not looking up.

Im pretty sure it means I like men but Im very out of touch with the rest of gen z so idk

its a cutesy anime girl thing that has been used in/co-opted by other contexts

so uh its not just gen z youre out of touch with