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Gg scum
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Told me I had to decide whether to kill him on the merits of his arguments not his role. Wouldn't reveal. Lmfao fuck lopen.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
htaeD posted...
Yeah you should either have claimed this sooner, or not at all.
Now it just sounds like killing you is all the better for us.
Perhaps.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
changmas posted...
Can you do a dead mans switch of some kind to indicate whether lopens posting the real notes
No.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
PunishedBen posted...
You gonna post a wolf picture to go along with that?
Not scum.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Between innings.

Quendra, Town Quidnapper.

Kidnapped Lopen day 1 obviously. He has been in a discord with me since. I have the option to kill him or release him. He auto releases on my death or after 3 game days. He did not reveal to me his role, but he does have some interesting theories on scum that I already labeled as Lopen ideas today. He begged me to go hard after Blade, and I did in my own way.

He has all my notes for the game up to now. Whether scum or town, I don't know. Just know he wants Blade dead ASAP. If he is town, he will reveal my notes. If scum, might be bullshit.

So you don't lose a player. Good luck, guys. Sorry. I was town though. = /
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Kirby321 posted...
Fuck off
You did this to yourself
Sure I did quirby
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
ctesjbuvf posted...
Watch Corrik not say anything because votals were not maintained lol.
If I am gonna be lynched, you will lie in the bed you made. I just want you to know what it is and what yinz did to yourselves.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Forceful_Dragon posted...
Will there be an audio/visual component?
No
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
If this maintains and I don't get distracted by my kids baseball game stream, I will have a confession at 5 mins til.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
There is scum in this three. As it got close and the scum was in danger, the votes started scurrying fast.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Getting a shower and going to work. Think I'm not gonna vote today and let yinz handle things. Maybe I'll change my mind when I get to work around 540.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
htaeD posted...
FD gets a pass for forcing out Knightz' terrible flavor paraphrase.

Ben has been alright. Though he posted less today.
I should probably read a lot of the knightz stuff at some post. = /

I read the beginning of it and it looked like Taco just tunneled him and he was whining his friend was doing this to him yet again and got flustered.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
FD as well.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Does anyone think Ben looks good? I think he has flown under the radar big time also.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Forgot hammerer for igcd

I'm thinking 4-6 vanillas tops.

If peaf is legit we are alrdy up to 3.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
I know balance is hard right now.

But we have flips of
Vanilla
????

Vs

Roleblocking Rolecop (insinuates roles to scan)
Doppelganger Framer (insinuates watcher/tracker)

Peaf has claimed Vanilla
I am Vanilla
Kirby Jailkeeper
Mzero Taunter
Ulti some bullshit op claim
Blade action
Chang take over the day and kill people shit

Presumably a votestealer or something for scum
Presumably a kidnapper for scum

The question is based on scum we seen flip... how many Vanilla are we really expecting to see here.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Meow1000 posted...
That specifically is what's making me most paranoid about Corrik
If you feel I am scum, who do you think I cannot be scum with?
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
UltimaterializerX posted...
Peaf being nice is another scum tell of his.
Perhaps it is but my question is why? He could have just not posted at all.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
UltimaterializerX posted...
Ill say this.

My #1 scum tell on Peaf is sacrificing himself during the day phase and hes pinged that one many, many times.
The problem I have is that peaf is usually hostile towards me in Mafia due to politics stuff outside of it. But, he has been much nicer lately. And been scum a lot. However, if he wasn't nice today yinz were full steamboat ahead to kill me yesterday early. So, the question is why? As scum.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
htaeD posted...
Actually Corrik himself may have stated why he would choose you
So he could say "Blade would never claim power to counter a roleblock accusation."

Then again that could apply to many players
I wanted to see if he flustered. It was a bad choice all things considered. Ironically, I almost claimed it against wallz. Imagine how funny that would have went down. But, I decided I didn't really like blades comments on knightz towards the end.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
UltimaterializerX posted...
Stay the course. You keep forgetting I have my ways.

You worried Corrik will flip town and we kill you tomorrow bro?
This is a weird post. Just to be clear. Looks like setting up lynches with knowing I am town.

That said, I am torn on what to do. Peaf is who I think is the most logical lynch based on votals, but he has really stuck his neck out for me too. It seems so dirty to repay it with his head. I do think red doesn't look too great either, but he isn't really where I would normally go today I believe. It's more a I'd feel pretty bad if peaf is town after he had faith in me.

I kinda feel like maybe you should all just mislynch me and get it over with. It's a mislynch. It's not optimal to take a mislynch, but scum is going to hide the rest of the game behind trying to mislynch me if it doesn't happen today to distract the game. They tried mightily to keep it fixated on me today or even end the day early. And by they I don't even necessarily mean scum as Kirby is probably town and he has been incessant regarding it. But scum is going to use that to coast behind all game.

So maybe it's playing to win today for me to just say let me die.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
BTW that's /s. For those at home.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
UltimaterializerX posted...
Even if he flips town, we get info number one, and number two it would start the rule 1 timer on our mutual friend over there. I dont think he flips town tho.

There is recent precedent here for Corrik as vanilla getting mislynched and this isnt it.
You could just town confirm me tonight. Wouldn't the info be there regardless?
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Leafeon13N posted...
The desth flip flop os literally completely made up by peaf. It is not something that actually happened.
What actually happened
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
PeaceFrog posted...
T6p2 - Corrik/ Blade standoff starts, red "can't tell who is joking or being serious". Pretty neutral way to respond to it. Elaborates by saying "idk what to think".
The death flip flop you pointed out is weird. But again, if me and Blade are both town. Scum would know we are both town here and think it's likely.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
htaeD posted...
See I feel like you consistently talk around my posts. In the past that is. Yet you focus a lot on Ctes', despite already calling him town.
Part of me does think this is just you trying to teach players a lesson for after your lynch, but its still odd.
I'm concerned that Ctes if town is being manipulated. If ulti or you are scum, he won't even consider you because ulti says he is town without even a real claim. Is he gonna continue to be paralyzed tomorrow if ulti says tomorrow red or peaf or whoever is town if ulti simply says so and continues saying he confirms it.

It's bad play to just buy everything someone says just because you agree with the assessment. Can't wait for 4 mislynches to be like ohhh maybe he isn't town and all the stuff he fed me is bs. Or maybe he assumed his role was golden and he hit something that circumvent his role.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
htaeD posted...
Corrik I may have lost track of your supposed train of thought, but what do you even think of me and Ctes?
Ctes town.

You I don't know.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
ctesjbuvf posted...
I said he probably is. If Ulti has a scan on him in some way, then it's probably right yes.
So then yes. You think death is simply town because ulti simply has said you are town. You have no analysis of the player slot nor intend to do any, including on Ulti, simply because Ulti has proclaimed you town.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
ctesjbuvf posted...
Not really odd. I think Ulti is town, I know for a fact he would scan me night 1 based on last game so I assumed he probably scanned me in some way. Ulti may or may not pull some mind games to some degree idk, but my best guess is some truth in there and I haven't felt any reason to question it so far.
So you think death is town then simply because ulti said you are?
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
ctesjbuvf posted...
I really do wish I was mason recruited.
Do you find it odd ulti has claimed you are town confirmed?
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
ctesjbuvf posted...
Well he also said that I was town unless perfect scum game, which I didn't know if I should be happy or not about lol
I forgot about that but yeah your comments come from a town mindset.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
UltimaterializerX posted...
MZero are you willing to share what you do?
Just imagine this dude actually claimed already, but I'm glad he is keeping ulti in the dark purposely to annoy you!
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Like town reads it and is like Blade or corrik could be scum so maybe distrust me or distrust blade. Scum knows both are town in the scenario.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Gotta remember tho. If Blade is town with me. Scum didn't know that wasn't real at first.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
They actually probably have a 6th in that lopen theory. Damn. One escapes me.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Like my Lopen theory is

Lopen is scum. Scum kidnapped their own member who returns if the scum who kidnapped him is killed. Thus looking like town kidnapped. Scum wasn't roleblocked night 1 but used their kidnap instead of the nightkill. Blade is scum. Kirby is scum. Blade told Kirby to claim the jailkeeper to get me off of him and to say he targeted wallz. Try to lynch me first or wallz to confirm Kirby as town. Then kill me. Blade look confirmed anyways with Kirby. With Lopen still in the back pocket to come back if Blade got caught.

Scum team Wallz, Knightz, Blade, Kirby, Lopen.

That's my Lopen theory. Just unlike Lopen, I know it's kinda... dumb.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Meow1000 posted...
So many lunatics seem to have this theory that this is the greatest performance of scum theater ever recorded in Mafia though
We always put those theories characterized under the Lopen label so people know those theories are unlikely and are just wildest possibilities.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Meow1000 posted...
How does Corrik's flip have any bearing on me at all when Corrik openly admitted he's been lying about everything regarding me
If I would flip scum, you are obviously town.

However, it's nulltell once I flip town. So gained nothing.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
##unvote
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Meow1000 posted...
Yep. To quote myself, you felt like "No nonsense town with a hint of genuine annoyance".
Only role that would make sense is one in which he could recruit masons but he dies if he chooses scum. But, it wouldn't be beyond reproach to a godfather.

But, obviously he isn't actually that so we know what he really is if town.

Needless to say, Death and ctes are not confirmed anything.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Corrik7 posted...
I'll have to look for it.
Blade says death "probably just town" tier below the basically locked town tier.

Also ulti says this day 3 opening.

UltimaterializerX posted...
Him and ctes are my two biggest town reads.


Him is death. So these are just simply reads.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
htaeD posted...
Blade said the same.
But in the interest of fairness I will say I was only slightly surprised and concerned that people were calling me confirmed town as soon as day3 started.
I'll have to look for it.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Forceful_Dragon posted...
The implication seems to be that ulti has a scan that is above reproach and somehow immune to godfather fear. And I was fine to let him play his mind games before he started insisting even more aggressively that we should be considering ctes and death confirmed base only on his non elaborate say-so.

If it's not legit then he's giving two people a pass for no reason and just generally putting unnecessary chaos into the day. If it is legit then we feel far enough ahead that I don't see much downside to having our with it.
Agreed but Ulti has a weird idea of what town confirmed is. For all we know, he realized they had the letter e in their name each night and that's confirmed town if he don't say so himself.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Obellisk posted...
Kirby, what's your current best running theory? How many in the scum team?

I'd like to use your thoughts as I go skim back through to see if I get the same vibes.
Has to be 5. Unless Lopen is scum and returns a later day after the scum that took him returns or if town made the shot. Then it could be 6. Scum having an extra kill with 6 is impossible.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
htaeD posted...
Ulti was not the only one to call me town either, Corrik.
Go on
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
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Forceful_Dragon posted...
Tbh I still have no confidence in reading you in either direction. I lynched you last game as scum but that was entirely based on a meticulously narrowed poe and not because I'd caught you for any specific reason.

With that in mind a proper confirmation of your alignment would honestly be welcome, but Ulti's word can't exactly be trusted.
There isn't even any line of reasoning for why the people supposedly "confirmed" are the ones "confirmed" either. No reason to think either of them is by any stretch. Nor that Ulti is anything he says he is.

That's why Ulti and Death being up there with Peaf and Sbell on likeliest scum based on purely day 1 votals isn't incorrect. There is no well if ulti is town death has to be also. Nothing suggests that besides the word of someone who claims themselves town confirmed day 1 every game no matter their alignment. Ulti could be town and death scum easily.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
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htaeD posted...
Ulti has been boasting about having power since day1.

He's lying as town to bait a shot, or truthful to make scum think the other way around.

Or he is just scum acting like a town Ulti does sometimes.
It makes no sense to not claim and clear up the game at the point he has gone unless he is lying and is afraid of being countered as either scum or lying town not trying to out something real by town itself.

Thus, I hold no weight on the clears.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
UltimaterializerX posted...
I would berate him privately and tell him to stop fucking posting in hopes he could go afk and live. I know how B8 works.

People can sus me all they want. All I care about is protection keeping me alive and letting me move at night. Town literally cannot lose if I keep going.
Let me ask you this. The roleblocker is dead. So you can't be blocked by scum. You have already claimed to confirm people and targets and that you move and that you need protected beyond reproach. Why exactly are you not just claiming at this point? There is zero reason not to because it doesn't change how much protection protects you or not.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
MZero posted...
definitely wasn't me lol
You assume your predecessors stuff.
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